Any - how long does a car last? - barney100

I know it's a how long is a piece of string type question but at what age does your car reach before you change it or do you keep it going regardless 'til it's had it?

Any - how long does a car last? - nellyjak

Impossible to answer..too many variables.

Could be 1 year or 20 years...or more...or less...or anything inbetween.!

Any - how long does a car last? - RT

In recent decades, I've only changed car when my needs change, eg from 2wd saloon to 4wd estate - or in one case because I'd lost faith during the long warranty period because of the time spent off-road.

In a different position, I'd still have most of my cars if I had somewhere to park them and a good multicar insurance.

Any - how long does a car last? - madf

I expect my Honda Jazz to outlive me. It is 7 years old, I am 71.

Any - how long does a car last? - Sulphur Man

Both barely run in ;)

Any - how long does a car last? - sandy56

I have had cars for 6 - 7 years, and some for a year. It depends. I think it comes down to do you like using it and driving it? and are you willing to chase down parts once it gets more than seven years old?

Modern cars seem to be designed for a life of about 5-7 years and 150,000 miles, after that most main dealers are not interested, parts are unobtainable.

So if you want to keep your car for a long time- say ten years, or more, you have to be careful what you buy.

Alternatively just keep it as long as you can economically keep it on the road, with modern diesels that may not be very long.

Cars I wish I had kept- Ford Escort RS200, Jag 420G, Granada Mk3, to name a few.

Any - how long does a car last? - Bladerrw

Cars I wish I had kept- Ford Escort RS200

Care to tell us a bit more about that one Sandy?

Any - how long does a car last? - SLO76
I’ve taken 15yr old cars in as part-ex off older punters that’ve been in near perfect condition and running order. It was my early days as a teainee salesman that I took a fondness for cheap motors as half the old trade-ins we were taking were still in perfectly serviceable order despite their age and value. Depending on the local environment and the models tendency to rot a car can last as long as you’re prepared to fund repairs and maintenance.
Any - how long does a car last? - Car

How long a car lasts depends on

Does the car meet the owners current needs.

Does the owner still desire their current car.

Not been so badly damaged that it is unsafe or uneconomical to repair

Owners view on what they consider to be non wear & tear repsirs/replacements and whether they would replace it if the cost of wear and tear repairs/replacements exceed the cars value.

If diesel car is the owner going to be affected by things such as ULEZ or other restrictions.

My current car is just over 14 years old and could last to 500,000 miles at which time it would be 50 years old and I would be in my 80's but I will probably replace the car well before then ??

Any - how long does a car last? - Pica

I have been wondering the same with regard to how long my cars may last. I have an immaculate 9-year-old Honda CRV iDtec Auto with a DPF filter I bought the car new and it has been faultless over 83000 miles. It is not worth very much now but despite lots of short runs mixed with the odd long run I have never even had the DPF warning light illuminated. I never drive it under 2 miles as I walk/cycle, I ensure the car is properly serviced and last year had all the fluids changed and it seems to work just fine. I am going to keep it until it dies. I have had the same approach with my 13-year-old Mustang GT V8 also owned from new and this has been faultless too possibly helped with the old school technology on it which means it is relatively easy to work on.

I have been looking to see if there is anything I would like to replace them with but nothing is pushing my buttons right now so I will just carry on saving money until my head is turned. I pretend I have a car loan payment to pay so have now saved enough to replace the car when the time comes.

Any - how long does a car last? - Leif

I sold my Nissan Micro when it was ten years old, and a high mileage, repairs were getting expensive. I scrapped my Ford Ka at ten years of age, as the repairs needed to pass the MOT were excessive. It had done about 160,000 miles. I should have sold it after 8 years, as it did get costly to maintain. I sold my VW Up when it was 6 years old, with 130,000 miles, I wanted to get rid of it before it started costing serious money. I do high mileage and drive on salted roads, which do the cars in.

My neighbours Toyota is 15 years old and doing nicely, a bit of rust is appearing. Other neighbours have old cars too, they seem to soldier on. Then again my neighbours are all retired or as good as.

