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Car recommendations under £7000 - A_C

Hi, would like advice on behalf of a relative looking for a replacement for his 2012 Toyota Yaris SR (99bhp). Change in job soon, means will be commuting further than usual and driving around 12-15k miles pa, mostly M and A roads.

Criteria, in no particular order:

1) Better MPG than the current 36mpg

2) Reliability

3) A car with a bit more poke than currently

4) Would prefer the ease of an auto but happy enough with a manual, as reliability and MPG is more important

5) Would prefer something a little sporty looking, but not hugely important

6) Parking sensors/Reverse cam would be a bonus as current vehicle has them

£7000 budget.

Thanks

Car recommendations under £7000 - elekie&a/c doctor
Later model Yaris fits all that criteria.
Car recommendations under £7000 - SLO76
2012 SR Yaris models are retailing for not much less than that today, I’d suggest either keeping what they have and maybe driving it a bit more gently (36mpg from a Yaris is foot to the floor economy, I get more from an Avensis 1.8) or finding more money down the back of the sofa and upgrade to the likes of a Toyota Auris Hybrid or Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv. A Honda Civic 1.6 DTEC would be the only diesel I would recommend, but they’ll need to spend more to get a decent one. These can do 70mpg on a run, but that said, the Yaris should be doing 55mpg easily.
Car recommendations under £7000 - A_C

Aye used prices are now much higher than I thought they would be. I think you are right about the heavy foot, he says he's managed 45mpg on a run and around 38mpg locally, but that does seem low. I've messaged your recommendations to him, thanks. What are your opinions on Suzuki swift, Honda CR-Z?

Car recommendations under £7000 - SLO76
“ What are your opinions on Suzuki swift, Honda CR-Z?”

I’m a big fan of the Swift, they’re good value, cheap to run and great fun to drive. But it won’t be any better on fuel than the Yaris and it’s smaller and probably a bit less refined at speed. The CR-Z is an interesting little car, but it’s getting old now and battery packs will be past their best. If they’d just stuck to a screaming normally aspirated petrol motor with a bit more pep than the Honda Jazz motor it had and a sensible price tag then it might have caught on. I do get the appeal of either but neither will be more reliable or cheaper to run than a Yaris.

Edited by SLO76 on 17/06/2023 at 21:18

Car recommendations under £7000 - A_C
“ What are your opinions on Suzuki swift, Honda CR-Z?” I’m a big fan of the Swift, they’re good value, cheap to run and great fun to drive. But it won’t be any better on fuel than the Yaris and it’s smaller and probably a bit less refined at speed. The CR-Z is an interesting little car, but it’s getting old now and battery packs will be past their best. If they’d just stuck to a screaming normally aspirated petrol motor with a bit more pep than the Honda Jazz motor it had and a sensible price tag then it might have caught on. I do get the appeal of either but neither will be more reliable or cheaper to run than a Yaris.

That's fair enough, I think perhaps it may be best for him to stick with the Yaris for now and drive it more gently, whilst saving up a little more for a proper upgrade rather than a sideways move. Might be a silly question but do you think used prices will be coming down any time soon?

Car recommendations under £7000 - Engineer Andy

Hi, would like advice on behalf of a relative looking for a replacement for his 2012 Toyota Yaris SR (99bhp). Change in job soon, means will be commuting further than usual and driving around 12-15k miles pa, mostly M and A roads.

Criteria, in no particular order:

1) Better MPG than the current 36mpg

2) Reliability

3) A car with a bit more poke than currently

4) Would prefer the ease of an auto but happy enough with a manual, as reliability and MPG is more important

5) Would prefer something a little sporty looking, but not hugely important

6) Parking sensors/Reverse cam would be a bonus as current vehicle has them

£7000 budget.

Thanks

Whilst some have already chimed in with suggestions, one criteria that will make a significant difference is what size of car are you looking for? A direct size replacement - the 'larger' city cars and most superminis, or something larger, or sized from X to Y?

Note that you current 2012 Yaris is slightly smaller (not by much though) than the latest superminis, as cars get a bit larger (for the most part) from one generation to the next, especially now that many have 'SUV' or crossover variants.

BTW - are you looking for a manual, 'proper' auto or 'dual clutch' automated manual (that to many acts like an auto but in reality isn't - epsecially when usage pattern and reliability is taken into account)?

This will also make a big difference to a second-hand buyer like you, as in my view, dual clutch 'auto' cars may be out, not because they don't suit your driving pattern - they do - but because you cannot guarantee how reliable a second hand car with one will be, because you don't know what usage it got before the purchase.

