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SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - FiestaOwner

I have a 2019 SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSI. It’s coming up for 60,000 miles (44 months old) and just about due a major service.

Up until now it’s been dealer serviced. I’m thinking of keeping it another couple of years (30,000 miles) until trading it in.

I’m not particularly impressed with the dealer, and I'm thinking about getting it serviced by either a VW specialist or a local indie with a good reputation (but not a VW specialist).

Does anyone think that the car would be worth less at trade in time, without a full main dealer service history? Would still have a full service history, but the last 2 or 3 wouldn’t be main dealer.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - Adampr

It wouldn't matter much to me and presumably most private buyers would feel the same. It may have an effect on trade-in price with a franchised dealer, but I don't think they'd be paying top dollar for it anyway.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - daveyK_UK
If it still had or had just ran out of manufacturer warranty when you sold it, it would matter.

But by the time you sell the Ibiza it will be well out of manufacturer warranty and just having a service history is a bonus.

I will give you an example

My friend sold their Seat Toledo owned from new on a 13 plate last month with full Seat main dealer service history, they got the same £2k offer if they provided all the receipts or didn’t, the dealer didn’t care and it didn’t alter the part ex price once bit.

Now a different guy who sold his 5 year old Kia Cee’d which only had its first service at Kia and the rest at the same Halford auto centre.
The Kia dealer he was going to part ex with offered him £400 less when they discovered the lack of Kia servicing.
While they could sell the car with a Kia used warranty, they couldn’t sell it with the manufacturer warranty as it wouldn’t be honoured by Kia.
He ended up selling it to we buy any car who didn’t penalise him but did pay £280 less than the Kia dealer offered including admin fee.

So unless you own a Kia, MG, Suzuki or Toyota all of which have long warranty’s, I would not bother with main dealer once the manufacturer warranty has ran out unless you have a specialist car or highly prestigious car like a Lamborghini.

However despite all of that, sometimes the main dealers have offers on servicing so it’s worth finding out. My local Ford dealer were doing a minor service on any car upto 2.0l for £120 during June.
My mate took his Fiesta along and as part of the service he got them to update the cars software which is handy,

Edited by daveyK_UK on 19/08/2023 at 21:08

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - FiestaOwner
If it still had or had just ran out of manufacturer warranty when you sold it, it would matter.

But by the time you sell the Ibiza it will be well out of manufacturer warranty and just having a service history is a bonus.

Thanks. Pretty much what I was thinking too.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - Andrew-T
My friend sold their Seat Toledo owned from new on a 13 plate last month with full Seat main dealer service history, they got the same £2k offer if they provided all the receipts or didn’t, the dealer didn’t care and it didn’t alter the part ex price once bit.,

Trading-in a 10-year-old car, most dealers are just doing you a favour, and I would guess any service history you handed over would go in the bin. Selling privately though, it would probably make a big difference, not so much to the value but to the saleability.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - FiestaOwner

It wouldn't matter much to me and presumably most private buyers would feel the same. It may have an effect on trade-in price with a franchised dealer, but I don't think they'd be paying top dollar for it anyway.

Thanks. I was also thinking that a franchised dealer would be unlikely to be selling a car of that mileage themselves (and would be selling it to the trade or auctioning it).

Edited by FiestaOwner on 20/08/2023 at 08:09

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - SLO76
I’d use the local VW specialist. These guys (should) know these cars inside out and a socialist stamp on a car of this age and mileage will mean as much as the main dealers but it’ll cost less. I used a trusted VW specialist to service our VW Polo 1.2 TDi and they did a great job.
SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - FiestaOwner
I’d use the local VW specialist. These guys (should) know these cars inside out and a socialist stamp on a car of this age and mileage will mean as much as the main dealers but it’ll cost less. I used a trusted VW specialist to service our VW Polo 1.2 TDi and they did a great job.

Not sure a SOCIALIST stamp would help :-)

Will probably go the specialist route. Thanks.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - SLO76
“ Not sure a SOCIALIST stamp would help :-)

Will probably go the specialist route. Thanks.”


Ha! Well seen my predictive text is geared up for a bit of political debate elsewhere. That said, a good commie spanner monkey can fix owt.
SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - FiestaOwner
“ Not sure a SOCIALIST stamp would help :-) Will probably go the specialist route. Thanks.” Ha! Well seen my predictive text is geared up for a bit of political debate elsewhere. That said, a good commie spanner monkey can fix owt.

:-)

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - John F

A six year old car with an above average six figure mileage will have lost most of its value . At trade-in a dealer will suck his teeth, point out all the scratches and offer you peanuts for it. However, this is just the sort of car which would appeal to a low mileage driver on a limited budget. Whether or not the last few services have been at the main dealer, an indy or even by yourself would be irrelevant to someone like me as long as there was evidence that the oil had been changed every 10,000 miles. At your 15,000 miles a year it's a fair assumption that most of those miles have been on smooth fast A and M roads with a well warmed engine in mostly top gear, the easiest life in motion a car can have.

If I was poor and only did around 5000 miles a year this is just the sort of car I would be looking at, as it would be a reasonably safe bet that it would go from 100,000 to 125,000 in the next five years with minimal depreciation and repair cost. If it were mine I would sell it privately, unless there was some clever business financial write down valuation exercise which might be more beneficial.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - FiestaOwner

A six year old car with an above average six figure mileage will have lost most of its value. At trade-in a dealer will suck his teeth, point out all the scratches and offer you peanuts for it.

That's my thinking too.

However, this is just the sort of car which would appeal to a low mileage driver on a limited budget. Whether or not the last few services have been at the main dealer, an indy or even by yourself would be irrelevant to someone like me as long as there was evidence that the oil had been changed every 10,000 miles. At your 15,000 miles a year it's a fair assumption that most of those miles have been on smooth fast A and M roads with a well warmed engine in mostly top gear, the easiest life in motion a car can have.

You're spot on there. It does a 27 mile commute each way, 5 days a week. On "A" roads sitting at no more than 2000 revs.

If I was poor and only did around 5000 miles a year this is just the sort of car I would be looking at, as it would be a reasonably safe bet that it would go from 100,000 to 125,000 in the next five years with minimal depreciation and repair cost. If it were mine I would sell it privately, unless there was some clever business financial write down valuation exercise which might be more beneficial.

Do tend to get rid of my cars through the trade. That way, I don't have any issues with tyre kickers. Would consider selling to WBAC. However, it's just easier to trade it in.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - Andrew-T
.... a socialist stamp on a car of this age and mileage ...

That's a nice idea SLO !! :-)

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - SLO76
.... a socialist stamp on a car of this age and mileage ...

That's a nice idea SLO !! :-)

:-) All very fashionable among some.
SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - barney100

I never do dealer servicing, my local indie does a great job for well half the dealer price. Obviously the dealers overhead push the costs up but the work is no better.

SEAT Ibiza 1.0 TSi - Main Dealer, Specialist or Indie service - mickyh7

However despite all of that, sometimes the main dealers have offers on servicing so it’s worth finding out. My local Ford dealer were doing a minor service on any car upto 2.0l for £120 during June.
My mate took his Fiesta along and as part of the service he got them to update the cars software which is handy,

So £120 for 4 litres of oil and 2 filters!

Quick check all of the lights work.

40 minutes of the apprentices time

No Main Dealers do anyone a good deal.

Software update is unusual, but just plugged in to the OBD port and done automatically, whilst they do other jobs.

Guaranteed factory recommendation for the software or they would definitely charge!