Depending on the local environment and the models tendency to rot a car can last as long as you’re prepared to fund repairs and maintenance.

I might keep my Polo for a long time, since I will retire in a year or two, and yearly mileage will drop. For the small cars I drive, I found it cheaper to buy a new one before repair bills escalated, due to high mileage. And the Up was much more efficient than the Ford Ka, so it was saving me £1000 a year in fuel which in effect covered the purchase cost. Plus newer cars are safer with better NCAP ratings. A modern 5 stars is much better than 5 stars ten years ago.

Any - how long does a car last? - FoxyJukebox

Now retired and only sharing one car with my wife-we drove an Audi A3 for 11 years and 90k miles before part exchanging last year. We didn't fancy trusting our luck further.

I sniffed a new cam belt coming, new brake shoes and discs, seeping shock absorbers, a noisy exhaust, a few rattles, a sunken drivers seat and the need for at least a minimum of two new tyres.

I'll check the MOT website in the spring and see if the new owner safely got it through it's test without any advisables. I expect it probably will!

Any - how long does a car last? - Andrew-T

It depends on how emotionally attached you are to your car. While it is fairly new you probably make more effort to look after it, and while it never lets you down you keep it in an honoured place on the drive (or under cover if it's lucky). Once your trust is lost, you can become only too eager to pass it on to some anonymous new owner, especially if you fall for the simple formula 'costs more to fix than it's worth'.

As one ages, the urge to change cars dwindles. I got my present 'daily' 10 years ago, and it has been written off and repaired - superficial damage only - because nothing has ever gone wrong with it. It always averages 60mpg overall, doesn't cost a lot to insure, and does what is required of it. What's not to like (in that ugly phrase) ?

Any - how long does a car last? - Steveieb
Let us into the secret. What car is it ?
Any - how long does a car last? - John F

On average, 14 years in the UK. Longer in the USA. But on a day in November on the London to Brighton road, you will see dozens of cars well over 100 years old. Conversely, it is not unknown for a car to be written off when on its first journey from the factory - especially in Germany where many new owners travel to the factory to take delivery.

Any - how long does a car last? - Andrew-T

Conversely, it is not unknown for a car to be written off when on its first journey from the factory - especially in Germany where many new owners travel to the factory to take delivery.

... or it falls off the transporter ....

Any - how long does a car last? - Andrew-T
What car is it ?

If you are asking me, it's the Pug 207SW many of you are tired of hearing about.

Any - how long does a car last? - Theophilus

"At what age does your car reach before you change it" ... mine last until my daughter / brother-in-law / friend's car reaches terminal velocity & then I pass on my car (usually around 5-6 yr old) as a replacement for their 10-14 year old model (previously handed down by me a decade ago!)

Any - how long does a car last? - movilogo
HJ once said economic life of a modern car is 7 years.

Old cars with simple electrics will last a long time. Modern caes with complex electronics too much of liability outside warranty.
Any - how long does a car last? - madf
HJ once said economic life of a modern car is 7 years. Old cars with simple electrics will last a long time. Modern cars with complex electronics too much of liability outside warranty.

My experience of modern electronics is of great reliability Far better than mechanical.. Of course if you refer to cars made by people like Mercedes or BMW Or Range Rover, I agree with you..

Any - how long does a car last? - barney100

This doesn't square up with the high number of older cars of the makes you refer to on the road. In a previous post I said I was pleasantly surprised by the high number of older French cars on the road despite the disparaging remarks they get. Volvo used to boast 19 years as a life expectancy for their cars. It is interesting to see just what is driving around in the older car category, if 7 years is the expectancy then anything older must be a bonus.

Any - how long does a car last? - Avant

HJ said 'economic life', not 'maximum life'

Economic life is the expected period of time during which an asset remains useful to the average owner.

So of course there will be plenty of cars which last longer than 7 years, if they are properly looked after and maintained. But there is an age of car at which an average owner may find the car more expensive to run than makes economic sense (to that owner).

Any - how long does a car last? - Andrew-T

Economic life is the expected period of time during which an asset remains useful to the average owner.

... there is an age of car at which an average owner may find the car more expensive to run than makes economic sense (to that owner).

