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MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - oldroverboy.

So Far, so good.

Belgium Trip.

Fuel economy on the 440 mile drive fully loaded inc full size 17" alloy and tyre 36.8 mpg driving A12-M25-A2- Dover. A16 Calais-Bruges, fair bit of local driving. Return trip identical with the added "pleasure" of meeting the blocked Autoroute exit at Calais (lots of slow speed crawling for 15 miles or so in all and u turning with lots of country road back to Dunkirk. Flowing traffic back Dover Colchester..

Fuel Brim to brim, so not unhappy with that.

Swmbo happy with seats, adjusted mine seat back inclined a bit more. Large door pockets, using phone via touchscreen easy when driving, (swmbo called for me) Lost bit of boot space due to full size spare, but still plenty.

In short, not a lot to say, but satisfied....

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - John F

Fuel economy on the 440 mile drive fully loaded inc full size 17" alloy and tyre 36.8 mpg driving A12-M25-A2- Dover. A16 Calais-Bruges, fair bit of local driving.

Assuming driving styles are roughly the same it must be an inefficient old fashioned engine. Our Focus 1.6 Zetec (designed in the 1990s) automatic estate did 37.6 mpg over mixed 936 miles when sixteen years old with over 120,000m on the clock. Perhaps your fuel economy will improve when it loosens up a bit - if it lasts that long.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - oldroverboy.

Perhaps your fuel economy will improve when it loosens up a bit - if it lasts that long.

???

I didn't drive it particularly gently, and used throttle and gears to accelerate as and when.

I don't think the stop start/crawling helped a lot.

Kindly tell me/us why you don't think it will last long?

Isn't that what was said about japanese motorcycles and cars in the 60's and 70's onwards, and then korean. I have no axe to grind for chinese or other cars, It is a-b transport for me.

what was important was high seating. n/a 4 cyl engine. There appear to be no engine issues since the MG3 came out apart from grumbles that it doesn't act like a high powered engine,

(it isn't)

Like the Kia venga before, if you "floor it" it will move, actually sounds quite throaty...

And finally, getting at a good price, that I am happy with is ok. Dealer service so far in getting bits and advice has been exemplary.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - John F

Kindly tell me/us why you don't think it will last long?

I didn't say that. However, the average age of scrappage is less than 14yrs and the average mileage at scrappage is apparently 125,000. So 'if it is to last as löng' as our Focus I suggest you adopt my very careful and economical ideas of maintenance ;-)

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - skidpan

Kindly tell me/us why you don't think it will last long?

I didn't say that. However, the average age of scrappage is less than 14yrs and the average mileage at scrappage is apparently 125,000. So 'if it is to last as löng' as our Focus I suggest you adopt my very careful and economical ideas of maintenance ;-)

If the OP adopts your service schedule he will loose what is currently one of the main selling points of the MG range which is the 7 year warranty. In time used MG's less under 7 years old without any warranty left may well have the residuals of a used crisp packet.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - Big John

Fuel economy sounds reasonable considering the SUV styling and this may improve with a few miles on the clock.

Whenever I've had a new car, performance and economy always seems to improve during the first few 1000 miles (usually about 3.5k) however my running in technique is never too gentle making sure I vary driving styles. I've honed this technique with various company cars earlier in my career. When it's your own car/money sometimes it's tempting to treat too gently when new.

Edited by Big John on 09/12/2018 at 10:11

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - skidpan

Fuel economy on the 440 mile drive fully loaded inc full size 17" alloy and tyre 36.8 mpg driving A12-M25-A2- Dover. A16 Calais-Bruges, fair bit of local driving

I would consider that a very disappointing figure for "modern" car from 2018. In similar circumstances our similarly spacious (but not as tall) 1989 1.8 Bluebird would manage about 35 mpg and that was from the stone age mechanically, it even had a carburetor.

Compared to our Nissan Note which externally was smaller but looking at internal dims is equally spacious as the ZS it does make you wonder why they don't use a more modern engine. Our Note had about the same power and torque (1.2 supercharged with the biggest 16" alloys and a full size spare) but on a decent run with some town use would easilly manage the high 50's driving at National speed limits.

They still have a way to go.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - SteveLee
1989 1.8 Bluebird would manage about 35 mpg and that was from the stone age mechanically, it even had a carburetor.

You're joking, I had a brand new 89 Bluebird as a company car - I rarely managed more than 25 mpg - okay I did drive it like a company car, I'm sure 35mpg would be possible in certain circumstances - but certainly not in "normal" use. My 94 2.0L Primera on the other hand - that was much better.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - skidpan
1989 1.8 Bluebird would manage about 35 mpg and that was from the stone age mechanically, it even had a carburetor.

You're joking, I had a brand new 89 Bluebird as a company car - I rarely managed more than 25 mpg - okay I did drive it like a company car, I'm sure 35mpg would be possible in certain circumstances - but certainly not in "normal" use. My 94 2.0L Primera on the other hand - that was much better.

35 mpg was what we manged on a holiday trip with local running when we got there, the sort of driving the OP has been doing on the 440 mile trip he discussed.

25 mpg was pretty typical when commuting, shopping etc.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - Andrew-T

<< I would consider that a very disappointing figure for "modern" car from 2018. >>

So would I. These days makers do all they can to be able to advertise minimal CO2 outputs. Unless ORB was using a heavy right foot, I would be disappointed to get less than 40 from any car with an engine of 2 litres or less.

