A £5 k car is on the way out isn’t it?
Of course not!, you sound like my mother in law!
She very much believes all new cars are reliable and all old cars (10 years plus) are unreliable!. That view is way, way too simplistic, it completely ignores that fact that some cars are inherently more reliable than others, and completely ignores the possibility of any difference in reliability between a well looked after car and a neglected one.
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<< That view is way, way too simplistic, it completely ignores that fact that some cars are inherently more reliable than others, and completely ignores the possibility of any difference in reliability between a well looked after car and a neglected one. >>
And even that ignores another variable - individual conceptions of 'unreliability'. Some are happy to accept the odd quirk or niggle, while others find them so annoying they can't help looking for a different car ....
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A £5 k car is on the way out isn’t it?
Of course not!, you sound like my mother in law!
She very much believes all new cars are reliable and all old cars (10 years plus) are unreliable!. That view is way, way too simplistic, it completely ignores that fact that some cars are inherently more reliable than others, and completely ignores the possibility of any difference in reliability between a well looked after car and a neglected one.
She sounds Taiwanese.
Mind you, Taiwanese are probably right to ignore the possibility of any difference in reliability between a well looked after car and a neglected one, due to the low probability of finding a Taiwanese who has looked after a car well.
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A £5 k car is on the way out isn’t it?
Of course not!, you sound like my mother in law!
She very much believes all new cars are reliable and all old cars ........ are unreliable!. That view is way, way too simplistic, it completely ignores that fact that some cars are inherently more reliable than others, and completely ignores the possibility of any difference in reliability between a well looked after car and a neglected one.
Bit like people, really. '..am I going to die...?' 'yes'. Although some cars are apparently immortal.....
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Although some cars are apparently immortal.....
My uncle has a Morris 8 which, if memory serves, was made in the late 30's
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Although some cars are apparently immortal.....
My uncle has a Morris 8 which, if memory serves, was made in the late 30's
Does he drive it ?
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Although some cars are apparently immortal.....
My uncle has a Morris 8 which, if memory serves, was made in the late 30's
Does he drive it ?
Yes, he drives it to all the local classic car shows. Doesn't have time for "trailer queens", so he makes a point of this!.
Maybe not for much longer though as he is in very poor health.
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The things about reliability and longevity is you have to take into account how much you use the car.
Put simply, all other things being equal, a car doing 2000 miles a year will almost certainly last longer than one doing 20,000.
That applies to budgets as well. It is relatively easy to find a £5k car which if you do 1500 miles a year in it stands a good chance of lasting 5 years without major incident even if it had 120k on the clock when you bought it. Do 25k a year in it and that is obviously more challenging.
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The things about reliability and longevity is you have to take into account how much you use the car.
Put simply, all other things being equal, a car doing 2000 miles a year will almost certainly last longer than one doing 20,000.
That applies to budgets as well. It is relatively easy to find a £5k car which if you do 1500 miles a year in it stands a good chance of lasting 5 years without major incident even if it had 120k on the clock when you bought it. Do 25k a year in it and that is obviously more challenging.
Short journeys with lots of stopping and starting where the car is never getting up to temperature are much worse for it than long journeys at a steady speed where the car is in its optimum operating window.
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Well, just an update but I spent the morning ringing garages and one told me that they wouldn't do the head gasket on a fiesta because after being repaired the fault may still be present and the others have a 2-3 week wait before they can even look at it.
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Another update. I just dropped it at a garage and the mechanic doesn't think its a head gasket issue because it isn't losing coolant and the oil looks okay. He thinks it's firing on 3 rather than 4 cylinders, hope he's right because he said that's less expensive to fix
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Another update. I just dropped it at a garage and the mechanic doesn't think its a head gasket issue because it isn't losing coolant and the oil looks okay. He thinks it's firing on 3 rather than 4 cylinders, hope he's right because he said that's less expensive to fix
Fingers crossed then!
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He thinks it's firing on 3 rather than 4 cylinders, hope he's right because he said that's less expensive to fix
Fingers crossed indeed. The difficulty is that the symptoms of HG failure can vary with where the failure is - which galleries have been connected. The CO2 sniffer method or compression test can give false indications.
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The things about reliability and longevity is you have to take into account how much you use the car.
Put simply, all other things being equal, a car doing 2000 miles a year will almost certainly last longer than one doing 20,000.
That applies to budgets as well. It is relatively easy to find a £5k car which if you do 1500 miles a year in it stands a good chance of lasting 5 years without major incident even if it had 120k on the clock when you bought it. Do 25k a year in it and that is obviously more challenging.
Short journeys with lots of stopping and starting where the car is never getting up to temperature are much worse for it than long journeys at a steady speed where the car is in its optimum operating window.
Yes, to a certain extent, but I can assure you the average car with 200k on it will still be considerably more knackered and have needed much more maintenance work to get there than the average one of the same age with 30k on the clock.
If you buy a car with 125k on it and run it for 5 years all other things being equal do you think it'll be a better car at the end with 250k on the clock having done 25k pa or with 135k having done 2k pa?
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The things about reliability and longevity is you have to take into account how much you use the car.
Put simply, all other things being equal, a car doing 2000 miles a year will almost certainly last longer than one doing 20,000.
That applies to budgets as well. It is relatively easy to find a £5k car which if you do 1500 miles a year in it stands a good chance of lasting 5 years without major incident even if it had 120k on the clock when you bought it. Do 25k a year in it and that is obviously more challenging.
Short journeys with lots of stopping and starting where the car is never getting up to temperature are much worse for it than long journeys at a steady speed where the car is in its optimum operating window.
Yes, to a certain extent, but I can assure you the average car with 200k on it will still be considerably more knackered and have needed much more maintenance work to get there than the average one of the same age with 30k on the clock.
If you buy a car with 125k on it and run it for 5 years all other things being equal do you think it'll be a better car at the end with 250k on the clock having done 25k pa or with 135k having done 2k pa?
Not sure where these numbers are coming from, or their relevance, seeing as nobody has suggested the OP buy a car with 100K+ miles, never mind 200k. And while the OP has not indicated their annual miles, there is nothing to suggest that they will be doing 25k per annum.
But in order for me to answer the question, I'd need to know what king of car we are talking about, along with what engine and gearbox. The problem with making such sweeping statements is that it assumes all cars are the same in terms of reliability.
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Not sure where these numbers are coming from, or their relevance, seeing as nobody has suggested the OP buy a car with 100K+ miles, never mind 200k. And while the OP has not indicated their annual miles, there is nothing to suggest that they will be doing 25k per annum.
But in order for me to answer the question, I'd need to know what king of car we are talking about, along with what engine and gearbox. The problem with making such sweeping statements is that it assumes all cars are the same in terms of reliability.
I did say all other things being equal. And to go back to the original point all I am saying is the more you use a car the more toll it takes. Two people could buy the same make/model and one do 50k and one do 150k. The 50k one might declare it a stunningly reliable model and the 150k one not because they had a big bill at 120k. In truth it is probably neither.
Incidentally, at the price ranges mentioned the OP probably will be looking at a higher mileage car in the current market.
Edited by pd on 30/01/2023 at 21:04
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Apparently the "core plugs" were rotted so they were swapped, and a new coil pack added. Cost £210 in total and all seems good!
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If you buy a car with 125k on it and run it for 5 years all other things being equal do you think it'll be a better car at the end with 250k on the clock having done 25k pa or with 135k having done 2k pa?
All other things are never equal.
So I don't know.
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