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N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - RaineMan

I caught part of a phone in on this - older drivers being the subject of phone ins every six months or so. It occurs to me that an eye test (for both acuity and field of vision) by a qualified optician together with a fitness to drive statement from a GP should be compulsory every ten years as a minimum. What do others think?

Edited by Avant on 01/08/2019 at 15:39

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - gordonbennet

I think that i'm getting fed up with the older generation being the constant easy target of modern politicians/apparatchiks and their media chums.

Maybe a full blood test of all licence holders under 40 years (all ages for current politicians with their murky pasts) for drug/alcohol abuse would yield more licences being withdrawn and the roads much safer.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Vitesse6

A lot can happen in 10 years so I fail to see any benefit to it, not to mention an extra straw on the back of the overworked GP service. Eye test every couple of years is good sense anyway just in case anything nasty is developing. Other than that, as a condition of your licence you are obliged to report any health concerns which may affect your driving.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Avant

While agreeing with GB, I should mention that eye tests are free every year for over-70s, and it seems silly not to take advantage of that. The worry is that those who don't are the ones who need it most, but they're frightened of being stopped from driving.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - barney100

Older people are mostly diligent with their eye tests...and the rest of the tests, getting boring now.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Theophilus

It occurs to me that an eye test (for both acuity and field of vision) by a qualified optician together with a fitness to drive statement from a GP should be compulsory every ten years as a minimum.

As a retired GP I have no problem with the proposal that I (and all over 70s) should have an annual eye test, and as Avant has already pointed out these are free for over-70s.

However ... having spent many hours of my professional life conducting the mandatory medical examinations for professional drivers (HGV, PCV Taxi, etc) I struggle to think of more than a tiny % of medicals that would have picked up a reason to advise that driving should be given up / suspended. Yes, there were a few when I detected undisclosed medical conditions, but if one really wanted to detect unsafe drivers they would have to be examined on the road; checking their ability to react and respond to the unpredictable behaviour of other road users - this would be more appropriate for driving-test examiners to conduct rather than take out another hour or so of the GP's timetable. With the number of over-70s on the roads to do this annually would probably require a dozen or more dedicated examiners in every city!

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - skidpan

, I should mention that eye tests are free every year for over-70s,

Wrong

Eye tests are free for the over 60's.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - sammy1

should mention that eye tests are free every year for over-70s,

Wrong

ERR right as the proposal is for 70 and over the eye test is free! 60 is irrelevant.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - skidpan

should mention that eye tests are free every year for over-70s,

Wrong

ERR right as the proposal is for 70 and over the eye test is free! 60 is irrelevant.

From the Age UK site

Everyone aged 60 and over can receive a free eye test every two years.

But if the Optician says to retest in 12 months then its free annually.

Wife is 64 and has been getting free eye tests now for 4 years.

I have been getting free eye tests for 10 years myself since being diagnosed with Glaucoma.

Check your facts.

Are you saying the proposal is to raise that to 70?

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - RT
I have been getting free eye tests for 10 years myself since being diagnosed with Glaucoma.

If you, or a close relative, have glaucoma then eye tests are free after the age of 40.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - skidpan
I have been getting free eye tests for 10 years myself since being diagnosed with Glaucoma.

If you, or a close relative, have glaucoma then eye tests are free after the age of 40.

Fully aware of that but as far as I am aware I am the first in the family to be affected.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - RT

I think all drivers should have compulsory eye tests, not just the over-70s.

Personally I don't care if the law is changed for over-70s as I have my eyes tested every year anyway - and since having both cataracts done I don't need glasses to drive.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I have just been told I have 2 cataracts. I've had my eyes tested every year since I was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes in 1995.

A new prescription and new specs to come next week.

A lot of older people that I know have demonstrably poor vision and don't wear spectacles.Vanity in some cases.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - bathtub tom

A lot of older people that I know have demonstrably poor vision and don't wear spectacles.Vanity in some cases.

