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MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - NER

Hi, so the car front wheels seem to have a mind of their own, they follow any groves within the road, today i have also noticed inner Tyre wear on the drivers side do you think the wheel alignment is out?

Edited by N Rickards on 24/04/2020 at 10:08

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - Peter.N.

If the wear is only on one side that won't be tracking. What sort of condition are the tyres in? which side of the tyre is wearing and is there inay indication of excessive wear on the other tyre same side. (inner or outer)

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - focussed

If both fronts are worn on the inside shoulders of the tread it's a sign of speed hump damage caused by straddling speed humps or cushions as they are sometimes called.

Don't straddle them, put one wheel in the gap between them and ride the other wheel over the hump.

Some friends of our with a Mitsi Outlander had this problem tread on the inside shoulders destroyed nearly down to the plys, she had just retired from an NHS hospital where the car park was full of these horrible humps and yes she had been straddling them.

Edited by focussed on 27/04/2020 at 22:50

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - thunderbird

If both fronts are worn on the inside shoulders of the tread it's a sign of speed hump damage caused by straddling speed humps or cushions as they are sometimes called.

Urban myth. Been straddling speed cushions for many, many years and never had uneven tyre wear.

But there again, some believe Supermarket petrol causes engine damage.

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - Cris_on_the_gas

Basic question but have you checked tyre pressures ?

What are make of tyres, are they Ditchfinders supplied by well known retailer Skidmore Tyres ?

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - focussed

Urban mythbuster!

The proof? The friend's wife who now doesn't have to negotiate dozens of speed humps a day in a large hospital car park because she retired, now doesn't have tyres shredded on the inner shoulders - the car does a lot of miles and is on the second set of tyres after that incident.

You believe in your urban myth and I'll believe in cause and effect!

Edited by focussed on 01/05/2020 at 23:15

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - thunderbird

Urban mythbuster!

The proof? The friend's wife who now doesn't have to negotiate dozens of speed humps a day in a large hospital car park because she retired, now doesn't have tyres shredded on the inner shoulders - the car does a lot of miles and is on the second set of tyres after that incident.

You believe in your urban myth and I'll believe in cause and effect!

Read what i said in my post

"Urban myth. Been straddling speed cushions for many, many years and never had uneven tyre wear."

If it was really an issue I would have expected to see uneven wear over the last 20 years or so since speed cushions were installed.

There are many reasons for uneven tyre wear and from my personal experience over that 20+ years and many 1000's of miles (probably over 300,000 miles in our 2 cars) I suspect we would have experienced it.

But our cars are always properly maintained. Is your friends wifes car?

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - focussed

"But our cars are always properly maintained. Is your friends wifes car?"

Yes he always takes it to his local trusted indy.when he was in the UK.

I just googled it and guess who came up?

"You are doing the right thing. Drivers who straddle these things cause serious abrasion to the inner shoulders of their tyres that can lead to blowouts and because the damage is to the inner shoulders it is not seen."

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answer/66969/do-speed-humps-cause-tyre-damage-

The story was that they had recently arrived in France after we had been there 3 or 4 years and he asked me to help him check the front brakes as he thought the pads must need doing.

So we had the wheels off and found the pads were thin and I noticed the state of the inner shoulders of the tyres, so off he went to get some tyres and I ordered some pads for him and I fitted them a week or so later. That was when I asked her (it's her car) if she had been over a lot of speed humps and she confirmed that the hospital car park and approaches was full of them "just like here in France" - and they are the horrible plastic nailed down ones with sharp angled edges.

So there you go.

Edited by focussed on 02/05/2020 at 21:05

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - Andrew-T

I suspect there are more variables here than just the presence or absence of speed humps - the quality of the tyres and the car's suspension, for example.

Many years ago a friend noticed a peculiar wear pattern on the tyres of his Jeep SUV (I think it was). I don't know the final explanation he got, but it took a long time to work out, and it wasn't to do with speed humps.

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - thunderbird

Lets be honest here, a Mavira A is at least 10 years old and during that time we have no idea how its been treated or maintained, its possible its been through a hedge or two in its time. If the suspension components ore original its reasonable to assume the rubber bushes are well worn which will allow the geometry to be well outside the manufacturers quoted even without any knocks. The fact that the wear is on one corner only suggests to me that corner has taken a hit, even if the tracking is correct other factors will cause uneven wear.

For Focussed to suggest that my experience is meaningless is suggesting I am simply without experience. The facts I have quoted are my facts, the "facts" Focussed has quoted are those of a friend wife. Thus mine are first hand and his are 3rd hand, need I say any more. I am there when I drive and I know how the wife drives. Does Focussed have extensive experience of how his friends wife drives or is he just assuming she is perfect?

As for posting a link to honest John when we all know he has had some weird ideas over the years does not in any way help. Just think what he has supported, expensive fuels when we all know they are exactly the same with mysterious unproven bits added, left foot braking when we all know this causes accidents especially amongst the elderly and now speed humps. He has been a supporter of Michelin Cross Climate tyres for several years but I have only bought all season tyres now since about 2010. Local indy suggested Kleber Quadraxer to me for the Focus (205 55 16) and since they were cheaper than the OEM Contis (noisy and wore fast) I gave them a go. Brilliant, quiet, lasted twice the mileage and rode really well. Take a look at them and wonder why HJ never mentioned them. Kleber is a sister company to Michelin and the current Quadraxer tyres look pretty much identical, the rating label is identical. Difference is the price, the Kleber is about 20% cheaper. As an supposed supporter of the motorist why did he not suggest them, any suggestions welcome. I will be buying them when I need new tyres without a doubt (assuming the size is available).

So OP, have you had the car thoroughly checked over, a free diagnosis on the internet is no substitute for an experienced mechanic who can actually work on the vehicle.

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - gordonbennet

Might be alignment related, might be worn joints or bushes in the front suspension, no point in getting the alignment done if a soft bush(es) is/are being compressed by the typical forces attempting to push your wheels back whilst motoring along, a good alignment chap will check for such wear before setting the tracking up.

A simple and effective test for worn bushes (BMW's a prime example of this) is to apply the parking brake then grip the outside of each front wheel and attempt to roll the car forwards and backwards, there should be minimal movement but if you have worn bushes you can see forwards backwards movement of the wheel of up several inches in relation to the wheelarch, try this as well as the normal test of attempting to turn the wheels both ways to determine steering system wear.

Also check for worn dampers etc.

If nothing is found it can be illuminating to get someone to drive your car whilst you follow them on multiple road surfaces, particularly undulating roads, sometimes difficult to diagnose steering/suspension issues can become obvious when you watch how the car behaves as it goes along, ie is the vehicle crabbing so possibly its a problem at the back end, this isn't so easy to spot stationary but always worth measuring the wheelbase both sides and also measure the position of wheels within the arches both sides.

Edited by gordonbennet on 03/05/2020 at 10:24

MerivaA - Drivers Front Wheel inner Tyre wear - Andrew-T

I would have thought the going-over a car gets in a proper MoT test ought to show up any wear of the kind you are suggesting, GB ?