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Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - galwayman

Hi.

If you were to buy a 2013 Mazda CX-5 would you choose the petrol or diesel model?

Is the diesel reliable?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - madf

Avoid the diesel unless you like big bills.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - galwayman

Is it that bad?

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - FP

Mazda may have solved their long-standing problems with diesels - or they may not.

I faced this issue when I was researching buying a CX-5 last year. My feeling was that it would be a leap in the dark to buy a diesel, and I wasn't prepared to do it. For a 2013 car - five years old - it's an extra risk.

Mazda's reputation with petrol engines, by contrast, is excellent. The only issue is that the petrol CX-5 - a fairly big, though not massively heavy, car - is no ball of fire. To take advantage of its 165 bhp you have to thrash it a bit and that isn't a particularly relaxing way to drive, nor an economical one.

However, it suits me very well. It is a lovely machine if allowed to make its own way - a really nice drive. Plenty of room everywhere and, on the SportNav model, plenty of useful toys.

To answer your question with another - how lucky do you feel?

Edited by FP on 18/10/2018 at 16:40

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - galwayman

Thanks for the replies. It seems it would be a risky purchase then.

I was just wondering because the diesels from 2013 onwards seem to start around 2-3k cheaper than the petrols.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - FP

"...the diesels from 2013 onwards seem to start around 2-3k cheaper than the petrols."

Two reasons for that: it seems there are more CX-5 diesels than petrols - in the UK, anyway; and Mazda's poor reputation with diesels.

If you want a maximum chance of reliability and a minimum of risk, petrol is the way to go.

Edited by FP on 18/10/2018 at 16:52

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - TheGentlemanThug

Petrol all the way, especially with Japanese marques. Their reputation for reliability is unmatched.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - skidpan

The only issue is that the petrol CX-5 - a fairly big, though not massively heavy, car - is no ball of fire. To take advantage of its 165 bhp you have to thrash it a bit and that isn't a particularly relaxing way to drive, nor an economical one.

That is exactly what I found when I drove the 6 Estate but on a short test drive I of course could not conform the mpg. In a CX5 I would expect no difference but we discounted that since it was in truth too high up for us, SUV's don't suit all buyers despite what the manufacturers might believe.

I really wanted to like the Mazda's, the prices was good, the broker deals made it a winner and the specs were wihout doubt the best in the class. But the engine spoilt the car for us.

That and the space saver spare, at over £400 they were having a laugh especially when it robbed boot space.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - Engineer Andy
If you're doing less than 20k miles pa, then the petrol should be fine, unless you need an auto and/or a 4x4, which is only available in a diesel version.

If you are doing more than 20k miles or need an auto and/or a 4x4, buy a car from another make that is more reliable in diesel form or has a petrol auto version (and isn't a VAG DSG or Ford Powershift dual clutch box). The Mazda autos are actually very good, but unfortunately in this case there's no petrol auto version.

They are very good handling cars (as always). The price difference is likely because of the reliability woes, which could set you back a LOT when compared to the car's value as it ages.

As alternatives (if you need a diesel or auto), I'd look to Hyundai/KIA, Honda or Toyota for decent relaibility, even if they don't match the Mazda for handling. Have a look round the Reviews section of this website for similar (used) aged models from these and other makes.
Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - galwayman

Petrol would probably suit the profile of the driver more really.

It is for my wife (I have a 2013 s-line A6 diesel that I love).

Her role at work has just recently changed which means that she is based at home 2-3 days a week. The other days she has an approx 40 mile round trip drive to her office.

She has a trip then once every 2-4 weeks (gaps between trips are variable) to head office (approx 300 miles round trip mostly on motorway). Aside from that she'd be doing some spins locally and that's about it. Not huge mileage.

I'm just trying to get the best bang for buck for her that I can. If there was a petrol CX-5 for £9k or under I would go with that.

I'm based in Ireland so I would need to pay VRT import charge on top of the purchase price. The choice of cars here is much less than in the Uk and like-for-like prices re a lot higher. I saved about €6k getting my A6 in the Uk.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - FP

So can you not get the Mazda from the UK also? Sorry - I don't know how it works.

It does sound as if the petrol version would suit - as I said above, it's a lovely car to drive provided you're not fixated on making rapid progress. Driven gently, it's pretty economical too.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - galwayman

I can yeah I was looking at the diesel because the petrols are veering into over-budget territory was all.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - sx200n

galwayman

To help give a measured reply - as simply, for every rubbish car there is also a good one.

