EVs in China

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Mon 3 Jul 2023 12:14
EVs in China - galileo

China is producing many thousands of EVs but not selling them. The makers keep producing them to keep receiving subsidies but there are not enough buyers, so they park them up.

This YouTube clip explains.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEfwoqKRU8

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 00:36
EVs in China - focussed

China is producing many thousands of EVs but not selling them. The makers keep producing them to keep receiving subsidies but there are not enough buyers, so they park them up.

This YouTube clip explains.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEfwoqKRU8

This video was obviously sponsored and financed by big oil.

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 08:42
EVs in China - John F

I think this video is a pretty stupid example of American anti-China propaganda. Far from intentionally being 'left to rot' by the scheming PRC, these cars are merely the property of a failed car-share business called Microcity. If you want to know more, just search 'microcity cars'. (Then perhaps search on the carbon footprint of an American compared to......well, anyone else....)

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 09:18
EVs in China - Adampr

I'm quite enjoying the idea that the sinister Chinese are spending their money on building thousands of cars just to put them in a field. That's one in the eye for democracy!

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 10:24
EVs in China - sammy1

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 11:55
EVs in China - Sofa Spud

I resisted the temptation to order a dozen Ekster wallets!

A lot of these cars are probably the result of failed orders or abandoned schemes like the car sharing one that was mentioned.

I'd guess that when the cars have aged enough to not be considered 'new', they'll be sold off dirt-cheap.

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 13:18
EVs in China - alan1302

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

Have you a 'Made in Britain' car?

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 14:27
EVs in China - sammy1

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

Have you a 'Made in Britain' car?

Yes I own a MINI 1.5 auto made in Oxford the original home of the MINI and very nice it is too both Oxford and the car>

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 21:32
EVs in China - alan1302

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

Have you a 'Made in Britain' car?

Yes I own a MINI 1.5 auto made in Oxford the original home of the MINI and very nice it is too both Oxford and the car>

So why are you not proud of it being Made in Britain?

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 23:05
EVs in China - sammy1

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

Have you a 'Made in Britain' car?

Yes I own a MINI 1.5 auto made in Oxford the original home of the MINI and very nice it is too both Oxford and the car>

So why are you not proud of it being Made in Britain?

Where in the my post above says I am not?

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 23:10
EVs in China - alan1302

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

Have you a 'Made in Britain' car?

Yes I own a MINI 1.5 auto made in Oxford the original home of the MINI and very nice it is too both Oxford and the car>

So why are you not proud of it being Made in Britain?

Where in the my post above says I am not?

You said 'Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of' so does not sound like you would be proud of it being made in Britain any longer for some reason.

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Wed 5 Jul 2023 09:57
EVs in China - sammy1

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

Have you a 'Made in Britain' car?

Yes I own a MINI 1.5 auto made in Oxford the original home of the MINI and very nice it is too both Oxford and the car>

So why are you not proud of it being Made in Britain?

Where in the my post above says I am not?

You said 'Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of' so does not sound like you would be proud of it being made in Britain any longer for some reason.

Everything you post on here is having a go at someone and putting your own negative on statements taken out of the whole post and content. All my comment reflects is that not that long ago Britain was a manufacturing country and that our car industry is shrinking. You must have been struck rigid when my answer to your question was that I had a MINI hence this latest barb about not be proud of my country.

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Wed 5 Jul 2023 21:18
EVs in China - alan1302

China is making a fair few Teslas for world markets. I don't think these are hanging around. Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of. We should have no trouble reaching zero carbon when the rest of the car industry decides to leave.

Have you a 'Made in Britain' car?

Yes I own a MINI 1.5 auto made in Oxford the original home of the MINI and very nice it is too both Oxford and the car>

So why are you not proud of it being Made in Britain?

Where in the my post above says I am not?

You said 'Remember when Made in Britain was something to be proud of' so does not sound like you would be proud of it being made in Britain any longer for some reason.

Everything you post on here is having a go at someone and putting your own negative on statements taken out of the whole post and content. All my comment reflects is that not that long ago Britain was a manufacturing country and that our car industry is shrinking. You must have been struck rigid when my answer to your question was that I had a MINI hence this latest barb about not be proud of my country.

No, I thought you had a Mini but was not sure - so perplexed why you were not proud of it. I can't see why there being less car manuafctuing in the UK would make you less proud of cars that are made here though?

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 13:17
EVs in China - alan1302

I think this video is a pretty stupid example of American anti-China propaganda. Far from intentionally being 'left to rot' by the scheming PRC, these cars are merely the property of a failed car-share business called Microcity. If you want to know more, just search 'microcity cars'. (Then perhaps search on the carbon footprint of an American compared to......well, anyone else....)

Good to know the truth behind this one, it didn't look like they had been left there to rot on purpose.

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Tue 4 Jul 2023 21:55
EVs in China - focussed

Reading that article it contains the paragraphs:-

"The cars were owned by Microcity, a Hangzhou-based electric car-sharing company, AFP reported. A former manager of the company said that the cars were set to be replaced with newer electric vehicles.

The former manager, Lou Gaofeng, told AFP most of the cars “were the first generation electric vehicles which had been produced in 2013 and even earlier and should be replaced due to technological progress.”

So - cars left to rot is a fair description.

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Wed 5 Jul 2023 11:05
EVs in China - John F

.The former manager, Lou Gaofeng, told AFP most of the cars “were the first generation electric vehicles ...... and should be replaced due to technological progress.”

So - cars left to rot is a fair description.

No it's not. It's an assertion, and probably erroneous. A description would be 'a lot of cars in a parking lot'.

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Wed 5 Jul 2023 11:52
EVs in China - galileo

.The former manager, Lou Gaofeng, told AFP most of the cars “were the first generation electric vehicles ...... and should be replaced due to technological progress.”

So - cars left to rot is a fair description.

No it's not. It's an assertion, and probably erroneous. A description would be 'a lot of cars in a parking lot'.

Hardly parked in a way that would make re-use easy or economic, compare with the old airfields used fro storage here.

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