What do you think of the car otherwise?, I really fancy the new Jazz and was very close to choosing one (through Motability) rather than the Suzuki Ignis we ended up getting.

I've only had it a couple of weeks and haven't been able to drive it as much as I intended, due to being laid up with a bad back for several days.

Mine is an Ex spec Jazz so it has 16" wheels and 185/55R16 87H tyres, so the ride is a bit firmer than the SE and SR grades, but I find it acceptable.

The standard wheels are very plain alloys covered with large plastic trim pieces that look like fan blades. I didn't like them, so opted for the JA1601 alloys instead.

The seats are comfortable, although the front passenger seat has no height adjustment on any of the grades. The rear "magic seats" give a lot of flexibility for load carrying, but the boot is rather small, with only a small cubby hole under the boot floor (certainly no room for a spare wheel).

Visibility is excellent, especially looking forwards; the very slim A-pillars help reduce blind spots a lot.

The centre touchscreen is slightly angled towards the passenger instead of the driver and not being vertical means it can be more exposed to ambient light. Together these make reading the sat nav's map more difficult than it should be.

The drive system has three modes:

• Pure EV Drive - the high voltage battery drives the electric motor.
• Hybrid Drive - the ICE charges the high voltage battery which drives the electric motor.
• Engine Drive - a hydraulic clutch connects the ICE to directly drive the wheels.

It seamlessly switches between the modes as required. The ICE does get a bit noisy when it needs to work hard, but it is not as noisy as my previous car (Toyota C-HR 1.2T with CVT gearbox).

The computer says it has averaged about 62 mpg so far, but according to people on the owner's forum it does over-read. However, I haven't had to fill it up yet so haven't been able to do my own calculations.

On the whole, I'm very pleased with the car. I have only done a few local runs so far, but that is what it will be mainly used for. Hopefully, I will get used to the behaviour of the safety systems with time.

I couldn't tolerate a car telling me how to drive, bad enough when someone sitting in the passenger seat does it...

I suspect the main dealer could permanently disable it by plugging in their kit but at a charge of course and it might have interesting liability issues in the unfortunate event of an accident.

You can change the sensitivity setting on RDMS to minimise such problems.

Apparently you must use the indicators to stop the system intervening in situations like this, even when there are no other road users around.

But if drivers start indicating just to prevent this system intervening, that could send all sorts of misleading messages, not only to drivers but pedestrians waiting to cross (for example) who see the start of a 'left-turn' and draw the wrong conclusion ?

Its mandated by the EU.

They know better.

Do not argue.

A friend of mine has a newish Audi A4 that nearly caused an accident. He was driving into town with a bus behind him. A lady at a bus stop lent forward a bit and stuck her arm out to stop the bus. His A4 then automatically did a full on emergency stop nearly causing the bus to rear end him.

I await to hear the manufacturer's excuse to why they didn't account for such an eventuality on their 'amazing' system...

As with all computerised stuff, especially those controlled via complex software with multiple sensors, its rubbish (data) in, rubbish (result) out.

I learned that whilst I was at college. Computers are just tools - they ain't Mr Data or KITT and are still very limited in what they can do, and by the quality of those building/programming them. The Real World is a very dynamic place, far more than a lab or test track.

And to think that some of our betters think that self-drive cars should be introduced now or very soon...

I have read all these posts and first post that initiated the thread has it spot on. The road departure system makes my new Honda Jazz Crosstar a turkey and I regret buying it. I live in the countryside and if I leave it active it operates to danger on every journey. The narrow roads have few road markings and Ill-defined road margins. Potholes are so bad you often have to depart from the normal line. Yes you do have to fight the steering wheel. Not only does it veer towards danger but it vibrates violently. Absolute nightmare dont buy, or if you do prepare to switch ithe road departure system off at every engine stop. This entails pressing a button by your knees which is not lit at night. Pressing a selector on the steering wheel twice then another roller iselector then the steering wheel selector again twice to obtain your preferred display. Every time you start the engine.Absolute nightmare. Should have saved up for the VW

There is no directly comparable VW to the Jazz Crosstar, but you could definately have got a Polo with the 110PS 1.0TSI engine for less, so you wouldn't have needed to save up more, just make a different choice.

Also, all makes and models these days have this type of safety systems, for better or worse. So unless you have driven a VW (on the same type of roads) and find theirs less intrusive, you don't know that it would actually be any better.

Snap!

Within 2 weeks of buying my Hybrid CRV I have turned the annoying Road Departure & other electronic wizardry off.

Car runs just like any other auto I have driven in the last 59 years.

Quite happy now - the 1st 2 weeks were "tricky"

That's how it is with the Honda Jazz, 2024 edition. resets to on when the ignition is turned off. Need then to go through multiple menu layers to chanbge it again. Oh for a switch!