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all - customer care service, any good ones? - barney100

I've been fobbed off by Mercedes despite my best obdurate efforts and wonder if any back roomers have had positive experiences with any customer care from other manufacturers.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - focussed

Yes a couple of instances, both with Honda.

A 7th generation 1.7 diesel Civic which I bought used from a Honda dealer out of warranty and took it to another Honda dealer near me for a service and asked them to look at a faulty driver's window which wouldn't close properly, they immediately said that there was a recall on the window regulator and they would fit a new replacement FOC.

And my UK bought new 8th generation 2.2 CDT type S Civic which developed a slipping clutch just before the end of the 3 year warranty, after I had moved to France. New DMF and complete clutch fitted by my local French Honda dealer at no cost apart from some gearbox oil.

Edited by focussed on 03/10/2018 at 10:03

all - customer care service, any good ones? - sandy56

A quick summary of my experience with main dealers- I keep my cars for a few years so do get a flavour of the dealer performance, and the cars are mine.

Audi- very expensive and competent,

BMW, expensive and competent, I dont like their service regime so used mine more regular services

Toyota- acceptable pricing and competent, and no repairs needed, ever,

Honda, expensive and competent but almost impossible to contact the Service desk!!! Current car is a Honda.

Suzuki- was only ever serviced by me, and one repair in 4 years of neglect

Ford- reasonable pricing, competent and on occasion very helpful

all - customer care service, any good ones? - Falkirk Bairn

I have had good service from 3 out of 4 Honda dealers - one was a chain who have packed their bags & left. 2 have been closed by Honda - family owned single franchise / smallish outlets - Honda now seem to only want to deal with garage chains!

I am on my 4th Honda.

Lexus get a good write up.

Eldest son has had great service from the same dealer since 2004.

2 cars bought (both 2nd hand 10K on clock), & nothing really apart from servicing, brakes etc he has had next to no repairs either in/out of warranty. Only costly repair on No1 car was a water pump & they did the timing belt etc at the same time (60K miles IIRC).

No 2 car has been fault free other than an airbag recall & a wiring recall - both free & a free hire car - airbag recall they almost filled the tank for the inconvenience!

Pricey servicing & parts (if needed) but if you have a MB you will know all about that. I was burned by MB parts & labour pricing in the mid 90s with my 1 & only MB purchase.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - badbusdriver

Surveys of good and bad customer service for manufacturers are extremely simplified. Makes like Fiat and Alfa Romeo, who's dealers would typically come near the bottom of any lists, is a good example. Up to about a year ago there was a Fiat dealer a few miles from me and the place had a great reputation, but it was a small family run concern. Ditto for Alfa, i'm sure there are dealers out there who make a great effort to take good care of their customers, even if the cars themselves might not be reliable. I'm also sure that somewhere out there you will find a Merc dealer who looks after their customers!.

Lexus, as mentioned, usually do very well. Also, from what i have read, Infiniti dealers go above and beyond the call of duty, probably to help the brand become accepted as a realistic alternative to the German trio.

These days i listen to a local commercial radio station, gritting my teeth through the, sometimes excrutiating adverts, for the generally excellent music they play. But the point is that a local Suzuki dealership, according to their advert, has been voted number 1 for customer service in the UK.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - SLO76
Toyota tend to make more of an effort here with calls to customers post sale to check they are happy with the service before bonuses are released but much still depends on the individual dealer. They take an interest where most firms just take the money and run.

Best personal service I’ve had came from my local VW dealer who’ve went beyond the call of duty several times and always return my car or van spotless inside and out with everything done as requested at a reasonable price. The fact that there’s several VAG specialists local to them is likely a factor. I’ve plenty of choice when it comes to maintaining any VAG motor.

Edited by SLO76 on 03/10/2018 at 11:07

all - customer care service, any good ones? - Andrew-T

I think it is a mistake to make generalisations about major dealerships. Many will be poor, while others try to maintain good customer relations. The only way to find out is to try one or ask friends/acquaintances who have. Most 'garages' have reputations, and all have managers who try, or don't.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - Engineer Andy

My experiences are relatively limited and mixed:

When I owned a mid 90s Nissan Micra, my customer services experience with them was, for the most part fine. Like with my current (12yo) Mazda3, occasionally I've had cause to complain about the quality of some servicing, but rarely.

When I had an accident in the Micra, I had to use another main dealer as mine wasn't on my insurer's 'approved repairer' list, but they were excellent - no problems booking in the car or arranging the courtesy car, and it was returned in pristine condition as promised and on time. I even used them to have it checked when a stone chip broke the aux belt (replaced by the RAC and only cost £8 for the belt) and I needed the coolant checked as some had boiled off after the original incident.