As the market value of a car falls naturally during its life, there comes a point (probably averaging about 7 years) when the resale value regained by repairs is less than the cost of doing them. When a car's value bottoms out after about 10 years, that formula will say 'don't repair it, flog it' (ignoring the cost of finding another vehicle). Lucky bangernomics practitioners.

Any - how long does a car last? - edlithgow

But there is an age of car at which an average owner may find the car more expensive to run than makes economic sense (to that owner).

I'm never sure what "economic sense" means in this context.

It often seems to be taken to mean until the cost of a repair exceeds the market value of the car.

That doesn't make "economic sense" to me.

It COULD make sense if you take THAT to mean that its cheaper to buy an identical replacement than to repair your existing vehicle, but for old cars that is seldom the case in practice, because of (a) limited availability and (b) devil-you-know.

If I had to replace my car I'd probably have to get something much newer, which is likely to be a lot more trouble.

Any - how long does a car last? - Leif

But there is an age of car at which an average owner may find the car more expensive to run than makes economic sense (to that owner).

I'm never sure what "economic sense" means in this context.

It often seems to be taken to mean until the cost of a repair exceeds the market value of the car.

I work out the cost of ownership per year, which equates to the cost of fuel, maintenance and repairs and decide on that basis. So if the car is worth £4,000, costs £1,000 a year to maintain (and is expected to last four more years, the cost each year is £2,000 i.e. maintenance plus deprecation. If I buy a new car and a similar calculation works out about the same or less, then the new car is viable. When I bought a VW Up, the fuel savings alone made it viable to buy new, throw in the huge repair bills and I was saving large amounts of money by buying a new car. I should have done it after seven years not ten.

Obviously if you do lower mileage, don't travel on bad or salted roads, and have a friendly spanner monkey working for peanuts, then the motivation to replace the car is much less.

That said, new cars are safer, in part because the standards are improving each year, assuming both cars have similar NCAP ratings, and in part because a new car is sounder than a ten year old car riddled with rust.

Any - how long does a car last? - edlithgow

But there is an age of car at which an average owner may find the car more expensive to run than makes economic sense (to that owner).

I'm never sure what "economic sense" means in this context.

It often seems to be taken to mean until the cost of a repair exceeds the market value of the car.

Obviously if you do lower mileage, don't travel on bad or salted roads, and have a friendly spanner monkey working for peanuts, then the motivation to replace the car is much less.

All of the above, except I'm not friendly. I swear at myself quite a lot when spannering, and I don't get any peanuts.

The sums are a bit different too because (excluding motor caravans which also provided accomodation) I dont think I've ever spent more than 400 quid on a car.

Probably because they were old/low tech/simple, they didn't generate expensive bills and if they had I would probably have scrapped them then, though now they might be proto-classics and justify some expense. Main item was brake disks every b***** MOT.

DIY probably generally saved more in the Yook than it does in Taiwan because mechanics here are cheap, but in both places my insistence on it occaisionally cost me a car that might otherwise have been saved.

For example, I bought a nice condition Volvo 340 for 120 quid that I could never get to run right and eventually abandoned, which I now realise probably just had a simple vacuum leak. Feel bad about that.

The current car here was 15 thousand NTWD (About 300 quid 8 years ago, around 400 now. Ouch! I wish you people would STOP messing with my savings.) It was the worst looking car I'd ever had when I bought it and looks a lot worse now.

Depreciation isn't really a factor. Its unsaleable but I'd get about 120 quid if I scrapped it. Tax and insurance about 200 quid, probably a bit less than the UK, and fuel about half.

Your safety point is of course valid, but I'll ignore it until just before impact when I might have time to realise I've made a terrible mistake.

Any - how long does a car last? - Leif

What on Earth is 'the Yook'?

Any - how long does a car last? - John F

What on Earth is 'the Yook'?

A small island near Yerp.

Any - how long does a car last? - Leif

What on Earth is 'the Yook'?

A small island near Yerp.

10 out of 10 for being cryptic. I thought it was either the Yukon, or Ukraine. Would never have guessed the U.K.

