Well no where is hiring me at the moment which is annoying. I mean I would never work in a bar, let alone a fast food place (Spit) but a shop never hires me.

And how can I do it when at Uni, and working. When do students normally learn to pass

well it means I would have passed

I learnt to drive for work, it was years before I was able to get my own car. The average cost of the " newbie" insurance is about £ 3000, it is not the running of the car that is the problem but the insurance. First 2 years you are on premium rate. ( arm and a leg lol, after that you only have to pay an arm )

um, but my stepbrother can drive and passed his test, his girlfriend who he is getting married to has passed her test. My stepsister and her partner can also drive as well.

You tell me when I could have money to learn to drive then, how the hell can I get the money. You really think working at McDonalds like a dog is enough

I WOULD NEVER AND I MEAN EVER ASK THEM

What is that supposed to mean that I know how to f***ing drive. I wouldn't be asking about how to pass and got have to have f***ing 10-15 lessons.

You do realise when my stepbrother and stepsister passed their test it was the old test, they didn't have to pass using the b***** satnav

"You are either a wind up merchant, or as thick as pig poop. Quite why the others are so tolerant is beyond me"

+1

Definitely wind up

You are probably a wind-up, or drunk.

Even if you're not, you seem to have a sense of entitlement and spend a lot of your time whingeing about why you can't work, can't earn money, haven't got a car, can't pass your test instantly, haven't got a girlfriend.

You won't work in a fast-food place or a bar, can't understand why driving instructors get paid, want to pass your driving test even though you haven't got a car and think it's unfair that the driving test has got harder.

You're a bit of a loser, aren't you? Why do you think that is?

Um I am not a wind up. You really think its fair that I have to pass a completely different test then my stepsiblings had to?

It's fair that you have to pass the current test arrangements - if you don't like them, become a politician and change them.

Life's unfair - get used to it.

Uni is not the same because the exam questions were still the same as my stepsiblings however the driving test is complexly different and you have to follow some sat nav. Well I tell you what if they tell me to do that they can just except im not doing that

Same poster is posting different questions on a non motoring forum as well today - think they have had much too much to drink.

Moderator, please delete the account or block samtheman111.

This site is very useful for help and advice and should not be spoiled by the likes of samtheman111

Entitled much? I want everything and I want it yesterday and I'm prepared to do absolutely nothing to get it. Isnt that very Millennial of you?

FWIW I worked when I left school. Up till my A levels every holiday I temped in an office. Saved my money and paid for my own driving lessons. Still I suppose that very old fashioned these days. Initially I got £33 a week. Driving lessons were 5quid an hour. I had 16. Passed first time which was lucky as I couldn't afford to pay for another test fee that year. Times were hard and my parents had nothing to spare. And I gave my parents housekeeping out of that. Different times.

"So go on then, you tell me how I can..."

Why should we? Do it yourself, the same as most of us have had to do. Get a life, stop whining and get on with living it. No-one owes you anything.

You do realise how pathetic you sound, don't you?

Yes oldroverboy I am 27, I am 27 and haven't graduated. WHATS THE f***ING PROBLEM WITH THAT YOU NASTY LITTLE MAN

Please.

Everyone, 'Tis the Season of Goodwill'

Let's all have a whipround, collect lots of money and........

Go down the pub.

Sam, you'll do better if you go back to college, and indeed, still at UNI at 27, surely.......at 27... you haven't graduated...

If you meet me by the Blacksmiths Arms in the High street later today I'll pay for your first driving lesson provided you come dressed as a Christmas Turkey.

Best thread post.

No that was a very mean post that oldrover said. Saying I should not be at uni, you know people f***ing go to uni and different ages!

Indeed, not very nice, but YOU are taking the "P", so don't get upset when we take it too!

Did I actually say that you shouldn't be at Uni?

Don't think so.

But all the same, to make it up to you, I'll pay for 2 lessons.

No that was a very mean post that oldrover said. Saying I should not be at uni, you know people f***ing go to uni and different ages!

What are you studying? Definitely not anger management. Or logic.

Out of interest, are you studying at the Basil Fawlty University in Devon?

Edited by Chris M on 27/12/2019 at 09:15

I really resisted the temptation to reply but congratulations I've taken the bait.

A few cold hard facts for you: in order to drive, own a car costs money, go and earn some then pay for lessons.....simple!

Oh and please stop swearing.

tourism management

I think that says it all. Everything seems to be about sibling envy. Why a 'mature' 27-year-old has to pepper his remarks with the universal f-word escapes me. Avant must be having a lie-in for this thread to have lasted as long as this.

HNY to everyone, by the way, even Sam. Apologies for possible gender error - I forgot that Sam can be female occasionally ... :-)

Edited by Andrew-T on 27/12/2019 at 09:23

How would you feel if your younger stepsiblings could drive, had finished uni. had worked, had got partners, gone on holiday with their partners and you had none of that

What a well balanced individual - a chip on both shoulders.

im just asking how people would feel. would they be happy

You can't drive? What a loser.

I apologise for being rude on here

Samtheman 111.

