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All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - trebor1
Had a interesting discussion at the weekend ref number plates and the two plate changes in a year. There was a debate about what looks newer a 18 reg or 68reg , my 11 year old son said the 18 plate because its obviously 2018 but he thought the 68 could be later 2008 or later 2018 he was unsure!! My wife says she doesn’t get the September numbers so the 18 looks best to her. My 86 year old father said no idea its just numbers... I do understand the format it but its made me wonder how many other people don't? Anyone fancy asking a few different age people and them writing back?


Also does it make a difference when selling? Does one format hold value better or is it irrelevant?


Thanks
All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Ethan Edwards

I'm in Singapore at the moment.. They appear to have kept our old system of ABC123D but simply added another number eg ABC1234D and the age digit seems to no longer apply. Also there is a lot of new metal carrying numbers like SLT 170H I keep thinking 1970..oh wait. Cherished numbers retained?

Obviously the UK had to have a system to keep the car dealers happy and encourage frivolous car changing. Just to get the newest plate.

Now whose system looks more sensible? I'm voting Singapore.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 23/04/2019 at 15:37

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Andrew-T

Obviously the UK had to have a system to keep the car dealers happy and encourage frivolous car changing. Just to get the newest plate.

Just as with our road system, our car-registration system was never designed with enough space for unforeseen growth. Before WW2 the original 2-letter, 4-number method started to run out in some authorities, so we got the 3-letter, 3-number system, which was reversed when they started to run out in the 1950s.

In the early 60s the suffix year-letter appeared, changing in January until 1967, when E ended in September (IIRC). The alphabet continued for about 20 years until the A-prefix appeared. By the end of the century even that could not keep up with demand and the letter changed every 6 months, as now.

One consideration was to limit the number of characters to 7 for easier memorisation. By having two regional letters, two year digits and three random letters, this was achieved while allowing more possible combinations.

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - SLO76
I don’t think people care the same as they used to but I’d say that the earlier plate perversely looks the newer with no confusion as to the age.

I was a salesman when they swapped from the annual plate change and I was very negative about the idea. Yes it took the pressure off the DVLA and dealers by spreading registrations more but it took the joy from having a brand new car for a year away. We used to work late on the 1st of August putting new cars out the door and it was a real event. It also caused a huge increase in early depreciation.

I miss the old days.
All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - elekie&a/c doctor
I think most people are totally confused by the current registration plate system. I often ask people the age of their car, the response is often something like A or D reg , the first digit of the plate. Right, so that’s that then.
All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - nick62

............ and only in this country could they have "regional" letters that almost bear no resemblance as to where they are registered / sold.

Wife's car is a Preston mark (PO) and mine is Shrewsbury (DU), yet they were both from Liverpool which should mean they are both Mx. Work that one out?

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - RT

............ and only in this country could they have "regional" letters that almost bear no resemblance as to where they are registered / sold.

Wife's car is a Preston mark (PO) and mine is Shrewsbury (DU), yet they were both from Liverpool which should mean they are both Mx. Work that one out?

DU would have been issued by the Shrewsbury office - but they closed all the regional offices

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Andrew-T

Wife's car is a Preston mark (PO) and mine is Shrewsbury (DU), yet they were both from Liverpool which should mean they are both Mx. Work that one out?

If your car(s) was/were imported they may have registrations connected with the port of entry or the central reception depot for the maker. Many Fiats used to come with Bristol (Avonmouth?) registrations rather than from the area of the original dealership.

Edited by Andrew-T on 23/04/2019 at 20:04

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Graham567
Mines a 59 plate.You would think a 60 plate would come after 59 but no,it's a 10 plate.Go figure.
All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - sammy1

The most confusing part currently is where the 6ty something plate moves into the new year for Jan/Feb so 68plate moves from 2018 to 2019 so what's is on the V5 is the only way to tell the year. Private plates are a lot more interesting!