Any - how long does a car last? - edlithgow

What on Earth is 'the Yook'?

A small island near Yerp.

10 out of 10 for being cryptic. I thought it was either the Yukon, or Ukraine. Would never have guessed the U.K.

Context provides clues.

MOT, for example, could stand for Moldavian Organisation (of) Transport, but you know it doesn't.

Any - how long does a car last? - Leif

What on Earth is 'the Yook'?

A small island near Yerp.

10 out of 10 for being cryptic. I thought it was either the Yukon, or Ukraine. Would never have guessed the U.K.

Context provides clues.

MOT, for example, could stand for Moldavian Organisation (of) Transport, but you know it doesn't.

Nope. You referred to Taiwan, where you now live, so you could have lived anywhere. Yook is such a bizarre term for the UK, never heard it before, would never have guessed UK. As for MOT, I assumed you were casually referring to some foreign equivalent to the UK one, especially since you refer to Stazi neighbours which I've never come across in the UK, must have been the nature of people in that exotic 'Yook' place. Still give you 10 out of 10 for impenetrability.

Must admit I find some internet jargon bizarre. Chooks means chickens. DH means husband. Sigh.

Any - how long does a car last? - edlithgow

Must admit I find some internet jargon bizarre. Chooks means chickens. DH means husband. Sigh.

Chooks is Australian ("strine"). You have to expect bizarre from Australia. Consider the Kangaroo...

My grumbling about "you people" messing with my savings might have been another Yook clue.

I doubt many Alaskans or Ukrainians keep savings in Sterling, and I wouldn't have if I'd seen Brexit coming. Should have paid more attention.

Getting it out now seems like closing the stable door, but I suppose things could quite easily get worse.

Any - how long does a car last? - Leif

Chooks is UK slang too, widely used on UK forums. It took me ages to realise what they were clucking on about.

Must admit the Ing is getting a bit cold these days.

Any - how long does a car last? - Engineer Andy

I know it's a how long is a piece of string type question but at what age does your car reach before you change it or do you keep it going regardless 'til it's had it?

When it becomes uneconomic to fix compared to replacing it over the same time frame, especially if its structure needs work due to corrosion: that can involve serious money.

When you can afford to do so and something sufficiently better is available at the right price?

I'm currently keeping hold of my 13yo (owned from new) Mazda3 as I'm currently between careers and don't want to spend well over £10k on a replacement when I could easily keep mine going for (not including servicing) £500 tops in wear-and-tear repairs for the next 2-5 years. This may well change if my career change completes sooner than expected and a reasonable salary gives me the option of changing car again.

That doesn't mean I'll buy a new car there and then, as I think value for money is very important (even if I won the lottery, which I haven't) and won't buy unless the replacement is significantly better than what I've got, meeting all the minimum and preferably desired criteria for drive, practicality, reliability, cost of ownership and customer service.

Before I jacked in my career, I actually looked for a replacement for my car and found nothing really moved me to shell out my hard earned for a new car - what was on offer that I could afford just wasn't good enough on these fronts to merit a change.

I personally couldn't care less what age my car is if it does the job it was intended for without problems, hitting my wallet or ticking me off via the customer service experience. I don't like change for change's sake - if it ain't broke, then don't fix it. Typical engineer, I suppose.

Any - how long does a car last? - skidpan

At present (give or take a few weeks) any car on a 12 plate or newer is just 7 years old or less, anything on a 61 plate is 7 years old or more.

When I walked up town yesterday I made a mental note of cars on the road and in the car park at Asda and without doubt about 75% were older than 7 years.

I suppose it would be a good thing if all those cars were taken off the roads, more space for the ones like me with newer cars.

One thought. As we know the Motoring press and journalists rely on sponsorship in one form or another from the motoring industry e.g. free loan of cars, free holidays in exoctic locations to drive a new car etc. The Motoring industry needs to sell new cars, its the only reason they exist. The journalists are hardly going to publish the line "cars last much longer today that they did in years gone by, no need to sell at 7 years old" since it would not go down to well with their paymasters.

