Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - Richard wall
Hi there are there any Range Rover owners out there who can help. Was looking at a approved used one for about £40k. 4 years old just wondering how owners have found them? Read some good stories and some bad. Will be bought from main dealer so will come with 2 year warranty

Regards
Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - oldroverboy.

You might be lucky, but as an ex JLR parts manager in a dealership, I would not contemplate buying ANY of the current crop.

Make sure you get the list of what is excluded. Look at servicing costs.

Make sure you get a "Condition report" BEFORE buying, and if it looks like any of the discs/pads need changing before the next service make sure it is done by the dealer.

Make sure all tyres match and have the same tread to within 2mm.

Has it got a panoramic roof? NOT covered under the warranty, and rarely covered under winscreen protection policies.

It is your choice, but please dont get blinkered and rosy eyed about it.

Instead of spending £40.000 on it why not lease pr PCP a new one if you really must. Perhaps not the same engine nowadays, but you will have a NEW car, with no wear and tear, and with sales being like hens teeth, you can probably get a good deal via Carwow (Others are available) If you do that get gap insurance and ignore the other addons that people will try to flog you.

Good luck, and let us know what you finally do.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - Richard wall
Thank you will let you know driving one on Friday so see how goes
Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - FiestaOwner

Similar thread here:

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=126600

Quite sure the advise won't have changed since then.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - SLO76
Beautiful big machines, real luxury. Test drive it or just sit in it and you’ll want it but don’t go buying one expecting reliability. JLR are by far the least reliable cars on the road today despite the huge price tags.

We often seen them in against Shoguns (yes they were older models, mostly classics and P38’s) but the same thinking applies to later cars. People bought them then got fed up with the failures then wanted into something more reliable. The Shoguns never went wrong. The Range Rovers were mostly punted to auction as there was almost always a major issue that was too costly to sort.

When I was skulking around auctions as a trader I’d often see later examples sitting around or doing loops of the ring, often appearing in the same sales halls for months as dealers didn’t want the hassle of trying to retail them. Even the warranty firms ask double premium on them in fact I believe some will refuse to cover them at all these days due to the complexity and repair cost.

That said, if I ever win the lottery there will be one on my drive alongside a McLaren, a fun supermini based hot hatch (probably a Fiesta) and an Nissan Leaf so that I can out smug the smug.

Edited by SLO76 on 22/07/2019 at 00:52

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - madf

Trouble is: from what I have read and what owners have told me some of the dealers are not technically competent to fault find and fix..

So basically when things go wrong, you end up, paying for their mistakes...And with some dealers charging over £200 per hour... very few hours gives a £1k bill- before parts!

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - badbusdriver

I can very much see the appeal.

But there is no way i'd sink £40k into a 4 year old example of what, according to reliability surveys, is very likely to be amongst the least reliable cars on the road.

I know it doesn't have the same prestige, but i'd be looking at a Landcruiser 4.5 V8 diesel.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - paul 1963

I've got say I agree with everyone, don't do it, 40k will buy you a lot of metal but I really wouldn't touch a 4 year old range rover, ORB's advice is good, if you really must have one get a new one on a pcp deal.

Oh and one for SLO, if the lottery ever does come up don't buy a McLaren, there all a bit "smoke and mirrors" did you know not one single part is actually made by McLaren? it's all bought in and assembled, the only thing they do in house is paint the thing.

( I worked for them for 21 years!)

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - SLO76
“Oh and one for SLO, if the lottery ever does come up don't buy a McLaren, there all a bit "smoke and mirrors" did you know not one single part is actually made by McLaren? it's all bought in and assembled, the only thing they do in house is paint the thing.”

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“( I worked for them for 21 years!)”


Doesn’t make them bad though. I’ve driven one (a 570S) and loved it and the motoring press love them too. It’s rare to hear a negative word. To me they’re beautiful, glorious to drive but useable thanks to most of them not being brick hard on the road. Besides most car manufacturers buy in much of the components they use anyway.

I doubt it’ll be a worry anyway but I’d have one over a Ferrari or Lamborghini etc etc.

Edited by SLO76 on 22/07/2019 at 10:52

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - gordonbennet
I know it doesn't have the same prestige, but i'd be looking at a Landcruiser 4.5 V8 diesel.

I agree with that choice, though among those in the know the issue of prestige is the complete reverse, decent depreciation curve too, which only gets better as the vehicle ages.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - Stackman II

My son-in-law works for a Land Rover dealer. He regularly drives various Range Rovers and RR Sport models.

Even these demonstrators are regularly plagued by faults in the air suspension, climate controls and infotainment.

They are lovely things in which to sit and ride around but as an ownership prospect not to be recommended.

There are plenty of other large SUVs out there, although not having the cachet of the RR, a Q7 or Mercedes would be a better proposition.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - daveyjp
Just in from a friend.

They have checked in to their local Land Rover dealership.

'Classic entertainment. Our second home. A constant stream of customers kicking off. I would suggest building a better car.'

There is then a picture of her husband showing another irate customer how to use the coffee machine.
Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - badbusdriver

I agree with that choice, though among those in the know the issue of prestige is the complete reverse, decent depreciation curve too, which only gets better as the vehicle ages.

I'm with you there GB, i'd have the Landcruiser any day of the week over the Rangie (or indeed any of the other supposedly premium SUV's from BMW, Audi or Merc). Like you say, the residuals are rock solid, there are a couple of 2008 cars (with low-ish miles) on Autotrader for £30 and £34k, but this 2014 example caught my eye,

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20190524830...1

The issue of 'prestige' was really from the point of view that i think it unlikely someone looking at a Rangie would be tempted by a Toyota!.

Edited by badbusdriver on 22/07/2019 at 19:50

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - badbusdriver

not one single part is actually made by McLaren? it's all bought in and assembled, the only thing they do in house is paint the thing.

Why exactly does this make Mclaren "all smoke and mirrors"?

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I agree that statement is silly. Way off the thread about the Range Rover.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I agree that statement is silly. Way off the thread about the Range Rover.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I agree that statement is silly. Way off the thread about the Range Rover.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - dan86

I agree that statement is silly. Way off the thread about the Range Rover.

So correct he said it three times ;-)

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - paul 1963

I agree it is way off topic but it's hardly a silly statement, if you read the blurb you get the distinct impression that there all hand built by serious looking chaps dressed in grey but it's simply not true, lovely cars and beautifully finished but hand built?.....no

I worked on the F1 side of the business starting with a certain Mr Mansels car and left a week after Ron, now bar the engine they are entirely hand built in Woking.

Anyway back to our friend's desire for a Range Rover.....

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - gordonbennet
The issue of 'prestige' was really from the point of view that i think it unlikely someone looking at a Rangie would be tempted by a Toyota!.

For some reason i can't view AT links, there is a Toyota approved used 63 plate with 25k miles @ £47k, which i'd be looking at if in the market for probably the best full size SUV made to date.

It's entirely possible most people looking at RR's have never seen one and know nothing about these LC 200's.

Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - daveyjp
A quick update on what turned into a saga which hasn't ended.

Friend gave updates up to August. At one stage they actually ordered a takeaway to be delivered to te dealership as they had been there so long.

Tonight the latest update. They were overjoyed to get their RR back after 5 weeks in the dealership being fixed,

They hadn't driven off the forecourt when the dash lit up like Blackpool front. At 8pm they were still awaiting a courtesy car.
Range Rover - Range Rover vogue 4.4 - Richard wall
Thanks all I think I’ll stay clear.