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Any - time owned - barney100

Wonder which backroomer has had their car the longest? Mine's a measly 3.6 year. Apparently cars aren't designed to last a long time now but you see loads of older ones around.

Any - time owned - Leif

Years ago I bought a 4 year old Micra and before it was 10 years old it fell apart. I then had an old style Ford Ka for ten years which cost a fortune to maintain in the last year or two and fell then to pieces at which point it was scrapped. I had a VW UP for 6 years, 130,000 miles, which I sold before it started to fall apart. I suspect the Up might have lasted longer than the other cars, it appeared to have a better construction despite being a basic car. I drive a lot, and winter roads are not kind to a car.

Any - time owned - RobJP

My current car is only 5 years old, with 60k on the clock now - I've owned it since it was 6 months old and it had 3k on the clock when I bought it.

In the past it's been mileage, rather than age, which dictated a change. I had a 2005 Audi A6 Avant (1.9TDi), which did 130k miles in 4 years, and before that a 2001 Audi A6 Avant (2.5TDi) which did 146k miles in 5 years. A lot of the mileage was works mileage, so fully re-imbursed, but they had a max age/miles policy which meant the car had to be changed.

Interestingly, the 1.9TDi is still going fine locally, it actually 'lives' about 100 yards from my mother-in-law ! I spoke to the owner a few months ago, the car's now past 250k miles.

Any - time owned - Andrew-T

Present workhorse car - 207SW diesel, registered April 2008, bought by me Dec.2008. Previous workhorse 306 TD, registered August '99, bought June 2002. Both very reliable cars, the earlier one still running AFAIK (I'll have to check **). The present one is the longest in my ownership; it's no classic, but it does everything I ask of it.

** Yup - just coming up to its 17th MoT at 120K miles.

Edited by Andrew-T on 17/07/2018 at 16:24

Any - time owned - skidpan

Used to keep cars for a while but gave up on that about 25 years ago. We found that after 7 years and 100000+ miles reliability could get unpredictable so instead of spending on repairs we decided to set 5 years as the limit and keep a newer car.

But about 4 years ago we inherited dads Micra, 7 years old and in perfect nick. We ran it for a year since it suited our needs at the time with not a single issue.

My Caterham was registered in 1993, just turned 25 years old. No rust but has the patina expected at that age, I am a user not a polisher. Mechanically its as good as any newer Caterham.

Any - time owned - concrete

My third Honda Accord company car was a 2.0i. One of the best vehicles I have ever used and then owned. I got it in 1990 and bought it from the lease company in 1993 with 77k miles. We kept it for SWMBO and eventually her mileage droped to about 600 per annum so we decided to sell it on. It had by then 177k and was over 17 years old. Everything still worked perfectly, the doors closed with a nice clunck, the engine was still sewing machine like. We got £300 for it from a keen Honda fan. Still saw it arond until we moved and by then it would be 24 years old. My last car was a Skoda Superb Elegance 1.9TDi PD130. It lived up to it's name and was superb. Sold it last year at 12 years old and let it go for £400 again to an enthusiast of that engine. It had about 210k miles and original everything in terms of major parts and equipment. Like Rob my cars after 2000 were personal and I reclaimed business use mileage. I was not aware we had an age or mileage policy for personal cars although it seems sensible if you are visiting clients frequently. Cheers Concrete

Any - time owned - Senexdriver
It used to be that cars would start to rust long before the engines gave out but now the bodywork outlasts the engines. To think of the money I spent on so-called rust killer, fibre glass filler, wet and dry paper and spray paint - not to mention the hours invested in trying to extend the life of my cars’ bodywork.
Any - time owned - badbusdriver

My last van was a 2006 Ford Transit Connect 1.8TDCI. I bought it in 2010 with 60k miles and it performed faultlessly until last December (approx 135k miles) when i slid off an icy road in it. Insurance would definitely have written it off despite the damage being relatively minor, so i gave it to my brother. He and a work mate have got it back on the road and he now uses it. If it wasn't for lack of time and facilities i would have done it myself, and before offering it to my brother i had seriously considered scrapping it which would have netted me £150. But i'm happy that it is still working as it served me well. BTW, had that not happened, i would have carried on using it till it died!.

Hopefully i will get similar service out of its replacement, a 2010 VW Caddy 2.0 SDI.

Any - time owned - FP

I've just done a little reckoning up.

Nearly 56 years driving. Now on my eleventh car, which I've had a year.

One of the eleven was a write-off after being rammed in the back at a roundabout, so got rid of prematurely.