My normal dealership wanted £30 just to check it; the other dealer said they'd do it for free, and they were a similar distance away from home (just in the wrong direction to drop it off when on the way to work), so I popped in on a Saturday morning - no trouble, everything checked out and on my way in 15 mins.

I also felt that Nissan were sympathetic to a problem I had with the car's temp sensor (its on the Good and Bad section if its still up [it may not be any more as it is an old car]) even though it was out of warranty, and it was fixed FOC.

Mazda have been ok, but for the most part, my car has been very reliable, and so most of my dealings with them have been general servicing and the old 'wear and tear' replacement, like batteries, a clutch, suspension components. They've offered an extended use of a courtesy car (including free fuel) when they couldn't complete my clutch change (I think they got backed in in the garage and didn't want to start the job and leave it incomplete overnight).

My recent wheel and tyre change wasn't so good as they (probably) ordered the wrong size wheels and IMHO tried to foist the OEM design ones (without centre caps) on me without telling me. Luckily I noticed and, politely got them to get the caps and drop the price by £65 (including the £40 for fitting the new tyres).

At least they didn't try and fight me on this - probably because they knew I'd found them out and that I was a long-standing customer who could easily take my business elsewhere. I have had one dealing with Mazda UK, which was about why the rear numberplate light cluster didn't seem to be finished, which I thought they fobbed me off, and I've heard many accounts of poor customer service from main dealers and Mazda UK via the owners forums, so I think I've been relatively lucky.

My best experience was, like many, with Honda, when I was looking for my current car (the Honda Civic, Jazz & Ford Focus wre on my list as well as the Mazda3) in 2005/6. I turned up on spec, had a look around at the Civic and Jazz, and asked for both a test drive in both the models I was looking at and to bring my holiday luggage etc to check if they's fit in the boot (without having to put the back seat down as I had to in the Micra). All fine, test drives done there and then (and long ones) and I could check the luggage capacity with my stuff, even on the showroom cars (as long as I was careful - they weren't looking over my shoulder).

They weren't pushy, they answered all my questions and made sure (on the Civic) that I was getting the right car for my needs (i.e. not a diesel as my mileage didn't warrant one), even pushing the cheaper 1.2 Jazz SE as it seemed to be a better fit for me (which I agreed) than the more expensive Civic 3dr 1.6 Sport (which was nicer looking and a better driver's car). I found the Jazz more comfortable and user friendly - just a shame it wasn't really much quicker or better handling than my Micra.

They asked if they could call me in a few days to follow up, and they did, just the once. If it weren't for Motorpoint offering a Mazda3 (new) in the exact spec I wanted for £3.5k less than the list price and less than all the others I was looking at, I'd have bought the Jazz. It wasn't cheap (not much in the way of discounts on Hondas [when have that ever happened?]), including servicing, but I was very impressed with their honesty and integrity - they never tried to hide anything, push finance or me towards a car I didn't want just to earn them more money.

The Mazda dealer (same area as the Honda dealer - St. Albans) I'd originally got a test drive on the 3 (not my current one) was ok, but seemed disiniterested (I hadn't even thought about going down the broker or supersite route at that point - a colleague put me onto them), but not terrible - I got a test drive and they were happy for me to check the boot space as I previously described (one of the reasons why I bought one was because all my holday stuff fitted it, unlike the Hondas).

The Ford dealership experience was poor - sales people who were either completely disinterested or ones trying to push me on to cars/sub-models and optional extras I didn't want/need and especially car finance, which I specifically told them I didn't want as a cash buyer. I was so annoyed by their attitude that I walked out without a test drive (I'd driven one before as a hire car so knew it was fine, although that was a diesel).

They lost a potential sale as a result, not helped by the very variable customer service my Dad received with Ford dealers despite being a customer (mostly company cars) for decades. A shame, as the Focus (hatch or saloon) in 1.6 petrol form would've done me fine as it was very similar underneath to the Mazda that shared the same floorpan and underpinnings.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - oldroverboy.

I have found Kia to be very helpful, (Kia uk) and my local dealers, Underwoods..Colchester.

Sales people nice, not pushy, and an excellent service dept.

Local MG/Citroen dealers middling to be polite...Don't want to sell what you want, but what they want.. thanks and Goodbyeeee..

Dacia dealers here only interested if placing an order...

