I had a Venga 1.4 manual, about the same weight as the 2013-2019 proceed 3 dr 1.4 sr7.

Performance was perfectly adequate, if you want to keep your license..

I would have no hesitation about buying one, if that was what i wanted or needed.

The venga would pick up and go nicely when needed.

We travelled in Belgium and france with it and it kept up nicely with traffic then.

Edited by _ORB_ on 10/05/2022 at 08:16

Cannot comment about a modern Kia 1.4 turbo but feel I can make other worthwhile comments.

We have owned a 1.0 TSi 110 PS Fabia for 2 1/2 years now, its predecessors were a 1.8 Mk 2 Focus with 125 PS and before that a Mk 1 1.8 Focus with 115 PS. Not as big as the Mk 2 but not much smaller than the Mk 1, superminis have grown. The performance from the 1.0 TSi is much better than the larger non-turbo Fords, it still amazes me after 2 1/2 years. Its the torque that gives it this go and there is no lag provided you are over 2,000 rpm. The Fords did about 35 mpg, the Fabia has averaged about 48 mpg thus far.

Its a win win.

I had a Venga 1.4 manual, about the same weight as the 2013-2019 proceed 3 dr 1.4 sr7.

Performance was perfectly adequate, if you want to keep your license

When we bought the Mk 2 Focus we tried a Ceed 1.6 petrol which was supposed to have the same power as the Ford. I have no idea where they had hidden it at low revs, you really had to rag it to get the performance out of it. That car did very well as the Top Gear reasonably priced car but that was being thrashed on a track, the Fords were far better in the real world on the road.

I presume that the ProCeed that the OP is considering is the current much bigger version (coupe/estate type) since he wants an "estate" type car. No idea if that is available with the old 1.6, if it is I doubt its much of a performer. But like all Kia's of old will probably be quite thirsty. We looked at that car in our recent search, it ticked pretty much all of our boxes but owners reported poor economy and our chosen model (1.6 GDi-T DSG) has an Honest John real mpg of only 29.3 mpg. The 1.4t has a better figure of 37.4 mpg but that is some way off the Octavia 1.4 TSi 150 PS which has a figure of 48.5 mpg, about 30% better. All figures quoted are Honest John which I have always found to be close enough to the real world.

I suggest that the OP gets a drive in the Proceed 1.4T and then decides if its what he wants. Others brands are available, as I said above, the Octavia springs immediately to mind.

Sixty years ago our family Rover P4 produced just over 100hp which was enough for the handbook to contain the following advice - 'for sustained speeds above 90mph, inflate the tyres by an additional 4psi'. Sadly, speeds have declined as available power has increased, so we now have the absurd situation of 200+hp cars being very occasionally allowed to proceed at 70mph if the camera festooned dual carriageway is clear. I think you will find that any car with over 100hp can keep up with today's trundling traffic, even towing a small trailer, because it usually moves little faster than the ubiquitous speed limited lorries.