As another poster says, the early cars (my first four) were eventually riddled with bodywork rust. Only the first (a Messerschmitt "bubble" car) experienced any major engine or transmission failure and several achieved mileages of well over 100,000. Nearly all were sold, however, at the point when I judged expensive bills were on the way; the exception was a Fiat Punto that I got bored with. I did not scrimp on maintenance with any of them.

With the exception of the Fiat, I enjoyed driving all of them for different reasons, but my present car (Mazda CX-5 petrol) has been the most enjoyable by far.

Any - time owned - Bromptonaut

Since 1993 when family responsibilities came along we've had 6 cars, usually with two on the road at once.

BX bought 1993 with 50k, scrapped 2005 somewhere well over 150k (not economic to repair)

Xantia bought new 2000 and scrapped 2013 at 155k (not economic to repair) - bit of a workshop queen but probably actually flat bedded only four or five times.

Berlingo bought new 2005 and traded 2015 at 155k. Had hoped to see it to 200k but was close to not being economical to repair. LEt us down three tines 2 clutch failures and failed alternator connection. Traded it for

My current 2011 Roomster bought at 70k now coming up to 100k and expected to do several more years. Never let me down

Berlingo 2 bought new 2013 and now on 78k. Never let us down and only out of course repair has been broken door mirror joystick.

A 205 bought in 1996 as a station hack. Traded for the Xantia.

Any - time owned - ExA35Owner

All apparently very low mileage:

www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2012/...t

www.mbusa.com/mercedes/heritage/events_community/o...d

...and have a look on AutoTrader (some of the very high mileages look more like typos, seven figures rather than six....)

Any - time owned - SLO76
As a trader I used to just run about in something I had in stock, usually an old smoker so it typically didn’t stay long but I did have a van that was always bought with longterm in mind as used vans are an utter minefield. The longest we’ve owned any of them was a Renault Extra that was only just beginning to cause grief at 14yrs old and 100k. Sadly Renault’s made more recently aren’t so robust, the two Kangoo’s that followed lasted 6yrs and 3yrs each.
Any - time owned - efad2

Kept a 93k clio from new for 21yrs never let me down apart from a flat battery once No major problems so just kept it going from first car to second Running it through the winter late at night after the gritters had been out did for the back wings overlapping with a 2004 focus for 10yrs The focus had no expense over sevicing other than tyres. I dont think there replacement 2014 focus ANDfiesta ecoboost will survive anything like that

Any - time owned - Engineer Andy

My current car, a Mazda 3, was bought effectively as new (an unused hire car imported from sunny Cyprus via Motorpoint) in January 2006 so is now 12.5 years old and generally running well (the steering is a bit heavier than it used to be as the pump is wearing out but it's still perfectly driveable), and with a little TLC will likely keep going for a good while as it's reasonably rust-free and has only done 65k miles consisting predominantly of longer trips.

My previous car, a k11 Nissan Micra, was bought at just over 2 years old in 1998 and was PXES for £450 2 months shy of its 10th birthday for the Mazda. It finally was scrapped (I presume) in 2011 when it's rust problems got worse and it was regularly failing MOTs (it's first cost nearly as much as it was worth and the reason I changed it) on multiple items when I looked it up recently. Still, 15 years isn't too bad for a car these days.

Not a patch on Skidpan's Caterham or John F's much regaled TR7 though.

Any - time owned - Simon

I've got a MK1 Ford Focus ST170, bought as a pre reg but effectively brand new to me in January 2005. It's a 3dr in Imperial Blue, currently the mileage is just shy of 42,000. I don't use it much...

Any - time owned - macski

I have a 2003 Alfa Romeo, owned it for eleven years, 86,000 miles, only let me down once with an imobelizer issue oh and the cigarette lighter broke as well, apart for that everything works on it and still going strong

Any - time owned - diddy1234

Owned a Kia Rio (mark 2) 1.5 l diesel brought new in 2009 and kept until 2016.

clocked up 80,000 miles and was still going strong.

got rid due to a large service, new tyres needed and brake pads.

also thought time to change.

that car lived day in day out at 80mph and never missed a beat.

also had a Vauxhall Astra 1.6l (mark 4) for 7 years and clocked up 90,000 miles.

got rid of that in the end as it had weird oil consumption issues.

