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2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - Warning

I never owned a BMW. I try to buy sensible cars with low repair costs.

I fancied a BMW 3 series. I keep reading about high repair bills. YouTuber Scotty Kilmer's who saying BMW = Big Money Wasters Money Pit etc....

I don't know if a BMW is worth. I don't want a BMW for prestige, but may be a great driving experience. I am not a boy racer.... I want something great to drive.

The car supermarket do sell add-on warrantee, but I don't know what it will cover and what it does n't.

Is the 3 year warranty a good way to off-set high repair bills?

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - Adampr

Have you driven it yet? Some people (including me) don't like how BMWs drive.

The warranty will have a lot of limitations on it. Check the wording before you even see the car in the flesh.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - _

Any warranty on a 2015 (really?) car, BMW or otherwise will just be very expensive toilet paper.

Basically, nothing wear and tear, steering suspension, engine gearbox, transmission, service parts.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - sammy1

Look the cost of owning a BMW is no more than any other car of similar size in the range. Once out of dealer warranty find yourself a good independent garage or BMW specialist and enjoy the merits of a well constructed and reliable car. The thing that can kill car ownership is the cost of labour. Routine servicing costs are well affordable if you stay away from the main dealers Running any car is expensive so spend time working out what bills might be, tyres, servicing, road tax, insurance, repairs.

Do not buy a diesel unless you are a high mileage driver and even then think hard. Double check the insurance premium first

As to a 3 year warranty, you will pay heavy for such a thing and again needs careful thought. The car supermarket are obligated by the trade description act for 6 months in any case so if the seller is reputable they should honour it.

Buyers are rightly concerned about the car trade but a long test drive and a bit of research on the model you are buying will be worth while. The thought that a modern second hand car will go bang these days is largely a mithe but it can happen!

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - Warning

Have you driven it yet?

I have not driven it. The only time, I got lucky in Spain at a car hire, and got to drive a BMW 1 series. Whist it was reasonable to drive, but one thing I noticed on a long drive, I was not tired on a long journey. I can't explain it.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - pd

Simple solution: If your budget is £15k buy one for £13k and bung £2k in a savings account. If you need during ownership, use that.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - skidpan

We had a 118D for 6 1/2 years. We loved it, great to drive, reasonable to service and reliable.

Only problems we had were a battery at 2 years 364 days (seemed OK to us but dealer said it was EOL and replaced it under warranty) and broken front spring at 5 1/2 years.

After the 2nd service (car was 4 years old) it went to our local a very good BMW indy (only about 1 mile away) and he was even more reasonable than the BMW garage. Over 6 1/2 years it cost about £800 to service plus cost of spring, over 5 years Kia Ceed cost about £900 to service.

I did an oil change between services using my Pela device, only cost me 5 litres of BMW 04 long life oil each time, cheap way of keeping the engine tip top.

I would have replaced it with another 1 series but the Seat Leon we bought was a much better buy at the time. When we bought the current Superb we were seriously considering a 3 series Tourer but the 3 local(ish) dealers let us down badly with regards to test drive arrangements, if you cannot trust them whilst you still have your money what happens after. The dealer we bought the 1 series from was great but they moved to a new glass palace, got rid of the knowledgeable sales and service staff and increased prices, surely not a way to operate a business.

Will probably consider a BMW in the future hoping the dealers have upped their game. At least we have a very good local indy to do the service work.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - badbusdriver

I don't want a BMW for prestige, but may be a great driving experience. I am not a boy racer.... I want something great to drive.

It is doubtful the handling benefits of rwd over fwd are going to be apparent with a more modest power output, I'd suggest you'd need 200bhp or more on a 3 Series as young as 2015. Furthermore, you'd really need to be pushing on to fully appreciate it.

Apparently 6 cyl petrols are the most reliable with 4 cyl diesels the least.

A Series that young does nowt for me I'm afraid, but something a bit older might perk my interest. Such as this 1 owner(!) E36 328i on Autotrader

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:-)

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - madf

Round here, you don't drive a BMW if it is snowy or icy unless you have winter tyres.

