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Impressions we have of our cars - Xileno

I thought this was worthy of its own thread rather than being a bit of drift from the Renault Austral thread. Could be interesting to read members' experiences.

Renault Austral - First Impressions - sammy1

Nobody ever gives much credit to Fords on here except perhaps for the odd old Focus and the 1.25 Fiesta. Ford over the years have produced some really great cars both family and performance wise. Indeed Elaine Robinson may have been conceived in the back of a FORD much to Benjamin Braddock's amusement!

Renault Austral - First Impressions - FiestaOwner

This is a forum for all to contribute their experiences and opinions and enjoy.

Nobody ever gives much credit to Fords on here except perhaps for the odd old Focus and the 1.25 Fiesta. Ford over the years have produced some really great cars both family and performance wise. Indeed Elaine Robinson may have been conceived in the back of a FORD much to Benjamin Braddock's amusement!

I’m happy to give credit to Ford. I’ve had 3 Fiesta’s (since 1987) and loved all of them. My parents have had 7 Fords (since 1987) and all but one (97 Escort) have been good.


Have had 2 VAG group cars and both have been good. Parents have had 10 VAG cars (since 1971) and only one of them was duff (VW Up!).


I appreciate that everyone has different experiences, but I will rate my personal experiences from good (1st) to bad:

  • 1st= 1985 957cc MK2 Ford Fiesta Popular (Very basic, but trouble free. Exhausts didn’t last long though!)
  • 1st= 1991 1119cc MK3 Ford Fiesta LX (Hugh step up from the MK2. Excellent performance. Nicely finished inside)
  • 1st= 2012 1.25 80BHP MK7 Ford Fiesta Edge (Best handling car I’ve ever had. Good space for rear seat passengers. Good sized boot. Have had passengers on long trips who were amazed at the amount of space this car had, despite the motoring press criticising this car for being cramped
  • 4th 1999 1.0 Nissan Micra Equation (Enjoyable but basic car to drive. Good performance (Unless you’re going up the road to Glenshee with 3 passengers!!) Would say this was very much an underrated car)
  • 5th 1998 1.9 TD VW Transporter T4 (OK, this one’s a van. Very comfy van. Good handling, for a van. Very well finished inside and out (especially, when compared to Ford Transits)
  • 6th 2019 1.0 TSI SEAT Ibiza FR (Nice to drive. Excellent performance. TSI engine is brilliant. Dealer totally sucks)
  • 7th 2004 1.2 16V Renault Clio Dynamic MK2 (Looked a smart car, with good specification. Totally reliable for the 1st 5 years. After 5 years old had issues with: broken springs, broken drop links, leaking sunroof etc. Traded in at 8 years old, with an intermittent misfire. Overall not a bad car. Dealers also suck.)
  • 8th 1981 Renault 4 1108cc (Bought at 5 years old (1st car). Extremely rusty (knew it was rusty). Soft suspension made it an extremely comfortable car. No significant issues. Bought for £675 and traded in a year and a half later for £400.)

Very few of us own up to our buying mistakes and are totally honest like SLO.

I too, will admit to my mistakes:

  • 9th 1995 2.3D Nissan Vanette Cargo, based on the Serena (Terrible van, kept for under 3 years. Had: Synchromesh problems, Camshaft oil seal replaced twice, gearbox oil leak, replacement clutch pressure plate, exhaust fell off. Very hard seats (ok for up to an hour, but after that you had to stop and take a break), very slow off the mark (seemed a very poor choice of gear ratios)
  • 10th 2019 1.5 Toyota Yaris Icon Tech (Loss of power when pulling away, causing a kangaroo effect. Awful headlights, couldn’t see a thing with them. Terrible gear change (you had to take your time otherwise it crunched going into 2nd. You therefore lost the extra performance you should have gained by going for the 1.5 engine) Traded in at 7 months old. Can’t see me buying another Toyota).
  • 10th= 2018 1.2 Hyundai i20 (Juddering clutch, clutch changed twice under warranty with a modified one (was worse after it was sorted!!). Gear change wasn’t the best. On paper the spec of the car was exactly what I was after. Particularly liked the: sensible sized wheels, proven chain cam engine, 5 year warranty. Traded in at 1 year old (7000 miles). Used 2 dealers and both totally sucked. Can’t see me buying another Hyundai.)


