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Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Vast

Baffling me and the local wheel balancing community. Any thoughts most welcome and much appreciated.

I20 (63 plate) developed a wheel wobble around 50mph. Had the front wheels balanced and problem solved. Around 100 miles later, wobble returns. The wobble can be felt through the car. Ive never driven it (my wifes) but as a passenger its worrying. Cant imagine what its like to drive !

Have repeated the above process 4 or 5 times and changed wheels front to back at the last balance, but still 100-150 miles later the wobble returns.

The second time we did a balance, the operative put on weights that went about a 1/4 to 1/3 around the inside of the rim. Never seen so many. Id guess 15 to 20 weights.

The next balancer was at a different garage and the top man/owner. He was equally surprised by the number of weights. He removed them, balanced the wheels (with far fewer weights) and as usual, all was well for a few days.

Any ideas as to a logical explanation for this illogical occurrence ? Taking the car in next week, so any thoughts I can pass onto the garage might help solve the mystery.

Many thanks in anticipation..

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - gordonbennet

So does the wobble return to the same wheel when swapped to the rear or the same corner of the car whichever wheel is fitted there?

If it's one particular wheel wherever its fitted then its more than likely a faulty and deteriorating tyre, i would get the tyre lads to run the wheel alone up on the balancer just to make sure you don't have a bucked or faulty wheel and only fit another tyre...could you make use of the spare tyre if its full size for testing purposes.

15/20 weights on one particular wheel is obvious to anyone either the tyre or wheel is faulty.

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - tourantass
Hi..Its not had puncture repair gunk put in the tyre at some point, and a chunk of it is moving about inside the tyre and changing the balance of the wheel.....just a thought.
Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Chris M

Is your wife in the habit of driving up a kerb, perhaps when visiting a friend/relative?

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Vast

She is drawn to potholes like a moth to the moon, but Im assured that the wobble isn't a result of potholing or curbing. We have purchased many an alloy rim over the years and a drivers door, which was left slightly open by the roadside, to be sucked open and removed by a concrete lorry... I could go on.......

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Vast

Dont think so but appreciate your reply. Was talked into putting that stuff in my motorcycle tyres before a trip to Europe. Anything over 85 mph (abroad of course) and the front end was all over the place. I then had a puncture and it covered my bike in gunk....

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Vast

Thanks for your response... Don't know if its the same wheel. I also suspect it may be a tyre. I seem to remember on one of our balancing outings, the fitter commenting on how difficult the tyres its shod with (no idea what they are) is to balance....

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Bolt

Thanks for your response... Don't know if its the same wheel. I also suspect it may be a tyre. I seem to remember on one of our balancing outings, the fitter commenting on how difficult the tyres its shod with (no idea what they are) is to balance....

If the tread is out of line in a small area it wont matter which hub its on it will have the same effect, I would check the tyre tread for all round alignment, apart from that a damaged sidewall will do the same thing as its flexing more than it should throwing the balance out...

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Chris M

"to be sucked open and removed by a concrete lorry..."

That's unusual. Lorries are usually made of metal.

:)

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Vast

2 years later and the wobble problem persists, despite 4 brand new, matching tyres last month.

No idea if there is a connection, but when reversing (on full left lock) to get out of our drive, the car knocks a couple of times during the 10M reverse. Id guess from the offside rear, but cant be sure. Possibly a perished bush somewhere, but no mention on MOT;s...

Anywhere below 46mph and above 55mph, its fine. A pain if stuck in a 50mph zone..

Baffled......

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Galaxy

I once had what I was convinced was a wheel balance problem with my Ford Capri. I had the wheel balancing carried out at many different tyre shops but the problem wasn't solved. It was like your problem, OP - I always thought the wheel balance problem had been solved and, of course, always hoped that it had. But at various lengths of time afterwards it was always clear that it hadn't.

I took the car into my local trusted independent garage when I was clearly getting nowhere with the repeated wheel balancing. They checked everything on the front end and recommended changing some of the rubber bushes. This they did and problem solved! From the way in which the car was behaving I would never have believed that the problem was being caused by worn rubber bushes but it was!

I always used to find it helpful with wheel balancing to actually get the wheels balanced on the car. I'm not sure whether anyone actually still has the necessary equipment to be able to do this these days but it might possibly be worth your while to have a phone around and see whether or not it's still possible to obtain this service.

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Bolt

2 years later and the wobble problem persists, despite 4 brand new, matching tyres last month.

No idea if there is a connection, but when reversing (on full left lock) to get out of our drive, the car knocks a couple of times during the 10M reverse. Id guess from the offside rear, but cant be sure. Possibly a perished bush somewhere, but no mention on MOT;s...

Anywhere below 46mph and above 55mph, its fine. A pain if stuck in a 50mph zone..

Baffled......

I get the feeling its not a wheel problem but possibly week or damaged wheel studs/bolts onto hub- possibly even hub as well, could be when pressure is applied to the Bolts/nuts the thread/s give causing a thread to slip so it appears the wheel is out of balance

I have known it to happen on an old Escort years ago and the hub had to be replaced with the Bolts. but it is just a thought

Apart from what has been said could even be a ball joint or as galaxy mentioned bushes

Edited by bolt on 05/03/2021 at 17:37

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Andrew-T

No idea if there is a connection, but when reversing (on full left lock) to get out of our drive, the car knocks a couple of times during the 10M reverse. Id guess from the offside rear, but cant be sure. Possibly a perished bush somewhere, but no mention on MOT;s...

After many years driving 205s I was quite used to the gentle 'knock' when reversing, caused by the pads reversing within the caliper. Don't know if that is your explanation ?

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - Bolt

No idea if there is a connection, but when reversing (on full left lock) to get out of our drive, the car knocks a couple of times during the 10M reverse. Id guess from the offside rear, but cant be sure. Possibly a perished bush somewhere, but no mention on MOT;s...

After many years driving 205s I was quite used to the gentle 'knock' when reversing, caused by the pads reversing within the caliper. Don't know if that is your explanation ?

Common on a lot of cars when the pads wear to a certain point, just have to keep an eye on wear so you can replace before they wear to metal......

Hyundai i20 - Wheel wobble fixed. Lasts 100 miles..... - jc2

Sounds more like a drive train problem than a wheel.Bent drive shaft?Universal breaking up?