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Rust alert! - Sheffordian20

How long before these are rust buckets?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkfJAabXI_g

Rust alert! - Bromptonaut

Unless the cars are parked there all the time I don't think much harm will be done. Soon by washed clean by rain etc. Whether door and body etc seals keep the sea out or whether it's going to be bad enough for cars to be moved by crashing waves is a different question.

The lads in the film are having a whale of a time.

Folks need to be careful larking around with crashing seas. Risk of being dragged in under fences etc but the way that's draining looks OK; drains too small for an adult to get through.

We used to play 'dodge the waves' at Scarborough in the sixties. Later they closed the Royal Albert/Marine Drives in heavy weather after people were washed in and drowned.

Rust alert! - bazza

I dont think I'd be buying any of those in a hurry! All that salt water inside the chassis box sections and doors, into the suspension and chassis rails, no thanks! Although a good pressure wash and remedial protection would probably do wonders.

Rust alert! - Bromptonaut

I dont think I'd be buying any of those in a hurry! All that salt water inside the chassis box sections and doors, into the suspension and chassis rails, no thanks! Although a good pressure wash and remedial protection would probably do wonders.

But how, effectively, is all that sea water getting in those places?

If it gets in there won't it be washed out in heavy rain?

Rust alert! - bazza

Well I guess heavy rain and driving in heavy rain will wash the surfaces but in the video the cars are having a real hammering off those waves and I can't help thinking that salt water would get into the box sections underneath through the drain holes and openings. I've been underneath many cars and none of them take very well to salt spray after a few years! Particularly the suspension components!

Rust alert! - SLO76

The old salt water causes a fair bit of damage to cars, I live on the west coast of Scotland and trust me you don’t want to be buying a car that’s spent too much of its life up here. I’ve seen modern Hyundai’s and Kia’s with terminal rot underneath at 6/7yrs old and Mazda MX5’s you could poke holes in with you finger by the same age. All thanks to the salty sea air and the abundance of road salt used on our roads in winter.

Rust alert! - edlithgow

Here in Taiwan, despite the complete lack of road salting, you do get the odd rust bucket, which can be structural in extreme cases.

Surface rusting (in the rare old car) may be down to solar paint erosion and the spectacular levels of air pollution, but the structural cases are probably mostly down to the sustained high pressure salt wash that a coastal car will get in a typhoon, plus the odd beach excursion.

My car was previously owned by a surfer, and has suffered accordingly, Since I took it over, I've slowed the rust right down, so its structurally mostly intact, but the previous owners had done nothing about it, while dealer servicing it by the book.

People are strange..

Rust alert! - John F

Perhaps a good place to warn owners who think their cars are all aluminium. Some have steel subframes which might need attention if they haven't been maintained. Seaside owners of early Aston Martins DB9s and Jaguar XFs are potentially facing big bills.

Rust alert! - Big John

Perhaps a good place to warn owners who think their cars are all aluminium. Some have steel subframes which might need attention if they haven't been maintained. Seaside owners of early Aston Martins DB9s and Jaguar XFs are potentially facing big bills.

Good point re subframes - although it's not just aluminium bodied cars that can be affected. I've had many a Skoda that with one exception(my MK 1 Superb) have been remarkedly rust resistant with the galvanised body however the front subframe, bolt on crossmembers and suspension parts/axles/spring cups are not galvanised so could eventually rot through although the metal is usually thick.

Less rust resistant is our Fiat Panda, yes the metal is galvanised but they can rust where parts have been welded together during manufacture. They also have a few built in rust traps (eg inner front inner wing where brake pipes pass through body into engine bay - open cavity fills with crud, inside wheel arch where fuel filler is, trapped water in rear jacking point just inside body from the rear of the sills - remove rubber bung and rust proof thoroughly). Saying that it's still looking remarkedly good at 17 years old - compared to my first car which was a Vauxhall Viva bought at 9 years old for £50 with a few months MOT that was rotten in parts(inner wings, sills). I suppose I soon learnt how to weld!

Edited by Big John on 07/08/2023 at 21:12

Rust alert! - groaver

I’ve seen modern Hyundai’s and Kia’s with terminal rot underneath at 6/7yrs old and Mazda MX5’s you could poke holes in with you finger by the same age. All thanks to the salty sea air and the abundance of road salt used on our roads in winter.

The chap who treated my MX-5 stated he had seen brand new MX-5s with surface corrosion already apparent when they came for treatment.

He said Mazdas were just about the worst for corrosion protection by the manufacturer that he had witnessed.

He could be using a sales pitch but I was already committed to the treatment at that point.

Rust alert! - John F

The chap who treated my MX-5 stated he had seen brand new MX-5s with surface corrosion already apparent when they came for treatment

They should have 'Ziebarted' them. My 43yr old TR7 has seen many MX-5s come and go....come and go........I wonder how many 1st generation UK specimens are left?

Rust alert! - Andrew-T

The chap who treated my MX-5 stated he had seen brand new MX-5s with surface corrosion already apparent when they came for treatment

They should have 'Ziebarted' them. My 43yr old TR7 has seen many MX-5s come and go....come and go........I wonder how many 1st generation UK specimens are left?

I think the point is that the makers should have Ziebarted them - or equivalent ? And/or designed out any rust traps.

Rust alert! - Engineer Andy

If I was the bloke in that video (what a berk, IMHO) I'd be far more concerned at the sea water coming over the sea wall in significant amounts, enough to move that BMW and take out his lower half pinned to the other wall directly behind him.