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Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - The Palmist

Hello Folks,

In the market for a XC90 with a budget of up to 20K.

Went for a test drive today to a Volvo dealer to try a 14 plate 36000 on the clock vehicle.

The car won't start so they had to jump start it (took a few attempts), the car was then left running for 10 minutes before I took it for a 15 minutes drive.

Ride was good and when we got back I switched the engine off and tried starting the car but it won't start again.

This makes me think there is more wrong than just dead battery.

I am total novice when it comes to cars so thanks in advance for your wisdom.

Regards

P

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - SLO76
Wouldn’t be concerned. Cars that sit for any length of time on a dealers forecourt will often have a flat battery, especially if it’s a complex motor full of toys like an XC90. As a trainee salesman my first job every morning was to go round and start every car in the yard to make sure they’d be ready to roll if someone wanted a drive. This often involved a jump or me under the bonnet swapping over a battery.

As long as it’s an approved used car with a full Volvo service history and comes with at least a years approved used warranty I wouldn’t be worried. Just make sure that if you buy you make it clear that you want a new battery fitted as this one clearly isn’t holding charge.

Smashing big cars these btw, I was considering one a while back but decided against a DPF equipped diesel due to my low mileage usage as it was bound to cause issues.

Edited by SLO76 on 24/02/2019 at 15:48

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - The Palmist

Thank you.

It is an approved Volvo and comes with 12 months warranty.

They have service but it is some Volvo and some independent which concerned me seeing the mileage is just 35000.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - SLO76
At £20k and with such a complex car I’d leave it unless it has a full Volvo main dealer history. Someone has scrimped here and you have to ask what else have they done on the cheap? Rubbish tyres? Cheap brake pads? Get one that’s been looked after properly unless there’s a big big discount.
Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - Andrew-T
At £20k and with such a complex car I’d leave it unless it has a full Volvo main dealer history. Someone has scrimped here and you have to ask what else have they done on the cheap? Rubbish tyres? Cheap brake pads? Get one that’s been looked after properly unless there’s a big big discount.

Well OK, but 'independent' doesn't necessarily mean scrimping. The indie I used until he recently retired was OK enough to look after Haynes' paraplegic son's car, which was (I think) a Porsche or Ferrari. If the original Volvo warranty hasn't been voided it should be safe? Anyway it's a haggling point to get the price down.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - SLO76
“Well OK, but 'independent' doesn't necessarily mean scrimping.”

You’re right but unless it’s a genuine Volvo specialist It’s highly unlikely they’ll know every aspect of this car. They certainly won’t have access to manufacturers technical bulletins, software updates or main dealer diagnostics.

I’ve known and used plenty of independent garages over the years and the majority of them bulk buy oil and use the same stuff in every motor which with today’s highly complex engines is simply unacceptable and will lead to problems. A good independent specialist can be better than the main dealer but don’t bank of backstreet Joe having the first clue about maintaining one of these.
Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - The Palmist

The sales person gave a spiel about someone leaving air con and radio on while the car was switched off and parked and how these modern cars leak battery. They also couldn't find the service history for me to see.

walking away from this one.

Even though it is Volvo main dealer ...sone thing just doesn't feel right

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - gordonbennet

They also couldn't find the service history for me to see.

walking away from this one.

Well i never, are they still coming up with that eyewash? the sales bod wasn't in flares sporting a Mexican moustachio perchance?

You are right to walk away for the carefully misplaced SH alone.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - Happy Blue!

Happened to me a few years ago. Made a mistake buying a car blind without leaving myself a get out if I wasn't happy. Bought a pig of an XC90. Sold it in the three months for a £3,000 loss against a S-Max which was one of my better deals.

My current Mercedes has the full history on the computer at any main dealer for all to see. Service it at the dealers and get any work done (like brake discs and pads etc) at the local specialist using Merc parts but less than 50% of the labour charge.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - SLO76
Correct to walk but every car viewed is a lesson learned.
Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - oldroverboy.

A coupe of years ago, I went with elderly friends to a franchise main dealer to look at a car, Fabia..out of warranty, but would have had 1 year approved warranty.

Car broke down driving off the forecourt. Test drive cancelled... Oh.. we'll fix it for you...just sign here... No thank you very much..

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - daveyjp
I assume this was a diesel. If so 36,000 over 5 years isn't good for it.

Keep looking!
Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - SLO76
I assume this was a diesel. If so 36,000 over 5 years isn't good for it. Keep looking!

