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Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - gold.juli

Hi there! How are you?

I am Julia, and honestly I need a piece of advice. I am a new manager of a Japanese car company. It works with many countries, so I need to choose places to import cars to. From your point of view, what cars might be relevant for the UK and, in general, should I try to offer cars to clients from the UK? I know that there are some English auctions as well…

Anyway, it would be great to hear your opinion about importing used cars from Japan. I will appreciate it a lot, as it’s my new job and I try to do all my best.

By the way, the name of the company is Carvector.
Have a good day, guys :)

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - badbusdriver

Immediately a little suspicious of this post!.

But there does appear to be a company of that name who deal with JDM cars. So giving the benefit of the doubt, surely the most obvious thing to do would be to look at the tock of existing long established JDM import companies in the UK?. If they have been around for a long time, then clearly what they are taking in is what sells.

My own opinion?, I'm much more interested in kei car's than any other JDM import. I think I'm very much in the minority though, otherwise other JDM import specialists would stock more of them but they don't.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - nellyjak

Immediately a little suspicious of this post!.

But there does appear to be a company of that name who deal with JDM cars. So giving the benefit of the doubt, surely the most obvious thing to do would be to look at the tock of existing long established JDM import companies in the UK?. If they have been around for a long time, then clearly what they are taking in is what sells.

My own opinion?, I'm much more interested in kei car's than any other JDM import. I think I'm very much in the minority though, otherwise other JDM import specialists would stock more of them but they don't.

Agree.....check out what the main current importers are selling and go from there.

MPV's like the Estima/Voxy/Alphard/Hiace etc.seem consistently popular though I agree with BBD that kei cars have an appeal.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - gold.juli

Hello, Nellyjak :)

Thanks for your opinion, I really appreciate it.

What do you think about importing cars from Japan? Is it a good idea to try to find new costumes in the UK? It would be helpful for me know wether it's interesting for your country or not

Thanks!

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - nellyjak

Hello, Nellyjak :)

Thanks for your opinion, I really appreciate it.

What do you think about importing cars from Japan? Is it a good idea to try to find new costumes in the UK? It would be helpful for me know wether it's interesting for your country or not

Thanks!

costumes.?...I assume you mean customers.?

"grey imports" as they are often referred to in the UK have always been treated cautiously here.

Although numbers have increased much over the recent years as people find they usually represent really good value for money.....but many fear the potential issues of parts/servicing/insurance etc....even though it's rarely problematic.

I've had my own imported V6 Toyota Estima for 7 years now and it's been utterly reliable and a joy to own.

People also have the concern that the motor trade here usually do not have service/repair information for models that were never officially imported to the UK and are often reluctant to help.

So I would say that there is still an inherent reluctance here for buying imports although it would be true to say that it has certainly improved quite a lot.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - JonestHon

I am not surprise at all that Japanese market MPV's are surging in popularity.

If you stop and think about it, the Euro makers abandoned the MPV market and even if you still find some, the like-to-like specs are not there anymore.

If you want a petrol driven MPV with good power output, no turbos and traditional fluid coupling auto box this is the only outlet. These imported MPV's are usually configured at a luxuary spec with flexible seating arrangements for no extra cost as a used example.

I know of few people around us who opted for the above and couldn't be happier with the choice.

I would take a V6 Alphard any day over a converted van from VW etc'.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - groaver

My own opinion?, I'm much more interested in kei car's than any other JDM import. I think I'm very much in the minority though, otherwise other JDM import specialists would stock more of them but they don't.

I'm with you on this one.

I've had a Cappuccino and would love a S660.

Kei cars are brilliant.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - gold.juli

Hello! Thanks for your reply :)

I agree that the easiest thing for me was to check what others companies sell... But honestly, I would like to know the opinion of customers. I think it's important for a manager to know what they prefer more. Maybe my question wasn't so well explained.

I also wanted to know wether people in the UK are interested or not in importing cars from Japan (not only Japanese cars but also European ones). Does it make any interest for you?..

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - gordonbennet

There will always be a customer that wants something different, ie Toyota stopped importing Camry and proper Landcruisers even the odd Century would be welcome, not everyone wants something loaded with naff electronics that break down and either can't be repaired or cost silly money to put right, good quality componenents is where Toyota have always been a leader, yes they can get it wrong now and again but rare instances.

