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BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - HGV ~ P Valentine

www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/bmw-says-an-electric-m...p

I saw this article and thought it might make an interesting subject matter.

I am not a biking person, and being a hgv driver I have seen the best of bike riders and the worst, they are hard enough to see but usually noisy so you hear them before you see them, so I think this new bike is a death waiting to happen ?

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - badbusdriver

There has been electric motorcycles available for years now. Not really in the general conciousness of the UK because we are so slow in adapting to electric vehicles.

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - Terry W

They are not really in the general conciousness of the Costa del Sol where I am wintering.

There are lots of scooters and small bikes around the small town where I am staying but all seem to be 2 or 4 stroke small machines which are really for very local use. I suspect most do no more than 5-10 miles per day.

Electric would be a major improvement - range would not be an issue locally, no noise, less to go wrong, absence of buring oil courtesy of the 2 strokes, easy to park, easy to manouvre in narrow streets.

However the electric stand up scooters which have been banned in the UK are popular amongst the kids with 10 - 16 year olds having fun terrorising those in pedestrianised areas!

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - Zippy123

www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/bmw-says-an-electric-m...p

I saw this article and thought it might make an interesting subject matter.

I am not a biking person, and being a hgv driver I have seen the best of bike riders and the worst, they are hard enough to see but usually noisy so you hear them before you see them, so I think this new bike is a death waiting to happen ?

Surely then, you are not looking hard enough! Mirror, signal, manoeuvre!
BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - Bolt

Surely then, you are not looking hard enough! Mirror, signal, manoeuvre!

I suspect these bikes will be faster than you are able to do all three at once, judging by the acceleration rate of these electric vehicles, and, silent with it!

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - oldroverboy.

.As with all things, OBSERVATION as well as listening, but I did like the Blind Spot warning on the car I tried last month, as well as the reversing camera.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 04/01/2020 at 17:54

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - badbusdriver

Here is a link to a page on the MCN website, listing the '10 best electric motorcycles to buy in the UK now'

www.motorcyclenews.com/advice/best/electric-motorb.../

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - paul 1963

Come on ORB your tempted :)

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - oldroverboy.

Come on ORB your tempted :)

MOI? Tempted?

I was a poor motorcyclist even though I had a couple of nice machines. Triumph T160 trident. Honda 550/4. Yamaha 750 triple.

If it's OK with you all, I'll pass.

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - focussed

Apart from what are clearly commuter machines - low miles in and out of cities etc, I just don't see the point in a large electric motorcycle. You fill it up, you know that it will get you X miles to where you are going, and there will be a filling station to fill it and get you another X miles.

When travelling in Europe I knew to the mile that after filling up in Adinkerke in Belgium when the fuel reserve light would come on, about 5 miles from home in the UK after 240 miles travelled.

I want certainty, not "might" have a range of X miles if blah blah blah etc.

BMW. - Silent Bikes ??? - badbusdriver

Apart from what are clearly commuter machines - low miles in and out of cities etc, I just don't see the point in a large electric motorcycle. You fill it up, you know that it will get you X miles to where you are going, and there will be a filling station to fill it and get you another X miles.

When travelling in Europe I knew to the mile that after filling up in Adinkerke in Belgium when the fuel reserve light would come on, about 5 miles from home in the UK after 240 miles travelled.

I want certainty, not "might" have a range of X miles if blah blah blah etc.

Complaing about something not being able to do something it is not designed to do is a little unfair don't you think?. I mean obviously electric motorcycles are not going to be for people who do lengthy european tours are they?. If a farmer were to buy a Ferrari and then complain that he couldn't use it to deliver bales of hay to his sheep on the hillside, would that be a fair comment?.

Electric motorbikes are specifically aimed at commuters and for good reason, they are a perfect solution to urban congestion. Ignoring where the electricity comes from, they have zero emissions, the instant torque makes them perfect for squirting away from the traffic lights, their light weight means you don't need massive heavy batteries like an electric car. In fact with quite a few electric scooters i have looked at, the battery weighs 10kg or less and can be removed for charging. If you think about that, it opens up electric transport to folk who can't use an electric car due to not having a place to (reliably) charge up. It also means that you could buy an extra battery which, if you were travelling further afield, can double your range. And finally, it also means that you have extra security from theft, as the power source is not on the bike if it is on the street or communal car park.

Another area where electric motorbikes could potentially flourish is the custom scene. As with electric cars, not having an internal combustion engine means the layout does not need to follow convention. On a custom bike, this can free up the designer to do stuff not possible if you have to find space for a big "vee twin". This is not a custom bike by any stretch, but does give an indication of what can be done by a designer wanting to stand out, and to think outside the box, eriderbikes.com/electric-mopeds/miku-max-electric-.../

Personally, i think electric motorbikes (whether big or small) are a great thing and should be fully embraced by anyone who might be thinking about using a conventional motorbike for commuting to work.