RWD and snow are not fun - even with driving aids- if you have no traction. Especially on hills.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - Hoping
I owned a 330D 2005, I liked the car but cost me a fortune at 80,000 when everything went wrong. It was well looked after but had horrific problems. I also had 330e company car and I didn’t like the way it drove it had terrible tyre roar as well. I wouldn’t be swayed by marketing if you want one but go with your eyes open. I always wanted an Alfa, brought a Guila with my heart and sold it after 2 years as it was brilliant to drive better than BMW but cost me a fortune at 40,000! I now own a Toyota! ???????
2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - paul 1963

I've had 3 BMW's over the years starting with a 316 ( 1800cc confusingly) then a 525E ( again, confusingly really a 2.7) and finally a 325, all apart from the 325 where fantastic, the 325 was positively dangerous in the wet, understeered everywhere!

I must admit they were all relatively simple cars compared to recent models and I did do all my own maintenance but they never gave any real trouble..

Edit: just remembered I bought the 5 series knowing it had gear box trouble, bought a second hand box and spent a entire bank holiday weekend changing it, not sure I could do it now?

Personally I think a modern BMW could be a lovely thing to own but you really need to sure its been looked after, if you ever do need parts use GSF ( German, Swedish and French) for bits, most BMW stuff, especially electronic or electrical is Bosch in a BMW box.

Another Edit: Despite what others say just look at the amount them around especially those with the 2 litre diesel engine, couple of people I know, one with a 120D another with a 320D have never had a moments trouble, trouble is it only takes a reported couple of problems with a certain engine for the Internet to condem them all, take the 1.25 pure tech or the ford ecoboost for example .

Edited by paul 1963 on 22/02/2023 at 20:07

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - Xileno

A friend has a 535d F11, it's old now (2011) but even when newer he had a fair number of issues but all covered by the extended warranty. It's very comfortable and fast so I can see the attraction.

I think I read a comment on here that BMW spare parts are not more than many other makes now so if you combine that with using a good independent then costs should be acceptable.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - badbusdriver

Despite what others say just look at the amount them around especially those with the 2 litre diesel engine, couple of people I know, one with a 120D another with a 320D have never had a moments trouble, trouble is it only takes a reported couple of problems with a certain engine for the Internet to condem them all, take the 1.25 pure tech or the ford ecoboost for example .

It is not about condemnation, it is about knowledge and playing the odds. Buying any used car is a lottery to some extent, but (if you want to) you can increase the odds in your favour by avoiding cars/engines/gearboxes which have more than their fair share of failures. This is particularly so if buying used because it is often the case that problems can be avoided by diligent servicing and in some cases (particularly DCT auto's) by the car having been driven with some mechanical sympathy. A service history may well tell you how often the oil was changed, but will it tell you exactly which oil was used?. And a V5 may tell you how many previous owners the car has had, but it certainly won't tell you how those previous owners drove the car.

And BTW, it works the other way round too. You knowing two people who have had no problems with their 2.0 diesel BMW's in no way shape or form proves that they are reliable and trouble free on the whole. I'm sure there are owners of Mazda's with the 2.2 diesel out there who have had no trouble at all, but even if I knew some of them personally, I still wouldn't recommend anyone else buy a Mazda 2.2 diesel.

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - Warning

I did more digging. The BMW I was interested has a N20 engine.

According to Wiki:

Class action lawsuit alleging timing chain guide failures

It has been well documented in online forums, that thousands of early production N20 engines were manufactured with faulty internal plastic timing chain guides. Evidence indicates that defective polycarbonate compositions were utilized in the manufacturing process for the timing chain guide, and as a result over a very short period of time the rigid plastic guides would break down and deteriorate in the engine with little or no warning.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N20

I don't know if the issue is resolved in the 2015 model I was looking at or a design flaw.

Edited by Warning on 23/02/2023 at 13:43

2015 BMW with 3 year warantee? - badbusdriver

I did more digging. The BMW I was interested has a N20 engine.

According to Wiki:

Class action lawsuit alleging timing chain guide failures

It has been well documented in online forums, that thousands of early production N20 engines were manufactured with faulty internal plastic timing chain guides. Evidence indicates that defective polycarbonate compositions were utilized in the manufacturing process for the timing chain guide, and as a result over a very short period of time the rigid plastic guides would break down and deteriorate in the engine with little or no warning.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N20

I don't know if the issue is resolved in the 2015 model I was looking at or a design flaw.

Ignoring my personal feeling on them (BMW's) in general, i wouldn't go anywhere near this without confirmation that the age of car you were looking at was not affected.

If you really fancy 3 Series, maybe a BMW forum would be the best place to ask about pro's and con's of the various versions?