As in every field of journalism they never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Any - how long does a car last? - andrew bairsto

It is quite normal to see 20 year old cars in Germany they tend to be in very good condition as the Germans tend to look after their cars much better than they do in the UK.

Any - how long does a car last? - Leif

It is quite normal to see 20 year old cars in Germany they tend to be in very good condition as the Germans tend to look after their cars much better than they do in the UK.

I looked after my cars but they still fell to pieces at ~10 years of age. Rust is rust, unless you have your car specially treated with an aftermarket undersealant. I wonder if many Germans do that? And are their cars of highly quality than the same models and makes in other countries?

Cars in some countries last longer as they don't have snow in winter hence no salt on the roads, and our climate is humid which cannot help. I would have thought Germany was not so different from here. NB: By 'here' I mean 'the Yook'. Hope that's cleared that one up ...

Any - how long does a car last? - Engineer Andy

It is quite normal to see 20 year old cars in Germany they tend to be in very good condition as the Germans tend to look after their cars much better than they do in the UK.

I looked after my cars but they still fell to pieces at ~10 years of age. Rust is rust, unless you have your car specially treated with an aftermarket undersealant. I wonder if many Germans do that? And are their cars of highly quality than the same models and makes in other countries?

Cars in some countries last longer as they don't have snow in winter hence no salt on the roads, and our climate is humid which cannot help. I would have thought Germany was not so different from here. NB: By 'here' I mean 'the Yook'. Hope that's cleared that one up ...

If, whenever I buy my next car, it's a brand new one, I may well conside having it treated with an underseallant, though as each new generation come along, they get better on that score, so it may not be needed aside from some of the suspension parts.

I'm not one for changing my car every 3 years, so if can find a really great car that I'd want to keep a REALLY long time (maybe 20 years if possible), then I'd take all reasonable steps in that regard to assist it lasting the distance.

This year my MOT and service said (one each, not on both [appearing to be a matter of opinion]) one my car's anti-roll bars is on the way out and both front coil springs are corroding (advisories). I wonder if it's possible to get stainless steel ones, like exhaust pipes? Not sure, give they are obviously load-bearing. I'd certainly pay good money for a car to be really well rust proofed across the board.

Any - how long does a car last? - movilogo

>> Germans tend to look after their cars much better

What is the rationale behind this? I thought Brits keep cars in good nick in general.

Edited by movilogo on 09/01/2019 at 12:57

Any - how long does a car last? - Andrew-T

I suppose it would be a good thing if all those cars were taken off the roads, more space for the ones like me with newer cars.

As drivers have to put 'those cars' on the roads, Skidpan, if the cars were taken off they would be replaced with newer ones, which would reduce the space available to you as newer ones are probably bigger.

Any - how long does a car last? - pyruse

The older of our two cars is a Honda Logo. Just coming up to 19 years old and 75,000 miles.

Probably will be getting rid of it this spring as the sills have started to rust and usually once that starts it doesn't stop, but it has been an extremely reliable little runabout for the last 10 years.

Any - how long does a car last? - skidpan

I looked after my cars but they still fell to pieces at ~10 years of age. Rust is rust, unless you have your car specially treated with an aftermarket undersealant.

Last car we had that had surface rust was a 1989 Bluebird after 7 years but that was probably down to poor repairs after a crash (bought very cheap as ex lease by the Mrs from her employer thus she knew the car and its slightly dodgy history).

Last car that I had that showed signs of bubbling paint was a 1999 Puma after 6 years. The car is still showed as MOT's and taxed, its 19 years old now thus was not that serious.

All our other cars have been fine up to the time we sold them (the oldest was a 8 year old Micra which had no rust) and the ones that stayed local looked fine for many years including a Mondeo for 14 years and especially a Golf which was still decent at almost 27 years.

None have had any treatment and none have been washed under the arches (the tyres and rain puts far more water under there than I can). Plenty of salt in the north Midlands/South Yorkshire.

You must have been very unlucky or live on a salt pan.

Any - how long does a car last? - Bilboman

A well-maintained car can indeed outlive its owner. Sad to hear of the passing of this automotive legend: www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/irv-gordon-milli.../