Any - time owned - expat

You guys sure change your cars often. I currently run a 2003 Ford Falcon station wagon which I bought in 2005 and converted to LPG. It runs fine and there is nothing else on the market here in Australia which offers the same space and economy. The missus is driving a 2009 Hyundai i30. Her previous car was a Ford Laser (rebadged Mazda 323). We had that for 16 years and it was running fine when we sold it. My previous car was a 1979 Holden Kingswood which I kept for 25 years and sold to a collector. It was still running fine then and I believe still is. My philosophy is buy new or near new, maintain it well and run it till it becomes unreliable and uneconomic. We don't have salt or snow on the roads here so rust is not a major problem although it still can pop up in various trouble spots.

Any - time owned - Leif

You guys sure change your cars often. ... We don't have salt or snow on the roads here so rust is not a major problem although it still can pop up in various trouble spots.

Rust has been a major problem with the older cars I had, which is why I change more frequently these days. A problem with hanging on to a car for a long time is that may eventually go pop, at which point you need a new car, and it is harder to get a new one with a good discount when you can't take your time. If you have two or more cars, then that argument goes out of the window, of course.

Any - time owned - diddy1234

expat, I did read a report once that showed the average life of a car by country.

The shortest was japan at just 7 years.

The Uk came in at 14 years average life but the longest was the USA at an average age of 20 years !

Any - time owned - smallcar
I have just returned from the US and noticed how many 80s and 90s cars you saw as daily drivers eg Volvo 240, Saab 900, 80s Japanese cars eg accords etc. I presume here would those cars not pass an MOT?
Any - time owned - Andrew-T
I have just returned from the US and noticed how many 80s and 90s cars you saw as daily drivers eg Volvo 240, Saab 900, 80s Japanese cars eg accords etc. I presume here would those cars not pass an MOT?

As mentioned above, my previous 306 is coming up to its 17th MoT. My 'fun' car is a 1990 model, and I expect it to pass an MoT in a few months, possibly with a little help with loose bulbs or something. Old cars can easily pass the test if the bodywork is intact.

Any - time owned - Tester

I bought my Citroen C5 2.2 estate as an ex-demonstrator at 6 months and 3,700 miles in May 2002. Traded it in last October with 137,000 miles covered. It had all the usual maintenance replacements you'd expect and needed a new DPF at about 90,000 miles (only £300 IIRC). It was still on the original exhaust, injectors, EGR, clutch etc. No problems with the hydraulic suspension. Serviced every year and was still running very sweetly an a tremendous smooth load-lugger but I'd set myself a limit: if it needed more than £500 spent in a year on stuff other than routine servicing and wear-and-tear like tyres, it would have to go. I'd already replaced the alternator within the previous 12 months when it started to complain about ABS, so I stuck to my resolution and got rid of it. Probably a mistake, as I noticed that the new owner put it through an MoT so perhaps it was a simple/cheap problem, but I'm very happy with the new car anyway!

Any - time owned - Gibbo_Wirral

My problem is that I used to get bored with cars and want something new. But I've had a Pug 306 and 307 that I kept for over 8 years. Aside from regular services and the occasional set of brakes and tyres they just sailed through MOT after MOT with no issues.

I still keep in touch with the owners, the 1998 306 and the 2003 307 are still going strong.

Edited by Gibbo_Wirral on 18/07/2018 at 15:00

Any - time owned - Andrew-T

I bought my Citroen C5 2.2 estate as an ex-demonstrator at 6 months and 3,700 miles in May 2002. Traded it in last October with 137,000 miles covered. It had all the usual maintenance replacements you'd expect and needed a new DPF at about 90,000 miles (only £300 IIRC).

A DPF on a late-2001 car - that seems very advanced?

Any - time owned - Tester

Yes, I think the PSA Group's 2.2 HDi was about the first diesel to get a DPF -- certainly the first PSA diesel with one. It used the Eolys liquid catalyst system to reduce the ignition temperature of soot in the filter, so none of the bother you get nowadays with interrupted regeneration cycles diluting the engine oil, and provided you could get the filter reasonably hot (about 400C, I think) it would start burning off the soot. That meant that even rather short trips could still do some DPF-clearing. Sure, you had to cough up for an Eolys refill every 50 or 60 thousand miles but that's part of the maintenance costs and it still seemed to me a far superior system.

Any - time owned - John F

!980 TR7 DHC, Ziebarted. Owned by me since 1981. Never off the road. Never had to be 'restored'. Buy the best (value for money), make it last. Any advance on 37yrs?

