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To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - thesoupdragon

I am looking to change my car but cant decide what is best to go for.

I have about £12500 to spend.

Would like an automatic.

I need a good sized boot space, low lip if possible but not totally essential need a good 100cm front to back if possible.

I will keep this for 3 or 4 years and do 15 to 20K per annum.

My daily trip to work is about 2 miles each way but my trips around the country can see me do 1000 miles plus in a week.

I was thinking a diesel would be best but I do a lot of short journeys so suggestions much appreciated.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - badbusdriver

Toyota Auris hybrid Touring?. Good for the short journeys and, so long as can accept the performance limitations, good for long distances too.

According to the RiDC, boot length with rear seats in place is 1049mm.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - sammy1

Has to be a Skoda Octavia for me. !.4 DSG You can find the same set up in Audi/VW group with the same mechanicals. I doubt your budget will reach to the later 1.5 but very good also and both economical engines

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - thesoupdragon

Interesting thanks for that. I hadn't even thought about a hybrid but now I'm reading some stuff I may have to try and up my budget. I was just looking at Kia Ceed estate 4 years old with 3 years left on its warranty and a phev, so my journeys to work could be on electric.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - Steveieb

I am quite pleased with my W211 MB E320 D.

loads of space , great fuel economy from a silky smooth V6 engine and being 2007 has not a lot of emissions stuff.

The rear seats are slightly higher than the front seats which makes a journey much nicer for the back seat passengers.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - DavidGlos
You’ve already had the Skoda Octavia suggested. Can add the Seat Leon and VW Golf to the same list. Take your pick from TSI petrol or TDI diesels. Both available with an auto box.
To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - Adampr
You’ve already had the Skoda Octavia suggested. Can add the Seat Leon and VW Golf to the same list. Take your pick from TSI petrol or TDI diesels. Both available with an auto box.

The usual caveat applies; those cars all use the VW DSG transmission, which can have problems in used cars. I have one, in a Skoda I bought used, and it's fine but worth mentioning the concern.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - thesoupdragon

Will lots of very short journeys in a diesel cause issues?

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - Adampr

Will lots of very short journeys in a diesel cause issues?

Yes. If your long journeys are regular (say, weekly) it's probably OK. Bear in mind, too, that diesels are increasingly difficult or expensive to drive in cities.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - SLO76
If you absolutely must have an auto then this limits your reliable options somewhat. Diesel is out of the question as the only reliable DPF equipped diesel is really not available as an auto unless you want a large SUV body and 4wd transmission - Honda 1.6 DTEC. This engine in the Civic Estate is a great option.

In your shoes I’d shortlist the Toyota Auris Hybrid, though I’d be tempted to find more money to get the much more modern Corolla Hybrid Estate instead. Either will be reliable and economical plus the taxi trade lap them up so resale will be easy.

Next I’d look at the Mazda 6 2.0 Skyactiv petrol Estate. These are very robust, great to drive, and not too bad on fuel for a large petrol estate with an automatic box.

I’d leave out anything with the fragile VAG DSG or Ford Powershift automated manual gearboxes. Both have a terrible reputation for failures out of warranty term and they’re costly and complex to fix, usually failure means the car is a write-off. I wouldn’t risk it.
To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - thesoupdragon

What about a Kia Ceed estate sems like a decent sized booth and they have a 7 year warranty

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - Adampr

What about a Kia Ceed estate sems like a decent sized booth and they have a 7 year warranty

Nothing Much wrong with them. Just test drive it first as some people like Kias and others don't.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - barney100

Volvo V70 2.4 d for me. Mine’s done 182k with every type of driving over the eight years we’ve had it, it had 50 k on it at 7 years old when I bought it. Economical, roomy, comfortable and cruises all day and swallows loads.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - JonestHon

Your budget can get you in a Civic Tourer, if you do the miles the diesels are good bet but no auto option. The petrol has a standard fluid coupled auto mated to a naturally aspired 1.8 pushing out 142 horses.

To me the petrol configuration sound like something that will last well.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - expat

Don't touch a secondhand diesel unless you know the history. It could be up for very expensive repairs which is why the previous owner sold it. Also when you come to sell it on it will be worth very little because people do not want to take a chance with a diesel.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - thesoupdragon

So have seen a 4 year old Ceed just under 60K on the clock. It has a Kia service in the log at 58K but the salesman cant tell me if the other services were at Kia garages. Im thinking then that the 7 year warranty might look in doubt on this car.

To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - daveyK_UK
A Toyota Auris or Toyota Corolla

Not sure you can get a Corolla estate for £12.5k but may be worth paying extra for one

Excellent cars
To Be Decided - Which Estate Car - Heidfirst

if you can find one for sale & are OK with it being at least 5 years old then you might also consider a Toyota Avensis 1.8 M-drive S - this is a petrol CVT but was HonestJohn's favourite version of the Avensis. Achieves almost manual mpg (~40 average depending upon your journey profiles) & the CVT is very reliable. Can be kept in Toyota warranty up until 10 years/100,000 miles with a Toyota dealer service.

Your daily work drives of 2 miles aren't going to see a diesel achieve normal operating temp.