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KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

Hello all - 1st time poster here.

I'm looking for a replacement for my petrol Golf Plus. Production was stopped around about 2011 so I'm unable to get a newer version and the SVs are out of my pocket unfortunately.

I like the Golf (although I know many of you regard VWs as devils excrement) but if I can't have a VW and Fords go boom then what choices do I have. I like a raised driving position in my vehicle and much prefer comfort and quality over speed and it must be petrol. So does the panel rate the Kia Soul. or can anyone offer an alternative. I really liked the Cmax I drove recently but it does have the turbo engine that doesn't seem very reliable.

Thanks

Edited by Penumbra on 12/10/2018 at 01:11

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - oldroverboy.

I have a Kia Venga 1.4 petrol..£10.000 will get you a nice one with a long warranty.

I get 35ish localy and 40 ish on a run.

if you need auto, the petrol autos are thirstier.

a petrol one for sale. warranty till 2023. ( make sure you buy full main dealer with annual services to get that warranty. a Tardis inside. my reviews are in the forum, search kia venga, oldroverboy...

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20181005120...1

Edited by oldroverboy. on 12/10/2018 at 03:13

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

I have a Kia Venga 1.4 petrol..£10.000 will get you a nice one with a long warranty.

I get 35ish localy and 40 ish on a run.

What's the ride like in the Venga Oldroverboy?

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - SLO76
You could get the C-max with the excellent Yamaha designed 1.6 petrol motor right up to 2016 and £10k is plenty to get a good approved used example from a Ford dealer. There’s no vices with this engine and as long as you avoid the Powershift auto it should be a spacious and reliable servant. Don’t let the salesman talk you into the 1.0 Ecoboost.

Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180909030...4

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - badbusdriver

The Kia Soul is a a great option if you want something which looks a little different, but you need to be aware of a couple of things which may put you off coming from a Golf Plus. Practicality OK, but it is a bit behind the space and versatality as the Golf Plus. The boot is smaller (quite shallow), the rear seats don't slide and they fold in the conventional 60/40 manner. Also, and this is going purely by what i have read, the ride is quite firm, especially so on the bigger alloy wheels you get on the jazzier special edition models. By all means, try one out first, you may not find it an issue, but i'd suggest avoiding examples with the bigger wheels. With regards to reliablity, absolutely nothing to worry about there, n/a 1.6 petrol mated to a manual gearbox, doesn't get much more straightforward.

Your £10k budget will get you into one as young as 2 years old with potentially 5 years remaining of its warranty.

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Oli rag
Toyota verso would be a great choice. You can get it with a 1.6 or preferably a 1.8 petrol engine. Reliability is a given and owners love them.
KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - skidpan

We had a Nissan Note with the 1.2 DIG-S engine. Its way bigger than a Golf inside and in the boot plus it will do almost 50 mpg overall and 60 on a run, pretty good for a petrol. Decent performance with the supercharged engine as well. High seating position as well. Get the Permium Plus trim for all the goodies you need (inc decent Sat-Nav). The higher specs are pointless.

Your budget should get you into one of the last sold early in 2017.

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

Many thanks to you all.

It's very much a sellers market locally - only 2 franchised garages. The Ford place is a bit expensive eg. only one CMAX on the forecourt a 2016 CMAX Titanium (admittedly very low mileage) at £14495.

I'm considering this one www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180801903...2? which is more than I wanted to pay to be honest.

It appears the Soul may be out due to other family members opinions about it's looks ! Thanks for the Verso tip Oil Rag - I'd forgotten about that model.

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - SLO76
The C-Max with the 1.6 Ecoboost motor is generally good too. Substantially quicker but a bit juicier and this one is certainly low in the miles and is likely to have a full Ford history. No reason why you shouldn’t buy it but if you want it to last I’d service it with the main dealer who will know these engines inside out.
KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - TheGentlemanThug

Just out of interest, why do you want to change? If the Golf does what you need and there aren't many options open to you, then perhaps it's best to keep the Golf?

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

Just out of interest, why do you want to change? If the Golf does what you need and there aren't many options open to you, then perhaps it's best to keep the Golf?

I've had it 3 years and it's at 40000 miles so it's a toss up to splash out on a new car or stick with the Golf. The timing chain should be done and the clutch slips every now and again. That's going to cost £750 or thereabouts so I felt the money might be better spent elsewhere whilst the car had some trade-in value. Slo will probably confirm that dealers won't offer huge money in part-ex.

It's a nice car (better than the standard Golf in my opinion). My mate offered me a straight swap for his Range Rover but even I'm not daft enough to fall for that!