Any - time owned - mcb100
Current car is an 02 registered Octavia 1.9TDI. 187,000 miles, and worth about £300 as it has four good tyres...
I think nothing of doing 400 miles a day in it, all at a motorway average of 57mpg (supermarket diesel). It gets no care or attention, other than fuel, washer fluid and an annual oil & filter change. When it dies, I’ll just leave it in the nearest skip!
Any - time owned - skidpan

it used the Eolys liquid catalyst system to reduce the ignition temperature of soot in the filter, so none of the bother you get nowadays with interrupted regeneration cycles diluting the engine oil, and provided you could get the filter reasonably hot (about 400C, I think) it would start burning off the soot. That meant that even rather short trips could still do some DPF-clearing. Sure, you had to cough up for an Eolys refill every 50 or 60 thousand miles but that's part of the maintenance costs and it still seemed to me a far superior system.

PSA (and manufacturers who used their engines) had to fit Eolys systems because of the location of the DPF. The PSA design placed the DPF a distance from the turbo and because of the the DPF could not reach the 600 degrees required to carry out a regen. Eolys reduced the temp needed and all should have been OK. But older poorly maintained cars did not have the tank refilled and the DPF eventually blocked after the Eolys had emptied. We looked at a 2010 Focus with the Eolys system and asked about the cost and frequency of refills. At the time Ford specified a refill every 37500 miles (3 services) at a cost of about £300. At 75000 Ford specified and refill and replacement DPF costing well over £1000. The second would not have bothered us, we don't keep cars that long now but for less money than the Focus we bought a Kia Ceed with a zero maintenance DPF that had been designed to work correctly with the DPF right next to the turbo.

It was not a superior system, it was a system that was made necessary by the design of the car.

Any - time owned - Chrome

Kia Rio mk2 1.5 CRDI purchased new by myself in March 2007, so 11.5 years and 87k. Did have an ABS light on post MOT this year for a good month or so , now behaving itself. I like this car as it is reliable, drives well and cheap to run. Still on the original battery. Guilty pleasure - I have the oldest car amongst my small group of work colleagues...

Edited by Chrome on 20/07/2018 at 22:43

Any - time owned - John F

PS - SHMBO's Mk1 Ford Focus Estate auto is nearly 18yrs old, owned by us 14yrs, only once failed to start (in a road works traffic jam on the A21!) when the fuel pump fuse blew.

BTB,MIL

Any - time owned - Tester

That's interesting history that I had not appreciated; thanks for that, Skidpan. Interesting how a lot of folks still get DPF problems with their modern diesels, though, isn't it?

Those Ford Eolys refill prices are pretty eye-watering -- IIRC mine cost about £120 all-in at a trusted local Citroen specialist. (I don't have the receipts anymore because they went with the car.) I only got it done when the car warned me it was getting low, and needed a couple of refills in the 15 years I had the car. (To be fair, it was probably going down a bit when I sold it.) One thing that would use up Eolys quickly was topping up the fuel tank frequently, as the system used magnets on the filler cap to signal that fuel had been added and then put a fixed amount of Eolys into the tank. Clearly one shouldn't run the tank too close to empty but I always held off until it was showing about quarter-full on the gauge (which meant 3 to 4 gallons on the C5). Specifying a refill at rather short mileage intervals sounds like a nice little earner for Ford that would not be necessary if, like the C5, the car gave a clear warning in advance of it being necessary.

As for getting problems after ignoring Eolys levels, it's a classic case of 'RTFM'!

Any - time owned - madf

We woned our Peugeot 106D for 15 years until crashed.

Our 2003 Yaris (bought sh at 2 years) is now 15 and going strong. AApart from consumables, it's had new glowplus, heater resistor, window mechanism repaired innumerable front AR drop arm links.. Repair costs under £200 ocer 13 years of ownership..

What's a DPF? :-)

Our Jazz is 6...

Edited by madf on 23/07/2018 at 16:21

Any - time owned - Quadratica

Passed test in 1987.

1987-1993: VW

1993-2003: Audi

2003-2012: Nissan

2012-now Nissan

4 cars in 31 years purchased at a total cost of £14K. Self-service and never had a break-down (neither have the cars)

Edited by Quadratica on 28/07/2018 at 20:56

Any - time owned - barney100

Some folks had their cars for a very long time which I think is great. I'm coming up to 4 years now on my 2012 SLK 250d and don't do many miles since retiring so hope to keep it for a long time. People I know are paying a lot for PCPs...think thats right..when you pay monthly and after your time is up give it back or pay to keep it, wouldn't suit me but each to their own. Financially hanging on to your car has to make sense.