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Extended warranty, urgent help - gooddriver

I own a X5. FSH by BMW, 10k on the clock, bought new.

Warranty runs out in a weeks time. ie 3 years old in the first week of September.

Looked at Warranty Direct and were cheaper than Motor Easy. ME appears to be offering a better cover as far as I can tell but the quote was about 30% more expensive. Spoke with both lots of sales both were equally good. No diagnosis charges. I know that tyres, brakes were and tear not included nor are light bulbs or battery and exhaust but everything else I can think of is.

Searching Google I noted that this site spoke highly of WD up until a few years ago.

Edited by gooddriver on 30/08/2019 at 22:14

Extended warranty, urgent help - Andrew-T

EW's are for non-betting men or those who are happy to pay generously for peace of mind. Presumably as a Beemer owner you may fall into the latter category :-)

Basically, if you trust your car you will prefer to keep the cost of a warranty in your pocket rather than donating it to a profit-making enterprise. If you don't trust the car, the choice is yours. Personally I think it makes more sense to put the warranty premiums in a piggy bank and use them if needed. If not, have fun on the savings.

Extended warranty, urgent help - gooddriver

Ok, thanks but it was not the question I had asked.

Extended warranty, urgent help - RT

Ok, thanks but it was not the question I had asked.

The issue is that premium cars have premium repair costs, regardless of their age - if it's not a simple DIY replacement it's often £1,000 or more for a specialist job.

I can't answer your question as my OE extended warranty doesn't expire for another year but I'll be looking to set one up.

Extended warranty, urgent help - sammy1

AndrewT has given you sound advice, after market warranties are often not worth the paper they are written on. Won't BMW give you an extended warranty on your extremely low mileage car if you really want one. Your car is unlikely to have a serious mechanical with this mileage and with respect if you can afford this car new I would suggest that if you stay with BMW you will probably get goodwill in the event of any problem and would be ill advised to get a problem fixed elsewhere

Extended warranty, urgent help - SLO76
Two options I’d suggest. One take the risk, save some money. BMW don’t have the best reputation for reliability but a 10,000 mile car is barely run in. I’d continue to service it with the main dealer and I’d pocket the cost of the warranty instead. If it’s a diesel make sure it gets a regular longer run to keep the DPF clear. A diesel isn’t suitable for low mileage users but with a large SUV there’s no real option. No warranty will cover a clogged DPF anyway.

Two, take out an extended BMW backed warranty. This is the only cover worth having as aftermarket warranties have more holes in them than a colander. The Warranty Direct policy for example excludes ECUs and computers both of which are the most likely cause of woe on an older BM. They’ll also have a claims limit and won’t necessarily cover the cost of main dealer repairs or manufacturer parts. The only way to have real peace of mind is to fork out for manufacturer backed cover. I personally wouldn’t bother but if you want insurance this is the only way to go.

I don’t like aftermarket warranties, I’ve had the battles with them on customers behalf and most simply aren’t worth the paper their printed on.

Edited by SLO76 on 31/08/2019 at 00:19

Extended warranty, urgent help - CHarkin

You don't say if you looked at BMW's own warranty if they have one. After looking for an extended warranty for my VW at the same age as your car I came to the conclusion it was the only one worth having, the wording was very plain and simple with little scope for manoeuvre. One thing that did worry me was that any claim had to be the result of a "sudden failure", so did that mean things that gradually went wrong were not covered?

How worth while a warranty is is down to your attitude to risk and your ability to stump up if things do go wrong. If a £2500 bill would bankrupt you take out the warranty.

Edited by CHarkin on 31/08/2019 at 00:57

Extended warranty, urgent help - oldroverboy.

Only the BMW warranty is worth it. Everything else will have limits to what it will pay.

Extended warranty, urgent help - Falkirk Bairn

A son's X5 bought new 4.5 years ago - although he knew when he bought it he forgot. It had 60K on it. Air suspension failed a month after warranty ran out - that's when he found out he was out of warranty

BMW warranty would have been around $1500 IIRC - only available whilst still under original warranty.3rd party were at least double that & lots of get out clauses & limits on repairs..

Extended warranty, urgent help - badbusdriver

Ok, thanks but it was not the question I had asked.

Looking at your original post, you haven't actually asked a question at all!. So Andrew's response is as good as any, and indeed it pretty much sums up aftermarket warranties.

Also, i'm not sure how the post qualifies as "urgent"?. If you were concerned about the warranty issue, why wait till a week before it runs out to do anything about it?.

Extended warranty, urgent help - barney100

How much is the BMW warranty? Then it's a case of pay out for it or save the payments to use for any repairs. There are plenty of Indies around who do work at a more friendly cost too. I have an SLK 250 of 2012 vintage and use Indies. Even with a couple of £500 hits over four years it's cheaper than a Mercedes extended warranty. Up to you.

Extended warranty, urgent help - gooddriver

Thank you again to the poster that came close to answering my question.