The big attraction of cars from Japan is the condtion of the underbody because they haven't seen road salt, so you find 10/15 year old Landcruisers with chassis that are completely rust free, plus Japanese owners seem to look after their cars better overall than the typical Brit, its the fetish for road salt in Britain that causes the scrapping of so many vehicles, not just body/chassis corrosion but the salt gets into wiring connectors sensors lights etc and destroys them too, getting a good ex Japanese car can mean your are starting from fresh corrosion wise without having to buy the bland increasingly overtechnical offerings that UK car buyers have to choose from, increasingly dependent on battery power of some sort, battery power isn't what all of us want, the availability of ex Japan cars gives us another option to keep mobile in cars we actually want rather than be forced into something some us don't want and more to the point will not be forced into.

Yes there can be some European cars that make superb ex Japan imports, one importer about 5 or 6 years ago was selling several of the wonderful Merc W124 E500, one of the most iconic cars of the late last century, the later facelift model that didn't get imported to Britain, again these were low mileage 15+ year old cars that had never seen salt, literally in as good condition all over as they rolled off the production line.

You'll have gathered from this that for many of us the sweet spot in vehicle design and production was the 90's through to the late noughties, we have no desire for and no wish to buy the latest bland eurobox, so if its possible to buy, at reasonable price, good cars from that sweet era that have never been attacked by road salt we'll come and buy them.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - skidpan

Although numbers have increased much over the recent years

Don't agree with that comment. Back in the 90's Mazda Eunos, Mitsubishi small coupe (whatever it was called) and Pajero were very popular round her and there were at least 3 garages that specialised in them. I know several people who bought them and all were satisfied but one did have issues when his needed plugging into the diagnostics, the local dealers machine simply spat out a load of gibberish and he had to travel well over 100 miles to a chap who had the kit, not convenient.

Now you rarely see a grey import and the garages that sold them are either supermarkets or sell other brands. I know of no one with a grey import.

In 1992 I sold my first Caterham to one of the importers for way more than I could get over here. He sent the cars to Japan where he had customers waiting. Allegedly he had Yakuza connections and his huge body guard/chauffer/translator only made this seem more likely. Paid by bank transfer and collected car by transporter the same day.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - nellyjak

Now you rarely see a grey import and the garages that sold them are either supermarkets or sell other brands. I know of no one with a grey import.

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Don't agree with that comment.

I see many more grey imports now than when I first had my Estima 7 years ago and the number of Estima/Alphard/Stepwagon etc. models you can find for sale has noticeably increased...so somebody must be buying them.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - Xileno

Proximity to specialists might explain any regional differences. Availability of spares and knowledgeable garages to work on slightly unusual vehicles could be a factor.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - badbusdriver

Yes there can be some European cars that make superb ex Japan imports, one importer about 5 or 6 years ago was selling several of the wonderful Merc W124 E500, one of the most iconic cars of the late last century, the later facelift model that didn't get imported to Britain, again these were low mileage 15+ year old cars that had never seen salt, literally in as good condition all over as they rolled off the production line.

Ah, back when Mercedes made cars for people who appreciated terms like "understated", "elegance" and "tasteful".........

Came upon an outfit called The Car Warehouse several months ago. As well as some of the usual (and some more obscure) JDM imports, they have some European machines imported from Japan. This includes a 1999 Opel Vectra i500 (2.5V6, 195PS) estate with 11.5k miles and a 2000 Golf GTI 1.8t auto (a combination we never got) with 14k miles!. Also some nice Volvo's and the usual German "prestige" trio (sadly no W124's though).

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - gold.juli

Hello, gordonbennet!

Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation and opinion, I really appreciate it.

Definitely Japanese cars are of good conditions because of absence of salt and other reagents on the roads. Also Japanese are usually take care of their autos a lot as it's the feature of their culture of being neat, I think :)

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - RT

Hello! Thanks for your reply :)

I agree that the easiest thing for me was to check what others companies sell... But honestly, I would like to know the opinion of customers. I think it's important for a manager to know what they prefer more. Maybe my question wasn't so well explained.

I also wanted to know wether people in the UK are interested or not in importing cars from Japan (not only Japanese cars but also European ones). Does it make any interest for you?..

There is an opportunity to import specifically requested models not normally sold in UK - for me, a VW Touareg V8 TDi would be great.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - movilogo

UK does not get many good Japanese cars which are already mentioned earlier.

My personal favourites are Toyota Estima and Vellfire.

One word of caution though. Although these cars are fairly reliable, they do still need occasional maintenance. Toyota UK won't help on JDM import cars (I asked them) so customers will be of their own when things to wrong.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - JonestHon

Like you said, a fairly simple set of mechanics.