There are no guarantees when buying cars (all my duff cars were new). All makes produce duff cars. It doesn’t matter on the reputation of the brand, if you buy a duff car, it will put you off that brand.

I chose my last 2 cars particularly on the reputation of those brands.

I will choose my future cars based on my personal experience with different car brands.

Renault Austral - First Impressions - Adampr

I've made more mistakes than I can remember or care to share. I'd say the worst, though, was buying a non-runner 1965 Mercedes 220Se Coupe (W111) for £8k, spending another £16k on it and then selling it for £5k. I drove it twice.

Renault Austral - First Impressions - FiestaOwner

I've made more mistakes than I can remember or care to share. I'd say the worst, though, was buying a non-runner 1965 Mercedes 220Se Coupe (W111) for £8k, spending another £16k on it and then selling it for £5k. I drove it twice.

Just had to look up the W111 to see what it was. I can really see the attraction.

Renault Austral - First Impressions - Adampr

I've made more mistakes than I can remember or care to share. I'd say the worst, though, was buying a non-runner 1965 Mercedes 220Se Coupe (W111) for £8k, spending another £16k on it and then selling it for £5k. I drove it twice.

Just had to look up the W111 to see what it was. I can really see the attraction.

It was that, plus having a good job and no kids at the time!

This is the actual car. I am so pleased that I sold it to this dealer because they did an incredible job getting it up to scratch before selling it on.

www.ccbenz.co.uk/cars/220seb-coupe-2-2-litre-6-cyl.../

Renault Austral - First Impressions - SLO76
“ There are no guarantees when buying cars (all my duff cars were new). All makes produce duff cars. It doesn’t matter on the reputation of the brand, if you buy a duff car, it will put you off that brand.”

My dad had one bad experience with a Ford Popular in the 60’s and just couldn’t get over it. We lived nearby the local Ford dealer and no matter how hard his friend who worked there tried he just wouldn’t buy one. I remember trying desperately to talk him into the ex demo 1989 Ford Scorpio 2.9 V6 in gold with tan leather seats that I absolutely loved but he just couldn’t forgive Ford for that one bad car. Ditto Vauxhall after a bad Bedford HA van in the 70’s. The local Vauxhall dealer almost gave him a last of the line Senator 3.0 24v but yet again he couldn’t get past his one bad experience.

Yet he had great experiences with several Renaults over the years and swore by their engines which he had in a Renault 4 GTL Van, Renault Extra 1.4 Van, Volvo 340 GL 1.4, Volvo 340 GL 1.7 and 440 Turbo.

Weirdly (unlike me) he never really got into Japanese cars. He had one Honda Civic, a VTi saloon. But never really loved it.
Renault Austral - First Impressions - Adampr

I'd say my best ever was a Mazda Xedos9 Miller. I bought it for £1,500, it was mega comfortable and it had the most extraordinary supercharged engine.

Renault Austral - First Impressions - sammy1

Best Ford I had was a Cortina 2000E which for a Cortina was luxury. Also drove but never owned several Granadas and they were a very nice place to be and gobbled the miles effortlessly. When I was enjoying a hobby of buying and repairing CAT D or N cars I always bought Fiestas or Focuses. As they are so popular second hand panels and other parts are always available Never had any problem selling them on. Sadly Ford are having a serious review of the range of cars and markets that suit them.

Renault Austral - First Impressions - FiestaOwner

Sadly Ford are having a serious review of the range of cars and markets that suit them.

Can’t understand what Ford is up to. Ford always had very popular cars to suit the working person (KA, Fiesta, Escort, Focus, Sierra, Mondeo). They’ve got rid of all these cars (Fiesta going soon) and are trying to move upmarket.


If you look at the Ford website, their entry car will be the Ecosport starting at £23460, then the Puma at £24940, then the Focus Active at £27910.