To be clear, and very clear, what is the difference between Warranty Wise's and Motor Easy's

top, most expensive policies, please.

BMW warranty is very expensive and the above two are cheaper by a good margin.

As one of the posters said, his son's air suspension went on a relatively low mile car.

My dads X5 Nox sensor went when the car was barely four years old and he had the car from new and FSH by BMW - Not sure if it was two sensors but came close to 2k I think. He got goodwill and paid only 1600 pounds if I recall correctly.

Extended warranty, urgent help - oldroverboy.

My dads X5 Nox sensor went when the car was barely four years old and he had the car from new and FSH by BMW - Not sure if it was two sensors but came close to 2k I think. He got goodwill and paid only 1600 pounds if I recall correctly.

You say that they paid 20% as goodwill. that doesn't (or didn't) stop them making money out of your dad...

Ultimately, after many years in the motor trade, (now retired) you are the one who has to decide. YOU have to read the exclusions, if there is a limit on hourly labour costs and how you feel about paying. What are the two actual quotes you have reveived, and for what model of car? eg X5 3.oD? auto? manual?

Extended warranty, urgent help - gooddriver

Sorry, I think I've still not been clear judging by the above post.

All I am ask for is any thoughts, experiences of using WW and/or ME and what made you go for one of them oe none as the case may be.

To be blunt, I'm not asking about if warranties are worth the money, useless, etc or if I need to read and decide as anyone signing up for something already knows that.

On further research I have noted that this site pushed WW and more recently ME. I apologise in advance if I've got that wrong.

Extended warranty, urgent help - SLO76
“To be blunt, I'm not asking about if warranties are worth the money, useless, etc or if I need to read and decide as anyone signing up for something already knows that.”




It seems you don’t value our advice and simply want us to read the small print on two warranty products for you. I’ll bid you farewell and suggest you do your own reading instead of asking people such as myself who’ve spent decades in the motor trade selling these policies and having to deal with the firms (usually) rotten attitude towards claims to do it for you.

I will say this as a parting piece of advice, you only get what you pay for with warranties and thus the reason why the manufacturers guarantee is so much more expensive. Best of luck!
Extended warranty, urgent help - Leif
“To be blunt, I'm not asking about if warranties are worth the money, useless, etc or if I need to read and decide as anyone signing up for something already knows that.” It seems you don’t value our advice and simply want us to read the small print on two warranty products for you. I’ll bid you farewell and suggest you do your own reading instead of asking people such as myself who’ve spent decades in the motor trade selling these policies and having to deal with the firms (usually) rotten attitude towards claims to do it for you. I will say this as a parting piece of advice, you only get what you pay for with warranties and thus the reason why the manufacturers guarantee is so much more expensive. Best of luck!

SLO76 makes very good points. I sense a degree of ingratitude.

Extended warranty, urgent help - Miniman777

I own a X5. FSH by BMW, 10k on the clock, bought new.

Warranty runs out in a weeks time. ie 3 years old in the first week of September.

Have to admit some confusion with this post. OP been able to afford the new X5, and kept the mileage to a very low level, which begs the Q asked by another poster, why not extend the BMW warranty? Also, why is there no indication of the cost?

Extended warranty on a BMW and a Mini has three levels - Comprehensive, named components and drive line and IIRC there are different levels of excess within. Plus you can include the Mini emergency service. With the differing excess levels, the premium varies to suit budget.

I've personal experience of BMW/Mini warranty on three cars in the past 5 years as follows:

R56 Cooper S, bad engine misfire, diagnosed back in Mini workshop as broken No. 2 piston. New short engine fitted at (55k miles) at no cost to myself. Had a hire car at no charge for two weeks of repair, inc a small delay for parts from Germany. Invoiced cost with new thermostat and water pump etc, £6,600. Car later sold to a mate, who is still a mate and the car is going a dream.

R57 Copper S Cabrio - Air bag light on. Faulty passenger occupancy sensor diagnosed, and dealer was advised pax dealt belt did not retract and jammed on fastening in. Both replaced under extended warranty, no quibble. Invoice cost £750, paid first £250.

G01 BMW X3 (67 plate) - whine/whsitling noticed 2 weeks after (used) purchase. Initially thought to be wind but pitch changed as engine revved. Diagnosis was a differential fault. Diagnosed on a Thursday, into workshop on the Monday 0830, car back with me Tuesday evening. Invoice cost £2,600, under warranty. The 3-year new X3 warranty expires November 2020, but regardless of cost, the extended warranty will be taken out.

The extended warranty for the R57 for the next 12 months is £455. so at £9 a week to cover repairs to a complex car is peanuts.

While there may be financial satisfaction in obtaining a cheaper warranty, it certainly isn't like for like and that should be considered too. It will almost certainly riddled with exclusions to avoid paying - I've seen far too many cases of companies weedleing out of their obligations on technicalities, leaving customers in the lurch with delaying tactics while the customer is immobile.

