OK so you'll be investigating how your petrol is produced too? Seems only reasonable since your holding Electricity to that standard. Could it be though you are simply searching for reasons to justify a course of action, that you have aready decided on?

Let's say the Electricity is generated by Solar PV. Are you then going to demand to know how the panels are made? The names of the installers? What they had for lunch the day they were installed? The makes of the wrist***ches they were wearing at the time.

Sounds very reasonable...

Well said.

Yes, but you are really calculating mp£ (from what you spend) and converting that into mpg on the basis of petrol prices. Takes no account of how your electricity was generated - which you can only guess at !

So you are not happy with MPG or MP£, how about £'s per trip? That in reality seems odd since your original post is about what wonderful MPG's your Peugeot does.

Went to Tesco yesterday morning, about 12 miles.

Set off with 36 miles of charge and when we got back home we had 24 miles left. That is pretty normal. So since a full charge costs about £1.14 and we used 12/36 of the battery we used £0.38 of electric.

With the previous ICE Superb we would do about 40 mpg on that trip so 12 miles would be 0.3 gallons. With petrol at Tesco costing £1.489 a litre (£6.77 a gallon) the same 12 miles would cost us £2.03.

I have no idea how the petrol is produced or where the crude that its refined from originates. All I know about the electricity is I get it in a cable.

What I do know is the cost to go to Tesco on electric is way less than using petrol.

We are off to Scotland in a couple of weeks, about 430 miles door to door. In the ICE Superb at todays prices and 52 mpg the trip would have cost us £55.97 in fuel. In the PHEV setting off with a full battery and petrol doing about 58 mpg the trip will cost us about £51.32.

In reality all that proves (as we all know) PHEV's are of greater benefit in town.

Edited by skidpan on 02/09/2023 at 13:23

A couple of questions about the Superb PHEV - is there any improvement on a long journey by using inbuilt navigation (assuming it has it?)? Stellantis PHEV’s will make better use of the battery if they know what the destination is - ie you’ve programmed the navigation. Which cables do you have - just a 3 pin to Type 2, or a Type 2 to Type 2?

Rarely use the Sat Nav (never have done in any car, prefer to get Waze out when needed). I know where I am going and I am quite capable of planning a route.

It has the granny cable (3 pin to Type 2) and Type 2 to type 2.

Could it be though you are simply searching for reasons to justify a course of action, that you have already decided on?

No - what do you think that might be ? And why ?

I am only querying the scientific reasoning in quoting a consumption in mpg, when 'gallons or litres' of actual fuel may have contributed very little to the journeys being touted. I may reasonably assume that the cost of producing any petrol I use has been included in the pump price, plus quite a bit of tax. 'Fuelling' a car by plugging it into the mains is relatively imponderable, I suggest.

'Fuelling' a car by plugging it into the mains is relatively imponderable, I suggest.

No its not. have you not read my post above? I get the kw used to charge the car from the 1/2 readings on the web app.

It a modern version of "reading the meter".

Agreed the energy consumed is easily determined. In my example the car actually tells you you've done 4.9m per kwh that equates to 204 watts per mile. Which if I say so myself is flippin awesome. Its a matter of simple maths to get the equivalent amount of petrol, as petrol has,a known amount of energy per gallon.

Oh and Andrew..Canadian Gold, his name was Gary , it was a Monday and iirc Timex but didn't get the model number. ;)