There are good and bad everywhere..

all - customer care service, any good ones? - madf

RRG (Macclesfield) and Pinkstones (Stoke on Trent) - both Toyota - excellent service. #

Holdcroft (Stoke on Trent) - Honda- Excellent.#

Audi (Stoke on Trent? dealer) excellent service but car 1997 A4 was hopelessly unreliable.. suspension, aircon, battery, etc

Burns (Congleton) Ford- excellent service.#

BMW - various fine.#

earlier BL - cars were pants, dealers little better.

Volvo - excellent.#

# no car faults.

Edited by madf on 03/10/2018 at 13:46

all - customer care service, any good ones? - Meteiro

BMW - Expensive, but every job was superbly done.

Citroen - Cheap as chips, quality staff, never had an issue.

Ford - Utterly useless, lied, and expensive to boot. Robustly contested warranty claims.

Peugeot - General servicing quality hard to tell, but nice dealer servicing team at our local garage (though a bit pricier than expected). That said sales staff useless! Accommodating when we had cracked injector, but took over five visits with various breakdowns to locate and rectify the issue. Had it not been under warranty would've gone elsewhere.

Renault - Very capable, not too expensive.

SsangYong - Very good, very accommodating, but not cheap. All warranty claims immediately accepted with no fuss, regardless of cost or cause.

Toyota - Nothing ever went wrong! General servicing expensive but good.

Vauxhall - Very good, quite cheap, but would definitely not follow their very long 20k mile service schedule!

Edited by Meteiro on 03/10/2018 at 13:57

all - customer care service, any good ones? - Heidfirst

Toyota - on my previous Avensis I complained that they had not been doing the 2 satnav updates per year advertised when I got the car - they gave me 2 extra years of updates foc. That car at 5 years also developed the cracking problem near the hinges on the driver's door - complete new door foc.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - TheGentlemanThug

In terms of purchasing, Volvo have been the best for me. For the test drive, they simply handed me the keys and asked me to come back when I was ready. They were open to negotiation, made everything clear and even suggested that I don't bother buying the paint protection.

In terms of aftersales, I have to tip my hat to Honda as well. They replaced the exhaust manifold on my Accord whilst it was technically out of warranty without a second thought. I suspect a lot of other manufacturers would have used the car's age to wiggle out of it, even though the mileage was within the warranty period.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - skidpan

Experiences as follows

VW. Service always OK but after the family owners sold to a chain sales struggled to be bothered to get out of their comfy chairs. After 3 tries we gave up on them.

BMW. Fine and decent price whilst at the old site. When they moved to a new gin palace they replaced all the advisors with bimbos and after an argument I never went back. Luckilly we had a good BMW indy 2 miles form home.

Ford. Brilliant at the old site, fine at the new one.

Seat. Selling dealer was total rubbish, Seat compensated me for thier incompetance. Next dealer I tried left the sump plug loose with the expected loss of oil. 3rd dealer was absolutely fine.

Nissan. First dealer was OK until he used the wrong oil. Luckilly a new dealer set up local to home and they were fine.

Kia. Always helpful but sometimes lacked knowledge.

Skoda. Fine so far even though they changed the Superb form fixed to variable servicing without asking me (I specified fixed when i bought it). Sorted with a conformation e-mail.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - Engineer Andy

Perhaps some of these listed on this thread can be added to the 'Good Garages' list. I'm no longer amazed at how many review sites for businesses are flooded with obviously fake 1 and 5 star reviews from rivals trying to diss them and the businesses themselves and their lackies pretending they're brilliant.

all - customer care service, any good ones? - mlj2
This question has recurred over the years!

VW were the worst: a 100% record in incompetence and sense of responsibility.

Toyota by far the best. I had a 2002 Avensis 1.8 vvti that, five years and 55K later exhibited the oil consumption issue. I mentioned it to the dealer and fourteen days later a new engine had been fitted.

Skoda: two experiences, the first in the 90s when the dealer was a long established family business.
Superb! (nod in the direction of Skidpan). Nothing too much trouble and after exasperation with VW reached the point of no return, they looked after my Golf TDI with care and attention. Then, when bought by the local VW group, understandably their personal touch disappeared. Their only focus was that I was ‘extremely satisfied’ should I be contacted by Skoda HQ.

Citroen: my faithful Berlingo, were OK. Nothing either brilliant or terrible. They did everything efficiently, though I was surprised how expensive they were. In a nod to SLO, the 1.6 HDI engine did 100K without needing a spanner on it or a drop of extra oil. Faultless.

Now Honda. So far I am very pleased and quietly impressed. I bought new in June and was frankly astonished to see it had a full tank of fuel upon delivery. I thought those days were long gone.

All of this of course the experiences of one individual.