Not necessarily. It may not be a huge annual mileage but it might mostly have been longer distance use. If you want one of these it needs to be a diesel.
Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - pd

In fairness to the dealer Volvo D5 engines are a pig to jump start. Very difficult to get enough current through a set of jump leads with a really flat battery.

If the battery was no longer holding a proper charge they'll never start a D5. The batteries are the size of a small car and once they go, they go, and need replacing to start properly.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - barney100
If a new battery cures it then not such a big problem. If it dosen't then it's walk away time. There are lots of these cars around so if you are at all unsure it is best to go elsewhere.
Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - John F

In fairness to the dealer Volvo D5 engines are a pig to jump start. Very difficult to get enough current through a set of jump leads with a really flat battery.

Some jump leads are too cheap, with weak springs on the crocodile clips and thin resistant aluminium wire instead of thick copper. I was once caught out by this false economy, but fortunately had access to another set of jump leads which, when attached together with the cheapies, did the trick!

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - The Palmist

Sorry I am not following..how is 36000 miles over five years not good?

Are you saying it needs to be driven more ?

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - dan86

Some people on here think that just because of low mileage diesels will self destruct and cause the owner eye wateringly big Bill's. Granted some will cause DPF and other issues but a lot of the problems have been ironed out now. We've had our 1.6 dci qashqai for just under a year and it does a mixture of driving but normal weekday stuff is to and from school shops ect no problems so far. According to some on here that should of broken down hundreds of times by now because its Renault underneath.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - badbusdriver

Some people on here think that just because of low mileage diesels will self destruct and cause the owner eye wateringly big Bill's. Granted some will cause DPF and other issues but a lot of the problems have been ironed out now. We've had our 1.6 dci qashqai for just under a year and it does a mixture of driving but normal weekday stuff is to and from school shops ect no problems so far. According to some on here that should of broken down hundreds of times by now because its Renault underneath.

Firstly, that is a huge exaggeration!, nobody on here would expect your car to have broken down at under a year old, at least not for anything serious (and given your car is under a year old, it is perhaps a little premature to be bragging about its reliablity!).

Secondly, it isn't just a case of people thinking low mileage diesels will 'self destruct' (again, a somewhat exaggerated term), because there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this sort of use WILL cause dpf problems. This may not require a new engine, but it will be very expensive to put right.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - Andrew-T

<< nobody on here would expect your car to have broken down at under a year old, at least not for anything serious (and given your car is under a year old, it is perhaps a little premature to be bragging about its reliablity!).>>

BBD - just to point out, you may have drawn a false conclusion: this car may not be 'under a year old', Dan86 has only said that is how long he has owned it ....

Edited by Andrew-T on 27/02/2019 at 09:37

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - dan86

You're right it's not under a year old I bought it at 3 years old with full main dealer service history. I felt I got a good deal on it as well. Knocked £1500 of off the asking price 3 services and 4 year warranty backed by the manufacturer.

Volvo XC90 - Car not starting on test drive - dan86

Some people on here think that just because of low mileage diesels will self destruct and cause the owner eye wateringly big Bill's. Granted some will cause DPF and other issues but a lot of the problems have been ironed out now. We've had our 1.6 dci qashqai for just under a year and it does a mixture of driving but normal weekday stuff is to and from school shops ect no problems so far. According to some on here that should of broken down hundreds of times by now because its Renault underneath.

Firstly, that is a huge exaggeration!, nobody on here would expect your car to have broken down at under a year old, at least not for anything serious (and given your car is under a year old, it is perhaps a little premature to be bragging about its reliablity!).

Secondly, it isn't just a case of people thinking low mileage diesels will 'self destruct' (again, a somewhat exaggerated term), because there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this sort of use WILL cause dpf problems. This may not require a new engine, but it will be very expensive to put right.

It may be an exaggeration and very right it is but on this site and others if some one wishes to own a diesel they are told how it will all end with big Bill's. Many of the dpf issues seem to have been resolved now. Some manufacturers are having more problems than others but most have sussed it out, all new technology has issues and as it matures the bugs are worked out.

My lorry does short city hops all day and doesn't suffer from any dpf issues even if u switch off mid regen like I said they seem to have got on top of the issues with dpf. And it has an automated manual gearbox it's ok but nothing special a proper torque converter auto like our other vehicles would be better but this has much improved mpg.

Edited by dan86 on 27/02/2019 at 14:08