We traded both our cars in for a White CX-5 (2015, 4WD, 2.2ltr 165bhp Diesel) about 9 months ago.

This is the wifes car, whilst I am still hunting for my next car.

But we have had this for almost a year and we probably only just qualify for even getting a diesel due to the DPF issues. We do 10,000 miles a year into Cambridge (only live 15 miles away), a short amount of dual carriageway, and then stop start traffic.

So far it hasn't missed a beat and it is indeed great fun to drive. We test drove the 4Wd diesel and the 2wd diesel within 5 minutes of each other, and you really could notice the extra traction from the 4wd system. At least we could anyway.

Admittidly I was not aware of any diesel engine issues with the CX-5. I know in past years they have not been great, but the skyactive method of building the cars now is totally new, and the CX-5 was the first to be produced using it.

So far not a single issue - and that included the Mazda dealership filling the car up with petrol instread of diesel just as we went to pick it up!!! Thankfully he never started the engine.

But of course, 9 months constant use is still early days really. So we will just see how we go.

But so far we absolutely love it. You can't even tell your driving a big car. It feels like an MX-5.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - xtrailman

I'm on my second CX-5 Sport since 2013.

Avoid any cx-5 diesel from 2013, after that you should be ok, but take out a warranty.

Petrol is the reliable option, but not the best option for a cx-5. IMO the optimum year is the 2015 diesel I have, which will be for sale early next year, its been fault free for 3 years and makes a great tow car.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - galwayman

Thanks for the reply - did they fix something in the post 2014 model engines then?

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - Engineer Andy

They 'may' have made some changes on the QT, as there's never been any publicity about whether their previously inherrant faults were fixed, but as has been said, most if not all of these problems were either due to or largely exacerbated by driving the diesel engined vehicles mostly short journeys from cold.

I do need to ask - is there any reason why you want a CX-5 over, say, a Mazda6 or any other car. The 6 saloon has a slightly smaller boot; the tourer about the same space as the CX-5. Note also that the 6 is a bit quicker and about 5% more fuel efficient due to its more aerodynamic shape. They also often come with better discounts/lower second hand prices than SUVs like the CX-5, so you might be able to afford a petrol version and even a newer car. I can understand it if you want it because of the higher driving position, useful in more rural areas.

Edited by Engineer Andy on 19/10/2018 at 18:12

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - xtrailman

The engine received mods in 2017, and 2018, different pistons and rings and more lowdown torque, 2018 car gets adblue and 184ps with 445nm of torque, up from 175ps and 420nm.

That supposed to have cured the oil rise issues, it was the 2013 that got a faulty batch of cams that worn out prematurely.

There is a 2.5 NA petrol now available in the mazda6.

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - galwayman

Thanks for the replies so far guys.

Just on a separate note - would there typically be much of a discount to be had on used cars (say a 10k car) fir a cash sale and not taking any warranty with it?

Cheers

Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - SLO76

Thanks for the replies so far guys.

Just on a separate note - would there typically be much of a discount to be had on used cars (say a 10k car) fir a cash sale and not taking any warranty with it?

Cheers

Don’t base your decision on discount. It’s easy to take money off when a car is heavily overpriced but you’re no better off than had you bought one that was correctly priced to start with and you won’t get more than a few hundred quid off if anything on a properly priced car. As for negotiation, mentioning cash will more likely to reduce your chances of a discount as the dealer makes money from any finance deal so it’s best to let them quote you a fat finance deal than ask for say £500 off to see where you go. Get them to write the discounted price down for you then you say yes I’ll take it but I’ll arrange my own finances. They legally can’t charge you more for doing this and thus can’t change the price. You may have a fight on your hands if they’ve given you a decent discount but again cash isn’t something dealers are interested in, they want a fat finance commission. No retailer will sell you a car without warranty as they’re effectively legally obliged to cover it for 6mths anyway. They know this and won’t trade you a car without cover unless you are an official dealer yourself. Focus on buying the best car at the correct price instead of a ropey one at a cheap price.
Mazda CX-5 - 2013 Mazda CX-5 Petrol Or Diesel? - skidpan

Just on a separate note - would there typically be much of a discount to be had on used cars (say a 10k car) fir a cash sale and not taking any warranty with it?

Surely with a car like a diesel Mazda with a huge reputation for terminal engine problems you want as long a warranty as possible and not zero warranty.