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Bilboman

There's a lot to be said for the simple system used in Spain since 2001, with 4 numerals and three consonants, with the first letter the last element to change in rotation and all 7 spaces used. No one seems to be in a rush to get the "latest" registration letter - funny, that!
With the old system, drivers of cars with registrations from other regions - particularly the "BI", "SS" and "VI" from the Basque Country - used to suffer vandalism and extremely frequent police stops whilst travelling in holiday seasons.
Registrations are issued centrally with no personalisation or reserved sequences allowed, so most of the 10,000 vehicles with registrations ending in "BMW" are not actually BMWs. Banning vowels helped to eliminated "naughty" words - mostly (I have seen a couple of plates with F followed by guess which two letters!)
Cloning and faking of registration plates doesn't seem to be a problem here, with only one government supplier and extremely stiff penalties for abuse - even a blackened-out "0" is an MoT fail or on-the-spot fine.

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - nick62

Wife's car is a Preston mark (PO) and mine is Shrewsbury (DU), yet they were both from Liverpool which should mean they are both Mx. Work that one out?

If your car(s) was/were imported they may have registrations connected with the port of entry or the central reception depot for the maker. Many Fiats used to come with Bristol (Avonmouth?) registrations rather than from the area of the original dealership.

I think it would be tough going getting a car transporter ship up the severn as far as Shrewsbury. :-)

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Andrew-T

<< I think it would be tough going getting a car transporter ship up the severn as far as Shrewsbury. :-) >>

Depends what you mean by 'from Liverpool'. Dealers get cars from various sources, quite often after they have been registered. Many Peugeot rental cars carry K registrations (for Coventry) without having taken to the road there.

And there's no need to 'go figure' about 60 following 59 - if a car is registered between September and March, 50 is added to the last two digits of the year, otherwise not. Not difficult.

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - nick62

And there's no need to 'go figure' about 60 following 59 - if a car is registered between September and March, 50 is added to the last two digits of the year, otherwise not. Not difficult.

Pedant mode engaged -

if a car is registered between September and February, 50 is added to the last two digits of the year, .......................................

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Andrew-T

if a car is registered between September and February, 50 is added to the last two digits of the year, .......................................

That would depend on how you interpret 'between', I suggest .... :-)

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - trebor1
One of my friends has a strong preference for the year ( Ie 17, 18 , 19 ) plate saying the later number change to him looks older on cars. Its interesting how different people see this, the majority of people I've made the effort to speak with prefer the solid year preference, I was originally indifferent but have to say for the first time I'm giving it thought when I next change.
All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - oldroverboy.
Not that I am madly bothered but thr first two letters on my last car were FY... gets a few questions as to what it means...
All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - John F

A good example of a question with a premise which is unacceptable to many people, and so unanswerable - apart from 'neither...and we don't care'. We have three cars, average age 23yrs. One has a V suffix, one has an X prefix and one has a distinctive vanity plate (relates to car rather than its owner - it will stay with the car if and when sold).

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Bilboman

Surely the last laugh goes to Viz, and their classic "Letterbocks" advice:
Save money on expensive personalised car number plates by simply changing your name to match your existing plate.
Mr KVL 74IY, Lincoln

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - concrete

I always think the American system is quite simple. You buy or are issued with a number plate which stays with you. When you change cars you simply swop the plates over. No numerical snobbery, no excessive sums for a personal plate. Same with insurance I am told. One policy covers all your cars, within reason, because you can only drive one car at a time. Fairly straightforward I think. Would not be contemplated over here. It removes the revenue source concerning number plates and insurance policies. Motoring, in the UK especially, suffers from the 'Pelican Syndrome". No matter which you turn there is a huge bill in front of you!

Cheers Concrete

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Big John

I always think the American system is quite simple. You buy or are issued with a number plate which stays with you. When you change cars you simply swop the plates over.

I think it may also be the same in Begium

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - nick62

Same in Switzerland AFAIK.

Edited by nick62 on 28/04/2019 at 02:13

All cars - Number Plates - 2 Changes a yr which is best? - Bilboman

In some cantons of Switzerland, number plates are fixed to the car with a locking mechanism and can be switched between the owner's cars since, logically, the insured owner can only drive one car at a time.
Conversely, in Greece the police actually remove number plates of cars parked illegally or with unpaid fines accrued and the owner has to get to the police station and pay up. Obviously, driving without number plates is instant jail time!