Hmmmm......the article is in the Daily Mail, truly one of the most loathsome publications ever.

As above, please reference some data as to the claims you are making!!! As for Greenpeace, whatever one may think of them, their protests are usually highly planned and effective over the years,

These people are just a menace. They haven't got a clue. The real pollution in urban areas actually comes from public transport. As for electric cars. Get real. www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-6077797/Gre...l

Have you some fact to back that up - I find it unlikley public transport causes more pollutioon that private cars.

You should see the clouds of black smoke from the old buses which First bus use round here.

Their single deckers are newer but there are two other companies which again use elderly, smoky vehicles. (Often there are three from different companies following each other on the same route, mostly empty, I can't believe they are not losing money even with subsidies)

As usual campaign groups always conveniently omit the important arguments against them.

I wonder if they've ever considered the environmental impact of manufacturing an electric car? Or the environmental impact of running one? Let's not forget the expense of buying the damn thing in the first place.

What really annoys me is that innocent people get caught up in these stunts; poor sods going about their business.

Absolutely right. 100% agreed.

As usual campaign groups always conveniently omit the important arguments against them.

I wonder if they've ever considered the environmental impact of manufacturing an electric car? Or the environmental impact of running one? Let's not forget the expense of buying the damn thing in the first place.

What really annoys me is that innocent people get caught up in these stunts; poor sods going about their business.

I read somewhere a report that electric cars are environmentally unfriendly. Expensive toxin batteries. Charged with electricity that is mostly from non eco sources. Driven by methane (a greenhouse gas) emitting vegetarians. I might have made that last one up. Maybe they should use their resources to fund battery research, and ways to make conventional cars more efficient.

Given VW recent track record, Greenpeace seem to have adopted a "fish in a barrel" approach - sure there are plenty of other potential targets in the auto industry, but need a bit more effort

If Greenpeace were really interested in tackling polution they would be going after the shipping industry and countries like China who are opening more coal fired powerstations every week.

Shipping industry is changing some of how it works due to pressure from environmental groups..

So are you saying they should not encourage car compaanie to produce more sustaibable cars because other industries pollute as well?

Shouldn't the new MOT get rid of some of these old smokers. There was a thread about the need for MOT's with improved mechanical robustness but surely a regular check on emissions has to ge a good thing. Oh and its not just immigration from 3rd world countries brexiteer object to, they don't want anyone coming in!

Malta got an entirely new fleet of buses just a few years ago I believe, but a lot of the yellow buses before then came from the 1970s. Sad in a way, but a sign of the times I suppose.

In the UK, the majority of our buses and taxis are in city centre, stop-start traffic, which are the absolute worst conditions as far as pollution goes. Given how cash-strapped councils seem to be and the possible public backlash that buying new buses to replace perfectly functional ones is a waste of money, and you can see the problem.