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Diesel/petrol price differentials - Andrew-T

Passing my local filling station today I noticed that diesel was almost exactly 30p/litre more than petrol - I think it was 169 versus 139p. Any advance on that ? Not many cars will get better than 21% advantage in consumption to offset that.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - movilogo

Unless doing starship mileage or buying commercial vehicle, diesel does not make sense anymore when changing cars.

Having said that, I still not noticed used diesel cars selling cheap. They are still holding prices well.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - craig-pd130

The price difference is exaggerated at the moment because of diesel's traditional winter price hike, in previous years it has usually dropped back to within 10p or so of petrol in the spring.

It will be mildly interesting to see if it drops as much this year.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - Engineer Andy

Passing my local filling station today I noticed that diesel was almost exactly 30p/litre more than petrol - I think it was 169 versus 139p. Any advance on that ? Not many cars will get better than 21% advantage in consumption to offset that.

As bad as that differential is (my areas has consistently been around the 21-23p differential for many months now), 139p a litre for petrol is incredibly cheap compared to most of the country - my area's cheapest in 149p and the cheapest I knew of, outside of Costco (who subsidise their prices to get customers through the door) was 141.7p/L for petrol and 161.7p/L for diesel in Watford, which is normally a very competitive area for fuel and has lower distrubution costs as its not far from the Buncefield depot in Hemel.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - barney100

I have diesels for the good mpg but rightly or wrongly I think diesels last longer.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - Engineer Andy

I have diesels for the good mpg but rightly or wrongly I think diesels last longer.

It depends upon what design and make of diesel engine you have, as well as how it's used and how well it's maintained. Petrol enegines these days tend to be more hardy in comparison because they can tollerate a wider range of driving patterns. Common-rail turbo-diesels less so, however if they are used as originally intended, then there's no reason why they shouldn't last as long or longer.

Older designed diesel engines from the late 90s to 200s likle VAG's 1.9 are much less complicated on the emissions reduction front (maongst other things) and have been shown to go on and on if well maintained.

Even ones with a poor rep for reliability like the Mazda 2.2TD can go on and on without a problem if used predominantly for longer trips, serviiced properly and (hopefully) the few active DPF regens that take place are allowed to finish whilst the vehicle is in operation.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - Mickey McManus

Diesels used to be the preferred choice of mini cab drivers but that's changed significantly now. Not only have they been affected by DPF problems but hybrid cars have been seen to have pretty resilient engines, and are often more economical.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - Engineer Andy

Diesels used to be the preferred choice of mini cab drivers but that's changed significantly now. Not only have they been affected by DPF problems but hybrid cars have been seen to have pretty resilient engines, and are often more economical.

Proper hybrids (not 'mild' ones) are well suited to urban driving, especially as they bare also automatics, which probably makes driving them that much easier in heavy traffic - much less stressful for the taxi driver.

That cars are no longer allowed to idle in certain urban locations for pollution reasons also means hyrbids and PHEVs / full EVs have a big advantage in the urban setting, especially big cities.

Whilst DPFs have improved in terms of effectiveness, they are still far more geared towards longer distance driving, which is probably why the airport / extra-urban taxi drivers still often use diesels.

Round my way (small town in a rural area), most minicabs are still mid-sized diesels. I suspect though that the current relatively large disparity in prices in favour of petrol means that the mpg advantage over diesel has been negated, never mind hybrids. Pointless though a minicab driver changing car types unless they have to for the reasons above or its at the end of its viable life.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - sammy1

"""hat cars are no longer allowed to idle in certain urban locations for pollution reasons also means hyrbids and PHEVs / full EVs have a big advantage in the urban setting, especially big cities.

Try telling the local council employees and other drivers with company vehicles not to idle in this cold weather. All seem to have the old mentality of not turning off a diesel

Diesel/petrol price differentials - movilogo

diesels last longer.

Technically true but government will cut diesel life shorter by legislation.

Nowadays I rarely see any diesel taxi. Mostly hybrids and even some EVs!

Diesel/petrol price differentials - Engineer Andy

diesels last longer.

Technically true but government will cut diesel life shorter by legislation.

Nowadays I rarely see any diesel taxi. Mostly hybrids and even some EVs!

As I said, it depends upon where you live. The further away from bigger towns and especially cities you go, the more diesels and older taxis you see.

I agree about them partially being legislated out of existence as taxis - though mainly in those urban settings via ULEZs and other 'local' rules / bylaws.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - Engineer Andy

"""hat cars are no longer allowed to idle in certain urban locations for pollution reasons also means hyrbids and PHEVs / full EVs have a big advantage in the urban setting, especially big cities.

Try telling the local council employees and other drivers with company vehicles not to idle in this cold weather. All seem to have the old mentality of not turning off a diesel

To be fair, when you're freezing your c****** off waiting in sub-zero weather for any significant length of time for your supervisor to arrive, having some internal heating is a must, especially if there's no coffee shop etc nearby to frequent on the 'company dime' instead of your car or van.

I sometimes see plumbers doing this in the car parking area outside my flat block, because they've arrived early and their client hasn't got back home or 'isn't ready' (read still not dressed and having breakfast, abluting, etc).

As regards 'not turning off a diesel', it probably depends upon how long it's been on for beforehand - it's not as though they're in charge of an Intercity 125... :-)

Diesel/petrol price differentials - brambobb

Near where I live in West Yorkshire the price of diesel seems to be generally at a maximum of 179.9 p/l.

However there is one filling station on the A658 Harrogate to Leeds/Bradford airport road which is still charging 188.9. There must be a lot of people who just fill up without looking at the price.

Incidentally this station is charging 157.9 for unleaded so this gives a price differential of 31 pence, which is the largest I have seen.

Diesel/petrol price differentials - Engineer Andy

Near where I live in West Yorkshire the price of diesel seems to be generally at a maximum of 179.9 p/l.

However there is one filling station on the A658 Harrogate to Leeds/Bradford airport road which is still charging 188.9. There must be a lot of people who just fill up without looking at the price.

Incidentally this station is charging 157.9 for unleaded so this gives a price differential of 31 pence, which is the largest I have seen.

Taxi business for drivers who've forgotten to fill up before the busiest trade period of the day?

I've seen some out-of-the-way filling stations charge exorbitant levels, just because they know some locals either can't be bothered to drive another 10 miles (or more) to the next nearest filling station and back (especially farmers) or the 'caught short' who would rather get fuel there than stray off their route and get lost and run out of fuel, especially in the dark / poor weather. Add 15p a litre onto whatever the regional average.

I wonder what the prices and differentials are at present at motorway services filling stations - they are normally well above most others, sometimes even those 'middle of nowhere' rural filling stations.