Such vehicles aren't suited to predominantly heavy, stop-start traffic driving, and any previous owner could've offloaded it (even someone who's done low mileage) because the clucth pack has likely started to wear.

Traditional 'torque converter' gearboxes are mainly excellent reliability-wise (if maintained properly), but do sap far more power and use more fuel (though a good deal less than they used to 10 years ago) than a dual clutch or CVT box. For example, the current Mazda2 (2015 onwards) has a good amount of the performance credentials you want, but the only (TC) auto version (90hp, none in top spec 115hp version) drops the 0-60 time to below your existing car.

A (well-engineed [not all are]) CVT does combined the best of both the above, but a good number of drivers don't like the noise they make when pushing hard (say on an overtake). Often a matter of personal preference.

Avoid 'automated manual' single clutch gearboxes such as the Honda i-Shift and some others - they aren't nice to use in my view and many appear to suffer from reliability woes, especially as they age.

Car recommendations under £7000 - badbusdriver

36mpg from a 1.3 Yaris is crazy, he must be absolutely thrashing the car all the time (or the brakes are binding)!.

Should get 50mpg from one of those with little effort.

Car recommendations under £7000 - Tester

36mpg from a 1.3 Yaris is crazy, he must be absolutely thrashing the car all the time (or the brakes are binding)!.

Should get 50mpg from one of those with little effort.

It's pretty startling, isn't it? Have you tried showing the guy how to engage gears above 3rd?! My non-hybrid Auris 1.2 has no trouble with 50+ mpg overall and can even get close to that around town (according to the display), especially in this warmer weather.

Car recommendations under £7000 - A_C

Thanks for your detailed reply, very informative.

He has no preference for size in particular, just no estates.

Either a proper auto or manual is fine, he had an old Honda Jazz Sport (CVT?) a few years back and he was happy with it.

So far this is what he has been looking into: Fabia/Polo/Ibiza/Golf/Leon 1.2 TSI (2013-), Focus 1.6 MK3, Suzuki Swift (2010-), Honda CRZ, Astra GTC, Auris (2013-), Hyundai i40 (1.7), and now Civic DTEC and Mazda2/3 skyactive thanks to yourself and SLO76.

Any thoughts on the above?

Car recommendations under £7000 - Adampr

Thanks for your detailed reply, very informative.

He has no preference for size in particular, just no estates.

Either a proper auto or manual is fine, he had an old Honda Jazz Sport (CVT?) a few years back and he was happy with it.

So far this is what he has been looking into: Fabia/Polo/Ibiza/Golf/Leon 1.2 TSI (2013-), Focus 1.6 MK3, Suzuki Swift (2010-), Honda CRZ, Astra GTC, Auris (2013-), Hyundai i40 (1.7), and now Civic DTEC and Mazda2/3 skyactive thanks to yourself and SLO76.

Any thoughts on the above?

That's a pretty good list. I've always fancied a CRZ.

Personally I would be leaning towards the larger options for frequent motorway work.

If he's looking at the Fabia, Polo etc, it might also be worth including the Seat Toledo / Skoda Rapid. Essentially a stretched Ibiza/Fabia but cheaper because what image they have is very dull. I had a 1.2tsi for a couple of years and it was very well equipped for the price and utterly faultless.

Car recommendations under £7000 - A_C

Thanks for your detailed reply, very informative.

He has no preference for size in particular, just no estates.

Either a proper auto or manual is fine, he had an old Honda Jazz Sport (CVT?) a few years back and he was happy with it.

So far this is what he has been looking into: Fabia/Polo/Ibiza/Golf/Leon 1.2 TSI (2013-), Focus 1.6 MK3, Suzuki Swift (2010-), Honda CRZ, Astra GTC, Auris (2013-), Hyundai i40 (1.7), and now Civic DTEC and Mazda2/3 skyactive thanks to yourself and SLO76.

Any thoughts on the above?

That's a pretty good list. I've always fancied a CRZ.

Personally I would be leaning towards the larger options for frequent motorway work.

If he's looking at the Fabia, Polo etc, it might also be worth including the Seat Toledo / Skoda Rapid. Essentially a stretched Ibiza/Fabia but cheaper because what image they have is very dull. I had a 1.2tsi for a couple of years and it was very well equipped for the price and utterly faultless.

I had overlooked those, thanks for the suggestions.