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Van man - SLO76
Having been a bit of a Jack of all trades master on none I’ve had a large number of different jobs over the years and with them many small car derived vans, some of which were terrible and some excellent. I do miss the convenience of having a small van but I currently have no need. Here’s a wee list of them over the years and my views.


85 B Hyundai Pony Pickup known as Harry Hyundai. This thing was awful in every way. Terrible to drive, downright dangerous brakes and unreliable to boot. I hated every moment of driving it.

90 H Toyota Liteace 1.5 - Lethal handling, almost as if each wheel was pulling in a different direction. Slow and noisy but tough and reliable.

93 L Toyota Liteace Mk II 2.0D - What a difference, a genuinely great wee van.

90 H Mitsubishi L200 2.5D - Tough as old boots, never went wrong but rear brakes locked up as soon as you looked at the pedal.

93 L Vauxhall Astra 1.7D - Great motorway pounder.

81 W Renault 4 GTL 1.1 - Brilliantly weird and surprisingly comfortable and very reliable but sadly it had holes in the floor by its 5th birthday so it had to go.

86 D Renault Extra 1.4 - Great wee van, kept it 14yrs and it suffered no major failures.

00 X Renault Kangoo 1.9 - Should’ve been great with simple old tech engine and well designed interior but it kept suffering electrical faults and went at 6yrs.

06 06 Renault Kangoo 1.5dci - Great wee engine, a vast improvement on the 1.9. Went well, had loads of extras but sadly electrical faults aplenty and a bad knock from the steering rack or front suspension that the useless local Dealer couldn’t solve despite two new racks and three suspension strip downs. I needed to rely on it so it had to go.

2007 57 VW Caddy SDi - Best wee van I’ve ever had. No complexity, simple normally aspirated diesel motor and no gadgets, it suffered a badly juddering clutch at 24k and just before its warranty was up and VW replaced it and the input shaft seal for free which was great. My phone rang constantly when I advertised this for sale, I wish I had a constant supply of them.


Van man - elekie&a/c doctor
My family has always had some kind of van since the 60s. Starting with a Bedford Ca , Ford Thames 400e followed by a few car derivatives. A Minivan , Commer Cob . Then onto an Austin J4 , where the carburettor always fell to pieces while driving . A big change in the 70s where we owned 2 Vw type 2 transporters , massively reliable compared to the previous junk . Later on in the 80s , some mk 2 Astra vans , with the spritely 1.3 ohc engine . These were good drivers . A few Transits along the way , and currently use a 15 year old Connect for those friends and family “can you just “ go and pick something up for me . These are good solid drivers and my Aircon is freezing .
Van man - SLO76
Was a big fan of the old Astra vans, they were rocket ships. There was always one two inches off your rear bumper on the motorway no matter how fast you drove.
Van man - galileo
Was a big fan of the old Astra vans, they were rocket ships. There was always one two inches off your rear bumper on the motorway no matter how fast you drove.

You may remember the "bread-van" Ferraris that ran at Le Mans many years ago: the rear was flat and upright like a van, it was claimed this helped aerodynamic drag at high speed, perhaps what made Astra vans so quick :-)

Van man - elekie&a/c doctor
My Astra was an F reg 1989 in the Vauxhall mid peeling blue . “They all do that sir “ , said the dealer. Threw away the stock auto choke carb and put a Weber conversion kit on it . Went like a train . Regularly took the Speedo needle off the end .
Van man - badbusdriver

Was a big fan of the old Astra vans, they were rocket ships. There was always one two inches off your rear bumper on the motorway no matter how fast you drove.

These days that position has been well and truly taken by the lwb high roof Mercedes Sprinter!

I am also a big van of the humble van and pickup (not the current breed of far too big pose mobiles i hasten to add!). I have driven and owned a few, plus have fond childhood recollections of a couple of others.

Vauxhall Midi 2.0 petrol (1992). This was the parts van at the Saab dealership i worked at. It had the dual passenger seat option and so was column change. This wasn't too much of a challenge as (believe it or not) a couple of 96 V4's were still serviced by us and i had driven one of them a few times. The gearchange on the Midi was a bit stiff but otherwise it was a nice enough thing to drive, quite nippy but the back end was a bit wayward in the wet!.

Suzuki ST90 (1985) I bought this predecessor to the Supercarry/Rascal on a whim. What can i say, i like small vehicles and this was tiny, not to mention bright yellow!. Loved it, nippy in town, extremely manoeuvrable and an enormous amount of load space given its dimensions (I did actually sleep in it a couple of times). It was also the culprit of the scariest experience i've had behind a steering wheel, driving across the Kessock bridge on a windy day, yikes!. Despite this, i'd love to have another.

Peugeot 305 1.9d (circa 1987). This was the parts van at the Peugeot dealership i worked. Didn't get the chance to drive it that often, but i remember it being surprisingly fast, comfortable and refined.