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - skidpan

it's at 40000 miles so it's a toss up to splash out on a new car or stick with the Golf. The timing chain should be done and the clutch slips every now and again. That's going to cost £750 or thereabouts

If you really want a different or a newer car or even one that is more suitable for your needs go ahead and swap.

But

If its simply because your need to spend about £750 think again. Any car you buy will loose more than that as soon as you drive away and continue to loose money, the Golf has lost most of its value. Any newer car you buy is not 100% garanteed to be reliable and at 2 years old it could need tyres soon, If the car you buy has been poorly treated it could also need a clutch before you know it and its unlikely to be covered by any warranty.

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - badbusdriver

I am a fan of the Golf Plus and the Golf SV replacement as i value practicality over image, so i can well understand why you like it. I agree with what skidpan is saying though, your car is not worth that much now, so it is not going to depreciate much further. The things you mention needing done are just down to wear and tear, not faults as such. If there are no other issues, i'd be inclined to just keep it.

But going back to the start of your thread, you indicated you fancied a Golf SV but they were out of your price range. I've had a look on Autotrader and there are a few petrol ones available under £10k, not much granted, but one stood out because of the price and the fact that it may not be too far away. You didn't say where you were, but i used the postcode of the garage selling the C-Max you linked, looking for SV's sorted by distance. This one is 62 miles away.

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180718855...1

I know you don't want to spend more than £10k, but also noticed this one at just over £11k, it is only 22 miles away from the C-Max garage,

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180906023...1

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

Ha it sounds as though you and Skidpan have been talking to SWMBO

Many thanks for the link badbusdriver - I may actually give the 2nd one a ring tomorrow even though my budget seems to be rising

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - TheGentlemanThug

I'll throw my two pence back in and say that I agree with skidpan. If the clutch and belts are the only things wrong with the Golf then I'd go ahead and get them done. If other things are going wrong then it's probably time to say adios.

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - SLO76
“I've had it 3 years and it's at 40000 miles so it's a toss up to splash out on a new car or stick with the Golf. The timing chain should be done and the clutch slips every now and again. That's going to cost £750 or thereabouts so I felt the money might be better spent elsewhere whilst the car had some trade-in value. Slo will probably confirm that dealers won't offer huge money in part-ex.”

Unlike a timing belt the timing chain isn’t something that should be changed unless it has developed a rattle which shows signs of wear. The whole idea of a chain is to do away with the costly periodic belt change.

However for some reason many European manufacturers can’t seem to get the or design quality right and these chains frequently develop problems, particularly early TSi petrol engines as used in many Golfs of this era. You still don’t change it unless there’s a problem though and if it’s been maintained properly there shouldn’t be at 40k.

I’d verify the clutch is actually slipping. It’s very premature at 40k and these aren’t known for eating them. Put it in a high gear at a low speed then floor the throttle, if the revs rise quickly but the speed doesn’t rise correspondingly then it is slipping.

As for part exchange values well that depends on condition and history. This model wasn’t liked by the public or trade because of its slightly awkward looks and the problems with the TSi engines only made this worse so yes values are lower than a normal Golf however it is sellable and dealers will be happy to take it in. Go looking and get a few offers (if the clutch is slipping you may get lucky and they might not drive it) also put the details into we buy and car to see where you stand, often a better deal can be found with no part exchange.

Edited by SLO76 on 13/10/2018 at 09:32

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

All good advice much appreciated.

After viewing a couple of vehicles over the weekend and being offered disappointing trade in prices, I've now decided to keep the Golf until next year and pass it on free to a family member.

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Alanovich

Some alternatives:

SEAT Altea (and Altea XL)

FIAT 500L

Skoda Roomster

EDIT: and now I've read your last post and see you aren't changing.

Edited by Alanovich on 16/10/2018 at 12:21

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

Some alternatives:

SEAT Altea (and Altea XL)

FIAT 500L

Skoda Roomster

EDIT: and now I've read your last post and see you aren't changing.

Never mind. Thanks for taking the trouble to reply .... although Fiat 500 ....

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Alanovich

Did you notice the L after the 500? Very different beast from the wee 500. They're quite good little cars, my Mum's been popping about in one for 3 years or so now. Reliable and cheap to run. When she parks it next to my Mercedes E class estate it doesn't look so small though...

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - Penumbra

My apologies, I missed the L.

I see they even come with 7 seats - certainly grown through the years.

KIA Soul - Replacing a 2009 Golf Plus - £10,000 to spend. - TheGentlemanThug

Good idea. Going in as a cash buyer with no part exchange will make the dealer more accommodating as well.