Buying an extended warranty for the BMW will be expensive as the X5 is a very expensive car to buy and run, but if a turbo blows or the autobox has a failure, can you be sure the other cheaper warranties will repair with new OEM kit or simply use stuff from a motor factors, parts which originated in China? Is that right for a motor costing upwards of £55k new? I also have it in writing from BMW that the warranty covers failure of LED headlights too, which would be an arm & leg to replace.

Yes, stick £100 away each month as a Plan B, but if there's a failure after a few months, will it be enough?

I appreciate my views won't meet favour will everyone, but my experiences of in-warranty repairs from BMW have been faultless and worth paying that bit extra.

Edited by Miniman777 on 31/08/2019 at 16:12

Extended warranty, urgent help - oldroverboy.

Yes, stick £100 away each month as a Plan B, but if there's a failure after a few months, will it be enough?

I appreciate my views won't meet favour will everyone, but my experiences of in-warranty repairs from BMW have been faultless and worth paying that bit extra.

Well said Miniman.!!!

Just the advice that the OP doesn't want to hear. I would have thought that someone who has £55.000 could afford a warranty, and just perhaps, the OP doesn't have a full Manufacturer service history?

But if I had a full BMW service history all on time, I would NOT go for either of the "lower cost options"

Ask on the BMW X5 forum for advice, they are the people who will be possibly buying warranties.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 31/08/2019 at 17:34

Extended warranty, urgent help - oldroverboy.

2018 BMW X5 extended warranty costs 2018. From the X5 forum

1: Comprehensive with Emergency Service: Nil Excess £1440, £100.00 Excess £1084.00 £250 Excess £834.
2: Named Component with Emergency Service: Nil £1199, £100 Exc £915, £250 Exc £715.
3: d*****ine with Emergency Service: Nil £938, £100 Exc £730, £250 Exc £585.
4: Emergency only £156.00.

With the excess of £250 not much more than the others, but OP too lazy to look perhaps. or just trolling????

Edited by oldroverboy. on 31/08/2019 at 18:46

Extended warranty, urgent help - FoxyJukebox

With such a low mileage over three years-I just wondered if you had thought about ditching the extended warranty idea and upgrading to another new car?

Extended warranty, urgent help - MGspannerman
I am fascinated and not a little bemused by this discussion about warranties and an earlier post about Mini/BMW repair and warranty costs.

Why not just buy a car that doesnt generate these concerns? My Toyota Avensis has a five year warranty, 3.5 years in, 35k miles and no warranty claims. Similarly with my previous cars - RAV4 ran to 70k miles and 4.5 years, Prius sold on after 110k miles. My wife’s ten year old Yaris did prove very troublesome though two years after we bought it. The plastic disc on top of the gear lever knob delaminated to give a rough edge. Replaced in 5 minutes at a cost, to Toyota, of 95p. fulsome apology and a comment that this was not the first one to have this problem.

No warranty worries, but of course they are very boring cars. But you know, I think I can cope with the ignominy of that, but each to their own. Won’t be buying a mini or x5 anytime soon though.
Extended warranty, urgent help - SLO76
I am fascinated and not a little bemused by this discussion about warranties and an earlier post about Mini/BMW repair and warranty costs. Why not just buy a car that doesnt generate these concerns? My Toyota Avensis has a five year warranty, 3.5 years in, 35k miles and no warranty claims. Similarly with my previous cars - RAV4 ran to 70k miles and 4.5 years, Prius sold on after 110k miles. My wife’s ten year old Yaris did prove very troublesome though two years after we bought it. The plastic disc on top of the gear lever knob delaminated to give a rough edge. Replaced in 5 minutes at a cost, to Toyota, of 95p. fulsome apology and a comment that this was not the first one to have this problem. No warranty worries, but of course they are very boring cars. But you know, I think I can cope with the ignominy of that, but each to their own. Won’t be buying a mini or x5 anytime soon though.

Yes, I too was horrified at having to fork out £7 for a new gear knob top for my 9yr old 85k Avensis Estate recently. Terrible standard of build, I’m disgusted at such expense. Better get saving up for the next one in another 9yrs time.
Extended warranty, urgent help - Avant

"On further research I have noted that this site pushed WW and more recently ME. I apologise in advance if I've got that wrong."

As moderator can I assure you that this site doesn't 'push' anything. We carry advertising, as it's our main source of income, and individuals may comment on theor own experiences, but those are both different issues.

Welcome to the forum, Gooddriver: people on here speak their mind and sometimes you won't get the answer that you may have been looking for. But that doesn't mean we don't try to help.

Extended warranty, urgent help - Smileyman

I guess the lack of direct response to your question tells you something - albeit a message by silence. Have you researched claims history performance for these two businesses, compare your findings with comments about the BMW warranty and factor in any silence received as part of your decision making process. I know it's not great, I'd want more than just one poster to have useful comments to use as a basis for decision, and up to now there has not even been a trickle.

Extended warranty, urgent help - gooddriver

Thank you Miniman777, very much appreciate the detailed response.