Peugeot Boxer 2.8HDI LWB high roof (circa 1998). I worked for a while at a car/van hire company. Most of the 'standard' transit sized vans were Fiat Ducato 1.9d (non turbo), they were horrible and slow things to drive. We also had the above, and compared to the Ducato's, the Boxer was like a rocketship!. 130bhp isn't that impressive in a van these days, but back then i was absolutely amazed at how quick it felt. As an added bonus, it was more refined and had a much nicer gearchange then the Ducato's.

Ford Escort 1.8d (circa 1995). While working at the aforementioned car/van hire company, this came back off a long term rent. I was between cars at the time and the boss 'kindly' let me use this for a couple of weeks. What a nail!, not sure if they were all as gutless as that one, but it literally couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding!. To make matters worse, it stunk of fish!.

Iveco Daily SWB high roof (2003). I bought this when i first started as a window cleaner. I had been (incorrectly*) advised that i'd need a 1000 litre tank and a 3.5t van to put it in. Most 3.5t vans are huge, so the Iveco, being a SWB seemed like a good choice. It had a very high seating position (i was looking down on Range Rover drivers), the seat itself was incredibly comfortable and had a huge range of adjustment. Despite not having air-con, the heating/ventilation was fantastic being able to absolutely blast hot or cold air into the cabin/my face/my feet as required. The high point though, was the amazing turning circle, it could do a U-turn in not much more than its own length!. I would dearly love another, but i don't need a van that big and can't really justify it. (* i found out later that with a pump controller i could easily manage with a 500 litre tank, currently managing fine with a 400 litre one)

Ford Transit Connect 1.8TDCI 230 (2006). This replaced the Iveco and performed faultlessly for 7.5 years (till i went off the road on an icy country road). It was starting to suffer rust problems in the sills (a problem area of these i believe), but the only other demerit was the poor turning circle, especially noticeable after the Iveco!. Not particularly efficient compared to other vans in its class, but it was ok for my needs and the 40mpg i got on average was 10 more than the Iveco!.

VW Caddy 2.0 SDI. Bought in a rush to replace the Connect, but over two years later it has behaved impeccably!. Being the non turbo (70bhp) version, it is not in any way shape or form, fast, but is perfectly sufficient for my needs. Especially since i now, most of the time, abide by the official LCV speed limits. For the vast majority of the time, i am on single carriageway roads which means 50mph. Being an ex British Gas van, it is actually limited to 70mph, and it will maintain that with reasonable ease, noisily though, thanks to the short gearing. I found out that one of the only things which cause these trouble is the DMF. Shortly after buying mine, i was aware of symptoms (uneven idle, occasionally 'violent' sounding start up once warmed up) which i later discovered to be pointing in that direction, however, it has gotten no worse in the last 18 months, so fingers crossed!.

The couple of childhood recollections were both of pickups which my Dad had got a loan of from his work and i would dearly like to get an example of either. They were the Peugeot 504 and Subaru 284. Back in the days before 'health and safety' was a thing, Dad would get a loan of one of these two, and we'd often go to visit relatives with myself and my Brother sitting on cusions in the back (facing rearwards). For carrying capacity the 504 was definately trumps, but for me and my Brother sitting in the back, the Subaru offered a little more weather protection with the little 'flying buttresses'!.

Van man - dadbif
Citroen Berlingo, 1.9 diesel, bought 2nd hand in Spain, drove it to and from UK about 6 times, painfully slow uphill but passed everything on the way down.
Only fault during 5 years was a leaking rear wheel brake cylinder.
Still miss it.
Van man - John Boy

No one has mentioned Morris 1000 vans, probably because I'm older than most contributors to this topic. I owned 5 of them, plus a pickup truck and a Ford Escort Mk 1 van before I ever bought a car. I loved the sound of the Morry engine on the overrun - the van exhaust pipe did a rightangle turn over the chassis and came out just behind the driver's door!. There was lots of space to work on the engine without getting scraped knuckles and you could unbolt most of the front end to get the engine out without having to lift it very high. The wooden floor in the load compartment could also be removed, so you could stand inside with your feet on the ground. I was able to replace a snapped halfshaft and change the diff for one from a car, without going underneath at all. I removed the floor completely in one van and made a fibreglass footwell, so that I could fit a rear seat. The bodies were very sturdy - I have a photo of me sitting on the roof with my feet on the bonnet. I got rid of the Ford very quickly because it felt and sounded so tinny in comparison.

There were some things I didn't like. The brake master cylinder was located inside a chassis member which made it hard to replace it or any of the brake pipes connected to it. The front suspension kingpins had to be greased regularly otherwise you could up with a front corner looking as if it had gone splat on the road. It was really hard to stop the back doors squeaking where they came together - that could become extremely irritating! Although strong steel was used, there were plenty of rust traps underneath. Having said that, however, MOT records show that the last one I had only gave up the struggle with tin worm after 42 years. What finally defeated me, though, was the convoluted clutch linkage which made the pedal hard to press. One day I drove a Vauxhall Chevette pool car at work. It felt like a sports car in comparison and, within a fortnight, I'd got one of my own. It was an estate car and that's what I've had ever since, apart from a small mpv.