For Skoda the Fabia starts at £18600, Scala £20800, Kamiq £22780, Octavia £24540.


For VW the UP! Starts at £14630, Polo £20070, T-Cross £23220, Taigo £24260, Golf £26565.


If I was buying a new car next year (after the Fiesta had gone out of production) the Fabia or Polo would be a lot more suitable (and affordable) than anything Ford would have to offer.

Can’t help feeling that Ford has forgotten who buys their cars. Just can’t see Audi & BMW buyers rushing to buy an overpriced Ford.


Having owned several Fiestas and known many satisfied owners of Escorts, Focuses (or Foci), Sierras and Mondeos, I’m really saddened that Ford are abandoning their customers who are looking to buy well built (but reasonably straightforward cars) and concentrating on fancy cars that the working person can’t afford. Think this will prove to be a very bad business move.

Edited by FiestaOwner on 17/06/2023 at 23:52

Fords - Impressions - Andrew-T

In over 60 years of driving I have never owned a Ford, and I can't recall actually driving one, but an outing in a hire or pool Ford may have happened. It may be something to do with settling on Merseyside in the late 60s when Halewood was turning out Cortinas or Escorts, and there were plenty of scallies in L'pool with master keys. Cars were sometimes found on bricks minus their wheels after a couple of hours shopping.

Fords - Impressions - alan1302

First car - Nissan Micra (K11 version) (named Fred) - great first car - sipped petrol and was great fun to drive and passed its MOT everytime. Paid £400. Only sold it as thought was getting a better car next time...

2nd car - Fiat Grande Punto (named Franco...although eventually just called swear words) - a bit of a disaster, although the look of the car was great, it started wearing out inside and out very quickly - the power steering failed and cost a fortune to fix, suspension needed fixing and the interior wore really badly - especially the seats. Failed an MOT - can't remember why now. Got rid of it as didn't want anything else going wrong - Paid £6,500

3rd Car - Corsa B (called Colin) - full of rust, rattled, the heater matrix leaked and had no power at all...but was great fun and the 1.0l 3 cylinder engine sounded great even if you didn't get anywhere fast ever. Amazingly it passed all its MOT. Paid £800. Sold it as had the cash to buy a nearly new car and it was time to have something safer and less rusty :-)

4th Car - Hyundai i10 (called Harry) - 1.2l - nice to drive, did have a power steering failiure which was fixed under warranty and other than that had no issues. Always ran well and with the seats down had a surprising ammount of space - had it from 18 months old to about 7 years and did 110,000 miles in it. Only Paid £6,500 and only sold as needed a bigger car.

5th Car - present model - Vauxhall Combo Lide (named Dr Vaux) - needed a bigger car for an electric wheelchair and this car is perfect for that. 1.5l diesel is the first I've had and really enjoy it...sliding doors and awesome as well. Drives surprisingly nicely for a van and parking is easy with the square sides and decent visability.

Fords - Impressions - catsdad

Including company cars and second cars I am on my 24th car. Ownership ranged from 2 years to about 15.

Only three models made the list more than once. Original Mini where I had two. Two Astras, including the longest server a 1999, 1.6 estate. Three Mondeos, a Mk 1 2.0, a 2.5 V6 and a 2.0 diesel. The Mondeos were all company cars when I had a very free choice but the Mondeo met my needs and many of my colleagues also had more than one over the years.

None of my cars has needed major repairs except for rust in the early days but the worst for niggles and minor faults was a 98 Vectra. Too many to list here. Again our Corsa was poor. Yet a Nova and both Astras ran fault free, one for 15 years. It’s hard to generalise over makes when my best and worst reliability came from the same stable.

The most fondly remembered are Renault 4, Austin Allegro 1500, Saab 9-5, Astra estate Accord diesel and 1.8 Civic. I’d still have the last one if it hadn’t suffered from the oil issues affecting 2012 cars. The early favourites however are as much to do with the associations they have with important times of life and the freedom of owning a car however basic.