But older cars were not all incapable of low consumption. The Morris 1100 I owned in Canada in the mid-60s averaged 44mpg on a 3500-mile tour around the western States. Of course that was mostly on long open roads, but also included a memorable day going from sea level (Death Valley) up to 10,000 feet into Yosemite Park. Yankee cars then would have needed their carbs adjusted for altitude, but the old SU didn't mind at all ....

Edited by Andrew-T on 11/12/2018 at 09:43

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - Avant

Yes, a VAG 1.4 or 15 TSI might have given MPG in the high 40s / low 50s on the trip that ORB has just done.

But he got a nearly-new MG for £11,000, whereas a nearly-new equivalent VAG SUV, a Skoda Karoq, would have set him back about £10,000 more to buy.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - SteveLee

Yes, a VAG 1.4 or 15 TSI might have given MPG in the high 40s / low 50s on the trip that ORB has just done.

But he got a nearly-new MG for £11,000, whereas a nearly-new equivalent VAG SUV, a Skoda Karoq, would have set him back about £10,000 more to buy.

Yep, cracking value, shame the misseses SX4 is so darn reliable (as in nothing ever goes wrong - it just gets an oil and filter service once per year) - or I'd find an excuse to buy a ZS to replace it! She doesn't care about cars, so had absolutely no interest in me buying her a new one, indeed protesting "what's wrong with mine"? which of course - I retorted - "nothing".

I know they're Chinese cars with an MG badge but I still have a soft spot because of the said badge - weird eh?

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - veloceman
Interestingly there are plenty of old Thames Television road test on you tube from cars of the seventies.
Small family cars engine size around 1.3litre with 70 hp are quoted with economy of 28-33 mpg.
Also they were lighter and have no tech compared to today.
Progress has clearly been made.
MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - SteveLee
Interestingly there are plenty of old Thames Television road test on you tube from cars of the seventies. Small family cars engine size around 1.3litre with 70 hp are quoted with economy of 28-33 mpg. Also they were lighter and have no tech compared to today. Progress has clearly been made.

If we were not lumbered with catalytic converters which force us to run relatively rich fuel mixtures to keep the exhaust gas temperatures in check, we'd be running compression ignition petrol engines doing 80mpg by now. Sometimes technology works against you.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - oldroverboy.

Again, to add that MPG was fully loaded, full size alloy and tyre are heavy, full of baggage both ways plus some wine coming back from Belgium, and drove to the 130KPH limit in france, touching an indicated 140kph in belgium to 120 KPH, so considering that it is a big lump with a large frontal area, not too bad..

Edited by oldroverboy. on 11/12/2018 at 06:39

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - skidpan
Interestingly there are plenty of old Thames Television road test on you tube from cars of the seventies. Small family cars engine size around 1.3litre with 70 hp are quoted with economy of 28-33 mpg. Also they were lighter and have no tech compared to today. Progress has clearly been made.

If we were not lumbered with catalytic converters which force us to run relatively rich fuel mixtures to keep the exhaust gas temperatures in check, we'd be running compression ignition petrol engines doing 80mpg by now. Sometimes technology works against you.

But the fact we are all using cars with almost double the power and 50% more weight we had 30 or 40 years ago yet we are doing double the mpg and polluting far less is a real result IMHO.

Put a modern hi-tec engine in an old car and you should theoretically see excellent mpg figures but only real anoraks would buy such a car. We all want the luxuries and they all add weight and only a total idiot would wish to cause the pollution cars caused 40 years ago (especially when there are far more cars on the road).

My Caterham runs on a AFR of about 14.5 in normal driving, the same engine in a Mk 1 Focus would be running leaner but it has the advantage of much more sophisticated sensors to control the engine than the Caterham which has a more basic system. 30 years ago my Caterham was running an engine fitted with twin Webers and no control whatsoever. Back then the car using a 1700 x-flow it would average about 25 mpg with 130 bhp. Now its got a 2 litre Zetec and averages 36 mpg. As well as being good for my wallet its good for the environment, and all done in my shed.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - oldroverboy.
My Caterham runs on a AFR of about 14.5 in normal driving, the same engine in a Mk 1 Focus would be running leaner but it has the advantage of much more sophisticated sensors to control the engine than the Caterham which has a more basic system. 30 years ago my Caterham was running an engine fitted with twin Webers and no control whatsoever. Back then the car using a 1700 x-flow it would average about 25 mpg with 130 bhp. Now its got a 2 litre Zetec and averages 36 mpg. As well as being good for my wallet its good for the environment, and all done in my shed.

Faintly jealous.. I can't fit in a caterham unless i drive shoeless, (size 12's)

Enjoy it! (I'm sure you do!)

Used to enjoy go carting when younger.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I can't see MG in the Honest John car reviews. Well done for creating your own.

MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - catsdad
GWS there is a review and a road test.

For the review you do need to scroll through to the less popular makes . No offence ORB ;-).

I hope they do well and think they look better styled than Dacia ans Ssansong alternatives but I've never seen one in the metal so will reserve judgement.
MG ZS 1.5 manual 2018 - The First 1100 miles. - Stackman II

With regard to progress of car design over the years, I remember seeing a comparison between the original Range Rover and a modern one.

Roughly speaking the new car was about a tonne heavier but had more than double the power, half the time to 60, was 30 mph faster and used half as much fuel.