Van man - SLO76
Before my time but I do like the old Moggy, in every variant it came in but especially the Woody and the van. Great vehicles in their day and excellent classics with great parts support now.
Van man - concrete

When I became a supervisor, circa 1969, I was given a Hillman Imp van to make site visits. The first incarnation were excellent because they simply used the Imp gearbox and drive train which went very well for a van. Later models changed to a commercial set up and they lost speed. Our larger vans went from Ford Thames and J2 to Bedford and Transit with a few Commer vans and J4 too. The lorries were nearly all Bedford. They all did their job and I don't remember too many disasters. Cheers Concrete

Van man - badbusdriver

When I became a supervisor, circa 1969, I was given a Hillman Imp van to make site visits. The first incarnation were excellent because they simply used the Imp gearbox and drive train which went very well for a van.

I thought the first incarnations were actually badged Commer?.

I also think the Morris Minor van great, but like many 'classic' vans, they are rather expensive. Because they obviously led much harder lives, the survival rates are much lower!.

As a teenager i spent (at my Dad's insistence!) a summer holiday working with a local house builing firm. One of the joiners had a Mini pickup and i remember it being put on top of a shipping container for a joke!. But it, and (to a lesser extent) the van, are other examples of the classic commercial vehicle which will cost an arm and a leg to buy, assuming you can find one for sale!.

Van man - SLO76
There’s a few local firms using classic vans for advertising, most are Minors and one old Transit. Expensive to get a good one now as no one preserves them but you’ll be more likely to find me under the bonnet of an old Maestro van or similar at a car show than staring at lines of Jag E Types or Astons. I like the working man’s transport. Often wish I’d kept my old Renault Extra and preserved it. It wasn’t in need of much after 14yrs on the road and I only got £400 for it anyway. Lots of childhood memories from rolling around in the back of that thing with no seatbelt on, I sat on the spare wheel which was kept in the back for convenience. b***** lethal when I think of it now as a parent but that was the 80’s for you.

Edited by SLO76 on 01/05/2020 at 21:10

Van man - badbusdriver

I remember as a child seeing and Opel Rekord van (*) from time to time. It stuck in my mind because it was LHD and had half a bulkhead (drivers side only). So if you were behind it, unless you were aware that it was LHD, it looked like there was no driver!.

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Lots of childhood memories from rolling around in the back of that thing with no seatbelt on, I sat on the spare wheel which was kept in the back for convenience. b***** lethal when I think of it now as a parent but they was the 80’s for you.

Friends of my parents had a Moskovitch van*. They had at least 4 kids, so like you in the back of the Renault, and me (and my brother) in the open rear of a pickup, health and safety was of no concern at all!.

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Remember these SLO?,

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Edited by badbusdriver on 01/05/2020 at 21:33

Van man - glidermania

Biggest pain in the butt going. You strive to improve yourself and buy a nice house in a quiet residential cul de sac then, about 10 years later, white van man buys a house in the street and starts parking his monstroscity churning up the grass verge and such that the refuse collection wagon cannot get in.

In one cul de sac I lived in, one of my neighbours was hacked off when their neighbour started bringing the BT van home and parking on the pavement. When they complained to BT, the engineer just came home with a bigger van! I had to laugh when I heard the BT man 'debating' with other neighbours that he thought the place was a s***hole! You couldnt make it up.

Van man - SLO76

Biggest pain in the butt going. You strive to improve yourself and buy a nice house in a quiet residential cul de sac then, about 10 years later, white van man buys a house in the street and starts parking his monstroscity churning up the grass verge and such that the refuse collection wagon cannot get in.

In one cul de sac I lived in, one of my neighbours was hacked off when their neighbour started bringing the BT van home and parking on the pavement. When they complained to BT, the engineer just came home with a bigger van! I had to laugh when I heard the BT man 'debating' with other neighbours that he thought the place was a s***hole! You couldnt make it up.

Bit of a van fan and I like to see people being productive so nope, I take no issue with folks parking vans in my nice wee suburban street. Others do however, I see many are abandoned out on the main drive into our estate but again it’s nice to live somewhere that you can do this without fear of them being broken into.
Van man - SLO76
Much fondness for the old car derived vans of the 80’s. The Astra van is still to this day the fastest vehicle ever made by man and I include the Space Shuttle in that. It mattered not which 500hp supercar you were driving and how fast you went there was always an Astra van trying to get past you.
Van man - badbusdriver

Biggest pain in the butt going. You strive to improve yourself and buy a nice house in a quiet residential cul de sac then, about 10 years later, white van man buys a house in the street and starts parking his monstroscity churning up the grass verge and such that the refuse collection wagon cannot get in.

Hmm, there are a few different points to this post, but in response to the first one,

"You strive to improve yourself and buy a nice house in a quiet residential cul de sac then, about 10 years later, white van man buys a house in the street and starts parking his monstroscity"

Don't be such a snob!, this attitude has Hyacinth Bucket written all over it!!.

As to the grass and the bin lorry, well those are seperate issues and while the grass would certainly be annoyoying, the bin men will (or should) certainly be banging on his door to get it moved.