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N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - Zippy123

We live on an unmade, un-adopted road. The speed limit set by the owners of the road is 15MPH and it is signed as such.

There is a local soccer ground nearby and occasionally away fans use the road to park up for the game, after which, they invariably hare off, which is dangerous as horse riders use the road as well as kids and it is quite narrow.

The other night, I was surprised to see a police car there with a speed gun and some people had clearly been pulled over.

Given that the road is privately owned (though a right of way) what rights do the police have to stop people on it for speeding - if any?

(I am glad they are doing it because its only a matter of time before someone gets hurt.)

Edited by Zippy123 on 04/07/2019 at 18:46

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - skidpan

As far as I am aware under the road traffic act any location where the public are able to access is covered by its provisions. That includes, as an example supermarket car parks.

But I doubt that the police could enforce the 15mph limit set by the owners, speed limits are set by the authorities.

But they could still take action for antisocial or dangerous activities under the RTA.

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - Falkirk Bairn

Dangerous / careless driving is an offence anywhere, anytime the Police chooses.

If the public has access then the police can act.

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - Bromptonaut

My own quick response is that I don't see any way the police can issue speeding tickets for 15mph - there's no order in place for the limit. Neither do I think the default 30 for streetlit roads could apply as it's not an adopted highway.

However if there are reports of sub standard or dangerous driving, or of anti-social use of motor vehicles the police can intervene as it's land accessible to the public. If evidence of speed is needed to evidence the behaviours I've described above then a properly calibrated police 'speed gun' would be a good tool.

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - alan1302

My own quick response is that I don't see any way the police can issue speeding tickets for 15mph - there's no order in place for the limit. Neither do I think the default 30 for streetlit roads could apply as it's not an adopted highway.

However if there are reports of sub standard or dangerous driving, or of anti-social use of motor vehicles the police can intervene as it's land accessible to the public. If evidence of speed is needed to evidence the behaviours I've described above then a properly calibrated police 'speed gun' would be a good tool.

Yes, expect they were showing them what speed they were doing and have a talk to them

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - Gerry Sanderson

Plod there in an advisory capacity in the interests of road safety.

Cannot enforce the 15 mph speed limit as there has to be a Traffic order stipulating this limit which the council will not do on a private road if that.

Having said that because of public access it could be a road as pointed out above so insurance etc dangerous careless driving applies and other road traffic act matters.

dvd

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - carl233

You would think considering the state of the country PC plod would have better things to do than this. Cannot see how breaking the limit could be enforced as mentioned as there would be no order in place to see it through.

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - Bromptonaut

You would think considering the state of the country PC plod would have better things to do than this. Cannot see how breaking the limit could be enforced as mentioned as there would be no order in place to see it through.

But what if there's more serious dangerous driving or anti-social behaviour going on?

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - Zippy123

Re Plod having better things to do.....

I think there is a need to tackle the smaller stuff, else it leads to a pattern of bigger offences. It worked in NY, of course they spent money on the police.

Was speaking to the bloke that manages the road for the resident's association.

Apparently the results from the police are as follows:

2 x driving without due care and attention.

1 x damaging property - heavy van parked on pavements which had signs saying no parking - shallow pipes - probably difficult to prove and likely an insurance claim as residents complained of issues when car was there. Drove off without leaving details and police action after 48 hours.

2 x no insurance - cars insured but not correct driver.

Best result till last...1 x over the limit (twice over apparently) - took spirits in water bottle to the game.

N.a - Speed Gun / Private Road - jc2

I seem to remember the term"private property to which the public have access"-used to me when someone hit my correctly parked car.