Let me relate to you how I paid for lessons and bought a car when I was at University:

I worked 7 days a week whilst at school, in the mornings, evenings and weekends. Delivering newspapers, cleaning factories, cleaning toilets and stacking bricks at a local brickyard. Fortunately for our health, if not for the availability of easy jobs, we did not have fast-food outlets. If we had those, then that is where I would have worked.

The money I saved helped me to take driving lessons (My parents never had a car!) pass the driving test, buy my first car (6 weeks wages worth), insure it (4 weeks wages), and run it, learning car mechanics in the process.

When you come down to earth, do what I did! Otherwise, remain in cloud cuckoo land.

Thing is I dont know if it's best to learn in my home or uni city

While I was at uni, the government paid for my driving lessons. Simple if you know how!

OTC?

I suppose that might be an option for the OP, assuming the nationality criteria are met.

27 is a bit older than usual but not, I think, a show stopper.

Cue Daily Teledgraph "Bit o'discipline/short back and sides/ make a man of you"jive

(though I doubt that really applies to the OTC)

Probably actually a better way of getting an HGV when you already have a drivers licence, though, since they may not be short of drivers.

Edited by edlithgow on 27/12/2019 at 15:25

Living in a large city with good public transport services, neither of my teenage children has expressed an interest in learning to drive. With the push for self-driving vehicles maybe in a few years there will be no need for a driving test anyway. I think the OP's prblems would be solved if s/he used the skils learnt at uni to set up a business in some far off sun-drenched island where a driving licence can be bought and there is a ready stream of potential partners stripping off for the beach.

Neither of Youngroverbelles have bothered with a driving license.

Now 39 and 37.

Both live in switzerland where there are strict limits on minimum tuition and cars and insurance are at eyewatering prices.

Think yourself it's lucky you are here!

www.ch.ch/en/practical-driving-test/

Practical driving test

During the practical test, an expert assesses your ability to drive a motor vehicle of your chosen category safely and follow the traffic regulations. In order to obtain the necessary skills and to prepare for the test, you are strongly recommended to take driving lessons with a professional instructor.

Booking your test

When you feel comfortable driving, have enough driving experience and have attended the required courses (e.g. compulsory theory course) you can sign up for the practical test.

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Test requirements

The vehicle in which you intend to take your test must be in the correct category, in a roadworthy condition, meet all regulations and display an L-plate (white L on blue background) clearly on the back.
You must bring the following documents with you:

• a valid identity document (passport, identity card or residence permit)
• your provisional driving licence
• a driving licence obtained for another vehicle category if applicable
• vehicle registration document of vehicle used for the test.

If you pass

After you pass your test you will receive your credit card format probationary driving licence by post.

If you fail Procedure after first failed attempt

If you fail the test, you can generally retake the test after a month. For more information contact your canton’s road traffic office.

Procedure after second failed attempt

You have to provide a certificate from a recognised driving instructor stating that you have completed your training.

Procedure after third failed attempt

If you fail the practical driving test at the third attempt, you will have to undergo a driving aptitude test before being permitted to take a further test. Your cantonal road traffic office will refer you to the appropriate service. If you fail this test, your provisional licence is no longer valid. The legal basis for this measure is provided by the Road Traffic Licensing Ordinance.

Procedure after fourth failed attempt

If you fail your driving test a fourth time or if you do not pass the driving aptitude test taken after your third attempt, you may only take another test if you are given a positive psychological assessment on your ability to drive.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 27/12/2019 at 11:43

Living in a large city with good public transport services, neither of my teenage children has expressed an interest in learning to drive. With the push for self-driving vehicles maybe in a few years there will be no need for a driving test anyway. I think the OP's prblems would be solved if s/he used the skils learnt at uni to set up a business in some far off sun-drenched island where a driving licence can be bought and there is a ready stream of potential partners stripping off for the beach.

Works for me.

Well, it might if 27 wasn't quite such a distant memory..

Still a good trick if you can do it though.

Edited by edlithgow on 27/12/2019 at 11:16

So is it better learning at home or at the uni city

Yes

So is it better learning at home or at the uni city

Difficult for us to advise as we don't know which either place is. I would say you might be less distracted at home than when at uni where there may be more going on. But I guess you are away more than you are at home. Only you can judge. A 'uni city' may be bigger and more congested than your home town; lessons may be cheaper; all kinds of considerations.

How would you feel if your younger stepsiblings could drive, had finished uni. had worked, had got partners, gone on holiday with their partners and you had none of that

I guess I would feel like a complete loser. (I’m only kidding.)

So to be serious and assuming you are for real, you usually get things in life by working. I worked hard at A levels to get into university where I worked hard to get a first. I then worked in academic life until I got sensible and got a real job to earn some real money. I learnt to drive at age 35 because a boss manipulated me into taking lessons. It backfired on him as once I had the licence I left for a better job.

Asking how to pass the test without lessons is barking. Are you going to ask how to pass a degree without working? Tourism management, why on earth do you need a degree, get a job and get experience, and don’t owe £50,000.