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Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - Car3

There are a lot of comments online, but it seems that when you dig down a lot of comments praising Kia are about the style, features, and honeymoon period. There's very little about what they're like after 100,000 miles. Similarly a lot of the criticism is about the cars is from ten to twenty years ago. There's not a lot about the reliability or longevity of newer cars, and I haven't found much at all about which engines and transmissons are best, which tells me many of the comments are likely to be poorly informed.

Scotty Kilmer thinks the engines and transmissions will fail quickly, but he often contracts himself in different videos.

Car Wizard doesn't seem to have done many videos on Kia or Hyunda. The one Hyundai video I found is about a poorly maintained 2016 model that needs a new engine.

I thought this forum might be a place to hear some informed opinions.

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - Metropolis.
As far as I can tell, the usual weak points on Kia/Hyundai are clutches and rust.

It is an interesting point that we do not see many older korean cars, are they all dying or is it more because they are being exported?

Scotty Kilmer does not rate them at all.
Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - iFocus
I had a 2007 Kia Cee’d that I sold with 140,000 on the clock at 12 years old. No rust and no engine or gearbox issues at all.

Currently have a 2012 Cee’d with 70k on it again no rust or anything to report in terms of engine etc.

My dad has a 59 i20 and again zero rust or anything either. I’d say on my experience they last and generally don’t cause much grief for the owner!
Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - alan1302

Scotty Kilmer thinks the engines and transmissions will fail quickly, but he often contracts himself in different videos.

Are the US engines even the same as here?

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - SLO76

My experience from selling older examples (mostly simple 2wd petrol engined examples) is that they’re pretty robust mechanically, but up here in Scotland with our iced up salt covered winter roads they tent to rot underneath more rapidly than rivals. I rarely had any mechanical trouble with them. Clutches were a bit weaker than average, but they’re not expensive to replace with decent aftermarket parts. DPF equipped diesels can suffer the usual emissions control issues most modern diesels encounter and I’m still not confident in their DCT transmissions, no one else has made it right not even Honda or Toyota.

The warranties on newer examples are excellent for a reason, they are very robust. But many people buy them because they’re typically cheaper than more mainstream rivals and many neglect to maintain the main dealer service history that’s vital to preserve that warranty. I’ve viewed many cars for other people at dealers who incorrectly boast that the car has the remainder of the manufacturer warranty despite having little or no service record, sadly people fall for this and drive off in a car with no cover at all as the selling dealer won’t add his own cover. Kia and Hyundai dealers are fierce about demanding full dealer records before covering any warranty work, a non franchise dealer history would need to verify that every part of the manufacturer service record had been adhered to and manufacturer parts used, this is almost certainly not going to happen without that dealer stamp in the book.

Would I buy a Kia or Hyundai? Yes, I would. But I’d leave the DPF equipped diesels or DCT autos out of warranty. A good 3yr old Kia with full dealer history makes a heap of sense if you have a local dealer and you’re going to preserve the remainder of that 7yr 100k warranty.

Edited by SLO76 on 10/08/2023 at 22:40

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - sammy1

I don't think that there are any poor motors being made today. It is all about personal choice and what you can afford. Diesels are out for most, small turbos are in and of course EVs and hybrids. What ever you choose double check your research and test drive a few choices. Expensive mistake if you choose the wrong one. For me it is German makes good quality and engineering.

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - edlithgow

" I don't think that there are any poor motors being made today. "

Then you havn't been paying attention.

" For me it is German makes good quality and engineering."

Prince engined BMW neo-mini? (Just an example).

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - sammy1

" I don't think that there are any poor motors being made today. "

Then you havn't been paying attention.

" For me it is German makes good quality and engineering."

Prince engined BMW neo-mini? (Just an example).

I would hardly describe the Prince engine as todays. And in any case the engine had as much to do with PEUGEOT so I reckon BMW made I mistake teaming up with the makers of such fine more modern engines as the 1.2 wet belt rubbish.

If I paid attention to the relatively few ""experts" on here I would be brain dead. The same OLD reasoning keeps coming up including the DSG gearbox which from my own personal is a very good unit. It is a shame to have an opinion with out direct personal knocks. As to you own engineering experiences you put on here I find some of them embarrassing to read

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - edlithgow

" I don't think that there are any poor motors being made today. "

Then you havn't been paying attention.

" For me it is German makes good quality and engineering."

Prince engined BMW neo-mini? (Just an example).

I would hardly describe the Prince engine as todays.


I believe the Ford 1L Ecoboost is still in production (?), so perhaps that would qualify as a "poor motor being made today"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yx1-50iqnA

Strictly speaking, I suppose its true that we can't know absolutely that any engine / motor being made today is "poor", because, by definition, there hasn't been time to find out.

I know which way I'd bet, though, based on recent track records.

Land Rover Discovery's snapping crankshafts come to mind,(as well as the BIO examples already mentioned, including, with rather puzzling inconsistency, by you) but I'd think a trawl of this forum, or the Internyet, would come up with plenty of other recent examples

Edited by edlithgow on 13/08/2023 at 01:23

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - madf

" For me it is German makes good quality and engineering."

I take it you are joking.

BMW's first volume EV was full of quality issues: engines failing around 100k miles, electronics failing randomly .. and HUGE think £8-£10k repair costs,

There are good reasons for ALL German cars not being anywhere near the top of reliability tables: their quality control of themselves and suppliers is sadly lacking,

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - sammy1

" For me it is German makes good quality and engineering."

I take it you are joking.

BMW's first volume EV was full of quality issues: engines failing around 100k miles, electronics failing randomly .. and HUGE think £8-£10k repair costs,

There are good reasons for ALL German cars not being anywhere near the top of reliability tables: their quality control of themselves and suppliers is sadly lacking,

Shame to have a different opinion. I have owned 3 5series and several of the new now German MINI and had Zero problems with any of them In fact through my whole motoring life the worse problem I had and that was not due to quality but clutch wear on a Viva. A lot of people just do not treat their cars with respect

As to EVs well the tech is new to all makes and problems are documented for all if you go looking. By one of these yet I do not think so could be near worthless after only a short life.

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - movilogo

German makes good quality and engineering

Yes, may be 20 years back

At the moment, Japan & Korean makes good quality and engineering

www.marklines.com/en/statistics/flash_sales/automo...h

Just check where Kia has climbed up to

Kia Sportage - Longevity of new Kia engines/transmissons? - daveyK_UK
Kia engines are normally decent if some what not class leaders.

A good example is the 1.25 engine, bulletproof reliability but nothing special in terms of mpg or power.