The most disappointing car was a BMW 3 2.0 petrol. The seats made my legs ache and it was just a bit meh. The Avensis diesel estate was dull but reliable. I never quite got over my adult son describing it as a car for someone who has given up

The rest of those 24 cars were a mix. Although not overall favourites I do come back to those three Mondeos as being very good indeed and I agree current Fords come nowhere close.

Fords - Impressions - edlithgow

Lots of bad buys, but TBH I've never really had a car I didn't like,

If I'd ever bought any modern (post 1993, say) cars I might not be able to say this.

I have had 2 or 3 that I never really managed to get running well enough to get any proper use out of. though..

Fords - Impressions - Steveieb

I was always bought up by my father to be a Ford aficionado, and owned a Classic , Corsair and Anglia but when my work colleague Major Arthur Matlock , who designed and built the U2 hill climb car in his spare time , turned up at work in 1977 with a Honda Accord Mk 1 we all realised that we should take notice of this new Japanese firm.

He was so right, the car was so far ahead of its time and the engine so smooth , a fifty pence coin would balance on the engine.

And when the cam shaft wore out at 80, 000 miles I was astounded that Honda would replace it. This would , in my mind separate the Japanese manufacturers from the rest, they owned up to their mistakes and made good the problem. The same still applies today.

After enjoying 5 VW Golf diesels and a Mk 2 Audi 80 Tdi which was galvanised unlike the Honda which rusted away , I bought a Mk 6 Golf Tdi 1.6 not realising the engines had lost their grunt , and so the romance was short lived.

So it was back to the 1.9 PD engined Audi A4 which I still own today thanks to help from Elekie Doc when the electrics go wrong.

Also managed to get a low mileage RAV4 Mk 2 which I really like .

But the highlights that I was lucky enough to drive at Millbrook Proving Ground were:-

Honda Civic R free reving engine

Honda S 2000 Gearbox for ultimate smoothness

Subaru Impreza for perfect balance at 120 mph on the parabolica

Mazda MX5 Mk 2 for sheer enjoyment on the alpine circuit.

Best combination of all these in a modern car VW GTD.

Fords - Impressions - John F

I cut my teeth on Fords. The first was a rotten old 103E Popular bought for a fiver - didn't last long! The next was a £50 Ford Anglia 100E which I had for about three years until, on snowy morning, it slid into a United Leeds Hospitals Consultant Anaesthetist's Volvo and collapsed into a heap of rust. The Volvo sustained a small dent. I remember the ease with which mechanical repairs could be done, e.g. dropping the gear box to replace the first unsynchromeshed gear cog which had lost a couple of teeth.

Next up, my 21st birthday savings went into the first requitement of my developing love of fast cars - an old dark blue Ford Anglia 105E, complete with original light bue go-faster stripes. The previous owner had dropped the suspension and inserted a stage 2 tuned 1600GT engine linked to a Lotus box. Eventually this bundle of fun threw a piston ring which, in the absence of funds for a repair, presented another challenge to my rudimentary mechanical skills. (Although there was enough cash available for a piston ring compression tool rather than trying to use a plastic cup, Ed ;-)

Then no more Fords until shortly before marriage in 1980 when I bought a Fiesta Ghia 1.3 which for two years was the first of four family cars. (The second and third were VW Passat estates). The fourth was the trusty Mk1 1.6 auto Focus estate which regulars will know of; a car that Ford, with Yamaha (engine) and Mazda (autobox) input, really got right

Impressions - Andrew-T

In over 60 years of driving I have never owned a Ford, and I can't recall actually driving one, but an outing in a hire or pool Ford may have happened.

Expanding on this tale : I suppose I inherited brand loyalty from my parents, who had a couple of 1100 autos when they were new on the scene. In Canada I got a red 1100 which took us over much of the US and Canada, then got a couple more after returning to UK. When family space required, switched to Maxis (had 5 of those). Then a Cavalier estate followed by a Nissan Prairie when daughters had a lot of stuff to ferry to uni. After that phase, became addicted to Pug 205s, of which there have been about 15 in total, the latest black one sitting in the garage. Scattered among the series there have been a Triumph 1300, a Punto, a Clio and a few Pug 306s, some of them diesel, and finally the current 207SW.