My understanding speaking with owners is that although parts are not the quickest to source, local garages see these as 'old designs' and are easy to work on, not sure what will you need from Toyota /Nissan/Honda/Mazda UK to do about older imported vehicles?

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - gordonbennet

Diagnostics on Toyotas is not an issue, anyone fairly mechanically minded can get Techstream via the usual auction site for under £30, that will interrogate alomst every Toyota made with an OBD plug.

Even if you didn't want to do the job yourself, any competent mechanic could use your Techstream info to diagnose and fix issues, program injectors in code keys etc.

Prados/Landcruisers are a good bet, very rare will you find an engine/transmission that hasn't ben fitted over half the world including Britain.

V6 petrols may well have been seen in Camry's or similar, the things with these cars is they were designed to be reliable and durable for many years.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - Warning

I did ponder the idea of buying an Estima, you get a lot of car for your money. It looked unusual to me. I changed my mind over concerns over servicing, insurance etc...

A car may need conversion for the UK?

I guess, the models which may be of interest would be ones not available in the UK or used models which are cheaper then those being sold in the UK.

For me it would be a family hatchback, which many manufacturers have stopped making. I don't know if they still sell them in Japan.....

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - badbusdriver

I did ponder the idea of buying an Estima, you get a lot of car for your money. It looked unusual to me. I changed my mind over concerns over servicing, insurance etc...

If you take an Estima since you mentioned it, ignoring the hybrid version, the two engines are a n/a 2.4 4cyl or a n/a 3.0 V6. As both were available on various Toyota's which were sold in the UK, there is no reason servicing should cause any issues. Insurance?, well if you didn't actually go as far as getting a quote, then you can't say one way or another if the cost was going to be a factor.

A car may need conversion for the UK?

Yes, but having a rear foglight fitted is hardly going to be too much of a challenge. Plus, if buying from a UK JDM import specialist (which you ought to anyway) any work (including underseal) will already have been done.

I guess, the models which may be of interest would be ones not available in the UK or used models which are cheaper then those being sold in the UK.

A JDM import is never going to be cheaper than whatever the nearest UK equivalent is. If approaching one with the idea you are getting a bargain, you will be disappointed. Going back to the Estima again, a £10k example is going to be much older than a full sized UK market MPV. Though it will almost certainly be more reliable and better equipped.

For me it would be a family hatchback, which many manufacturers have stopped making. I don't know if they still sell them in Japan.....

Unless looking for a very well preserved example of an older family hatchback, there would be no point or financial benefit in doing so.

Import from Japan, what cars are better to import? - nellyjak

I did ponder the idea of buying an Estima, you get a lot of car for your money. It looked unusual to me. I changed my mind over concerns over servicing, insurance etc...

If you take an Estima since you mentioned it, ignoring the hybrid version, the two engines are a n/a 2.4 4cyl or a n/a 3.0 V6. As both were available on various Toyota's which were sold in the UK, there is no reason servicing should cause any issues. Insurance?, well if you didn't actually go as far as getting a quote, then you can't say one way or another if the cost was going to be a factor.

A car may need conversion for the UK?

Yes, but having a rear foglight fitted is hardly going to be too much of a challenge. Plus, if buying from a UK JDM import specialist (which you ought to anyway) any work (including underseal) will already have been done.

I guess, the models which may be of interest would be ones not available in the UK or used models which are cheaper then those being sold in the UK.

A JDM import is never going to be cheaper than whatever the nearest UK equivalent is. If approaching one with the idea you are getting a bargain, you will be disappointed. Going back to the Estima again, a £10k example is going to be much older than a full sized UK market MPV. Though it will almost certainly be more reliable and better equipped.

For me it would be a family hatchback, which many manufacturers have stopped making. I don't know if they still sell them in Japan.....

Unless looking for a very well preserved example of an older family hatchback, there would be no point or financial benefit in doing so.

Agree with BBD's comments....I've never had any service/parts issues in the 7 years I've had my V6 Estima...the "UK" Camry had the same engine (1MZ-FE).

The benefits IMO are the luxury/build quality/reliability but as BBD says, the vehicle will be older. In my experience that certainly is not a problem.

I'd put my 20 year old 100k mile Estima against the majority of 5/7 year old "UK/Euro" vehicles and challenge anyone to see any difference...particularly underneath.(which would no doubt be better and consistently goes through MOT's every year with no advisories. !)

I've insured through AF every year at a cost of around £300 fully comp...there are many places you can go to for insurance in the UK.