I go out for a meal with my old colleagues a few times each year. I'm the only one that doesn't reach for their spectacles to read the menu, because I wear mine all the time.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Leif

A lot of older people that I know have demonstrably poor vision and don't wear spectacles.Vanity in some cases.

I go out for a meal with my old colleagues a few times each year. I'm the only one that doesn't reach for their spectacles to read the menu, because I wear mine all the time.

They will be reading glasses for near vision, their distance vision could be perfect. I don’t need glasses for daily life but wear them while driving as in my case it’s a legal requirement. I would benefit from reading glasses too, but it’s inconvenient to carry around two pairs of specs.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Smileyman

Totally agree but disagree with only over 70's ... all drivers should be required to have regular eye tests, say every 5 years (or 3 years if problems that cannot be fixed by glasses or contact lenses are likely). This is nothing to do with age, but all to do with safety - especially for the other road users and their passengers.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Avant

When I said that eye tests are free every year for over 70s, I could have added that they're also free every 2 years for over 60s.

Nothing to start an argument about.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - oldroverboy.

I get a basic eye test every 3 months when I go for the check up for my macular degeneration. I also have a full checkup every 6 months at my expense at an opticians. Injections working and monitoring this time. II Don't want to appear in court saying sorry to someone whose child I have hurt or killed. Nobody wants to lose their independence but if I need to stop. Then I hope I will do it with good grace.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Terry W

There is a strong argument for eye tests at regular intervals - say every 5 years post driving test until the age of 60 and every three years thereafter. Poor eyesight and vanity are not the preserve of just the elderly.

Licence renewal should be increased to 80. Keeping it at 70 given the improvements in medical science just creates uncertainty and nugatory work for doctors.

There is also a very strong argument for drug and alcohol testing when eyesight is tested. I don't think statistics exist but I strongly suspect that drugs and alcohol are responsible for far more death and serious injury on the road than 70+ pensioners.

Of curse it may all be a ploy to get cars off he road in pursuit of climate change targets!

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - RT

Licence renewal should be increased to 80. Keeping it at 70 given the improvements in medical science just creates uncertainty and nugatory work for doctors.

For most drivers, their GP isn't involved at all as it's self-certified to retain a B car licence - the GP is only involved for C and higher groups.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - skidpan

When I said that eye tests are free every year for over 70s, I could have added that they're also free every 2 years for over 60s.

Nothing to start an argument about.

I am not argueing, just wanting to put the correct facts.

There is to be honest a large difference between what you posted

  • eye tests are free every year for over 70s

and

  • they're also free every 2 years for over 60s

and nether of those has anything to do with over 70's requiring an eye test every 3 years to retain their licence.

But who is going to ensure that persons who require spectacles to meet the very low standard for driving actually wear them. With one good eye (cataract removed) and one eye that requires a -6 correction I can easily meet the requirements of the DVLA with no specs and both eyes open but in reality I would never drive like that, to me its just not adequate.

Edited by skidpan on 02/08/2019 at 09:46

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - RT
But who is going to ensure that persons who require spectacles to meet the very low standard for driving actually wear them. With one good eye (cataract removed) and one eye that requires a -6 correction I can easily meet the requirements of the DVLA with no specs and both eyes open but in reality I would never drive like that, to me its just not adequate.

I do agree that the minimum standard of eyesight required to to drive is woefully low - my wife can make 6/6 on a good day or 6/9 on a bad day, the limit being 6/12 - but she has uveitis, glaucoma, has lost half the vision in one eye and is clearly unable to drive - the Professor of Opthalmology she sees every 3-4 months agrees that the standard is too low.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - expat

What about psychological tests for applicants for a new license? I suspect that some of them have latent homicidal tendencies.

N/A - Eye Tests At 70 - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

Just received my 7 page health questionnaire, including eyesight, so that I can drive again for another 3 years. I'm alway nervous.