I don't remember being especially enchanted or cursed by any of them, and only one or two acquired a name - the Cavalier was Charles, and the daughters had 205s called Penelope Pitstop or Sally Salad-cream (colour). None of them gave much trouble, tho a Maxi was moved on smartly after I poked a screwdriver through one sill.

Impressions we have of our cars - mcb100
My own cars, with one exception, have been the automotive version of white goods - buy for not a lot of money (current car was £3000), drive them up and down the country for work when needed and leave in a skip when they’re no longer viable.
The one exception was a 1982 Lancia Beta Coupé I had in the mid 80’s. It’s the one I regretted selling, but I did get a company car.
The caveat is that I’m a believer in the mantra ‘never meet your heroes’, as if I drove the same car today, in the same condition, it’d just feel old fashioned, noisy and uncomfortable (long arms, short legs required to get comfortable).
Same with the coveted Rover SD1 Vitesse - I’d rather admire from afar than get disillusioned by driving one.
Impressions we have of our cars - primus 1

My first ever car was a 1969 mini, just passed my test as my then gf ( now wife) had done I remember the sliding quarter window didn’t latch and I couldn’t sleep for fear of someone breaking in and stealing it, then moved onto an allegro, followed by a Mazda 323, lovely car, but sold it to buy my next car with my heart instead of my head, an alfa Romeo alfasud, I swear on a still night you could hear the rust eating it’s way through the bodywork, that was followed by two metro,s, then a Nissan micra, Renault Clio and modus followed , then bought a mk2 Yaris, nice car but had a gearbox fault, ( found out it was an easy adjustment of the cables), then I started my love affair with ford, with my first ever fiesta , brand new ecoboost, followed by the updated one a three years later, then to my current car. A puma, lovely car but plagued with faults, a door lock module failure, a dash rattle, resulting in a new dash, and finally a strange engine noise which sounded very much like a worn pulley, turned out to be something else that required a brand new factory fresh engine…I’m waiting the arrival of my brand new car, a Toyota Yaris cross, not going to trust Ford again…

Impressions we have of our cars - Adampr

As it's Sunday, I'm going to see if I can get through all of them....

1983 MK1 Astra - inherited from my brother, who bought it for £250. Scrapped when the MIT was due as the clutch had gone. Started roughly 50% of the time due to the 'automatic' choke flooding the engine. Switches fell out of the dashboard if you slammed the door.

2001 BMW Mini One - bought brand new. Just over £13k including £3k of options. Wonderful for a 24 year old me. Got rid of it because I emigrated. Still fantasise about buying it back from someone. It still has an MOT.

1992 Toyota Hilux Surf 2.4TD auto- cracked the cylinder head after about 3 months, but otherwise great. Very slow off the line but weirdly good once it was going.

1992 Toyota Hilux Surf 3.0 V6 auto - great fun. Did 18mpg.

2002 MG ZT-T - comfortable and fast. Nicely put together. Swapped for a year's membership to a Classic Car Club.

1999 Mazda Xedos 9 2.3 Miller - incredible engine. Made a noise like a flying saucer. The suspension collapsed somehow. Never investigated it, swapped for year's membership to a Classic Car Club.

1999 Vauxhall Corsa 1.4 auto - garbage. Bought as a run around and it kind of did that. Constant gurgling from the dash, presumably heater matrix. Sold when my work decided I would be driving to the Midlands every day.

2009 Mini Clubman Cooper D - night as an ex demo. great fun, very efficient. Not exactly practical.

2009 Mini One - bought to save finance costs on the Clubman and so my wife could learn to drive (Clubman was an auto). Dealer lost the locking wheel nut and wouldn't give me a replacement. I eventually got so annoyed with chasing them that I binned it off and swore of Minis for ever.

2009 Mitsubishi Colt - very basic, but very agile and good fun. Unfortunately had to go becaus of...

1999 Nissan Micra - my wife inherited from her mum and kept it for sentimental reasons, meaning the mitsubishi had to go. Brilliant little car, useless up hill or joining motorways. Eventually gave it to my wife's brother who scrapped it after one MOT due to chassis corrosion.

1999 MGF - bought as I was required to drive from London to Kent so went for something cheap to eat up the a roads and get my 45p per mile expenses. No ABS, no power steering. Very loud, leaky rust bucket. Amazing fun on corners wet and dry, terrifying on the motorway on wet and windy nights.

1992 Mitsubishi Delica - bought it on eBay from a bloke on the Isle of Arran when I was drunk and to fly up and get it. 'Converted' it into a camper and had many happy years with until it eventually cost me £1,000 a year to fix the electrics every MOT. Eventually used in a minimum trade in deal for a Golf. Had to drive it to the dealer with brake lights and handbrake stuck on.

1965 Mercedes 220 SEb - as above, bought a s restoration project. Fingers heavily burned

1993 Mercedes 220E. Part of the trade-in for the classic merc. Brilliant car in every way but had to be purged when my son was on the way (at one point, I had four different cars, hence the confusing timeline. This got rationalised after starting a family...)

2008 Honda FR-V 2.2d. Surprisingly fast and very practical. Somewhat cramped inside due to the three abreast seating. Traded in for the Golf along with the Delica.

2007 Focus 1.6 auto - great car, but extremely thirsty, probably due to the auto box. Traded in after 6 months hard use when the MOT was due.

2016 Seat Mii FR Line. Looked like a GTI, went like a glacier. Not bad at all and kept it five years but the clutch made and annoying slapping sound.

2018 Golf 1.6tdi estate dct. Great, apart from the incredibly bad seats.

2013 Seat Toledo 1.2 TSI - roomy, efficient and entirely competent. Just a bit rough around the edges.

2020 Vauxhall Corsa-e. Lots of toys, drove well and saved a lot of money. Very cramped in the back and not much quality.

2019 Skoda Karoq 1.5tsi dct - super comfy, quiet. A bit jerky when cold and reasonably dull.

2017 Renault.Twingo - cheap inside and out, but great fun.

I think that's it! Probably more to.xome when I remember them.

Edited by Adampr on 18/06/2023 at 18:10

Impressions we have of our cars - Sofa Spud

I'll own up to once having an Austim Allegro. It was a 1500 estate. I bought it because we needed to buy a car in a hurry and it was the best available locally on our budget at the time. It was actually quite a good car, reliable car. It did have a circular steering wheel, not the squared off 'quartic' one of the earlier versions. These days non-circular steering wheels are back in fashion, it seems.

Impressions we have of our cars - John F

I think that's it! Probably more to.xome when I remember them.

Phew - that's 23. You must be a car salesperson's dream. My impression is of a huge accumulating depreciation sum!

Not counting our family cars, my personal drives have been...........

1967 - 1980 (self indulgent bachelorhood) Ford Popular, Ford Anglias 100E and 105E, Rover 2000TC, Triumph 1300, Jaguar XJ6, Triumph Dolomite Sprint, Jaguar XK120. (The Rover and Triumph 1300 were inherited from elderly parents.) The old Jag XJ6 (rare manual) was my biggest mistake - cost £1000, intended to be a restoration project but too rusty with an incontinent engine; lasted only a year. £1k per annum depreciation in those days was a fortune - never to be tolerated again! The XK120 was also intended as a restoration project but never had the time or resources....at least it made a handsome profit when sold after eight years.

1980 - 2023 (the dad/walking-wallet era) Triumph TR7 DHC, Audis 100 2.0E, A6 2.8 SE, A8 W12 sport quattro. Still got the TR7 and A8, which will probably outlast me.

So, just twelve cars in over 50yrs (four in the last 43). I loved them all - except the first two Fords.

Impressions we have of our cars - Adampr

I think that's it! Probably more to.xome when I remember them.

Phew - that's 23. You must be a car salesperson's dream. My impression is of a huge accumulating depreciation sum!

Not counting our family cars, my personal drives have been...........

That's 23 in 24 years! Ridiculous. Yes, I can't imagine how much money I've lost, but probably in six figures. I'm sure they all made sense at the time.

Now, when you say 'not counting our family cars', do I get to discount all the cars I've bought since being married?