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Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - colric

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Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Miniman777
Goes without saying a dash cam can prove guilt. Got no sympathy to anyone driving over the drink limit - camera or not. She could have killed someone.

Even if you are an innocent party in an accident, police may take the memory casd as evidence and look at how you drive generally and whether you break of adhere to speed limits as a rule. It’s no different to police asking for drivers mobile post-crash to check activity. Furthermore police can and do download mobile phone contents in serious cases and GPS data could prove/disprove things too.

Modern tech is great, but it can catch you unawares too.
Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Smileyman

i've not opened the link, and drunk drivers deserve all that comes to them (and more) ... but this is one good reason for having a small sized memory card in the dashcam ... having a small card constantly being over-written is not the same as intentionally destroying evidence (which is of course is an offence)

also no GPS, no evidence created, I never understand why road users need GPS in a dashcam, it's often more expensive to buy, and the screen is too small to view when driving (surely illegal to do so too?)

Edited by Smileyman on 30/04/2018 at 22:58

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Leif
GPS can remind you where you were, and it can tell you your speed, which can help you assess your driving. It isn’t essential, but it costs peanuts. As far as I know the indicated speed cannot be used against you as it has not been calibrated. Obviously if it films you driving dangerously, that can be used against you. Rather than use a small memory card, why not just drive safely? Obviously none of us are perfect, but surely if you are concerned that the film will be used against you, something is amiss.

Yes I think it is illegal to watch while driving, although mine shows a continuous display of the road ahead. Eh?
Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - FP

"Yes I think it is illegal to watch while driving, although mine shows a continuous display of the road ahead."

Not sure about that, but mine by default does not display anything after it has booted up; this can be overridden, but the manual warns against it.

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - badbusdriver

"Yes I think it is illegal to watch while driving, although mine shows a continuous display of the road ahead."

Not sure about that, but mine by default does not display anything after it has booted up; this can be overridden, but the manual warns against it.

Mine too, screen fires up when I start the van but goes blank after 30 seconds or so.

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Gibbo_Wirral

Most screens turn off after a set period - or can remain on. Its in the settings (which people probably never check).

As for GPS, that's been instrumental in proving where a car has been - such as the guy who dropped his high performance car in for a service and it was rallied around the district by a mechanic.

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Smileyman
Obviously none of us are perfect, but surely if you are concerned that the film will be used against you, something is amiss.

Expect the unexpected ... plan for the worse and hope for the best .. and don't give away uncessary gifts. My driving is not the matter in contention, my comments are more "general" then "me centric". Think of it as an act of kindness or generosity by sharing useful tips.

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Leif
Obviously none of us are perfect, but surely if you are concerned that the film will be used against you, something is amiss.

Expect the unexpected ... plan for the worse and hope for the best .. and don't give away uncessary gifts. My driving is not the matter in contention, my comments are more "general" then "me centric". Think of it as an act of kindness or generosity by sharing useful tips.

I can’t make head nor tail of your post. Could you explain in plain English? The truth is that as long as you drive with due care and attention, your video is far more likely to lead the someone else’s prosecution. I once sent in a video of an accident. A van overtook a 4x4 and then braked suddenly. The 4x4 rear ended the van, which then sped off. I assumed they would arrest the van driver. The van driver was not pursued. The driver of the 4x4 was fined and sent on a driving course, I felt quite bad about that, and in future I will not send in videos to the police, unless it’s serious such as someone being run over.

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Gibbo_Wirral
I once sent in a video of an accident. A van overtook a 4x4 and then braked suddenly. The 4x4 rear ended the van, which then sped off. I assumed they would arrest the van driver. The van driver was not pursued. The driver of the 4x4 was fined and sent on a driving course, I felt quite bad about that, and in future I will not send in videos to the police, unless it’s serious such as someone being run over.

My dashcam footage has cost two "professional" drivers their jobs. I don't lose sleep over it.

I contacted two companies over incidents involving their drivers.

They interviewed both drivers, who obviously had their own version of events.

Company rep came back to me and said "sorry, we've spoken to our driver who claims it didn't happen" or words to that effect.

I reply with "oops, sorry I forgot to send you my dashcam footage", here it is.

24 hours later - a second apology with driver dismissed for being a liar and a bad driver.

I've been a "white van man" in the past, but I've been sensible enough to drive carefully, knowing my company details are plastered all over it. If today's drivers are too stupid to realise that, or think the only time they'll get caught is by a fixed speed camera or a parked copper then they don't deserve to be on the road.

Edited by Gibbo_Wirral on 02/05/2018 at 13:30

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Leif
My dashcam footage has cost two "professional" drivers their jobs. I don't lose sleep over it.

The example I gave was in my opinion unjustified hence my regret. That reminds me, I have a video of a lorry driver giving me an obscene gesture for no reason whatsoever. Must send it to the company concerned ...

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - CrazyInWeston
I once sent in a video of an accident. A van overtook a 4x4 and then braked suddenly. The 4x4 rear ended the van, which then sped off. I assumed they would arrest the van driver. The van driver was not pursued. The driver of the 4x4 was fined and sent on a driving course, I felt quite bad about that, and in future I will not send in videos to the police, unless it’s serious such as someone being run over.

You never said why the van driver had to brake in the first place, seeing you were there witnessing the scene, why did the van driver "braked suddenly" - Anyway, said 4x4 was now BEHIND the van, so any accident WOULD be the 4x4's fault for driving too closely to the van. The onus is on the car behind to be at a safe gap at all times just in case the vehicle in front stops suddenly.

Sure the van driver should have stopped too (cos he got hit from behind) but it was 100% the 4x4's fault, so your video was right, the blame was right, dont be discouraged sending videos in future.

Edited by David Perren on 02/05/2018 at 20:52

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Leif
I once sent in a video of an accident. A van overtook a 4x4 and then braked suddenly. The 4x4 rear ended the van, which then sped off. I assumed they would arrest the van driver. The van driver was not pursued. The driver of the 4x4 was fined and sent on a driving course, I felt quite bad about that, and in future I will not send in videos to the police, unless it’s serious such as someone being run over.

You never said why the van driver had to brake in the first place, seeing you were there witnessing the scene, why did the van driver "braked suddenly" - Anyway, said 4x4 was now BEHIND the van, so any accident WOULD be the 4x4's fault for driving too closely to the van. The onus is on the car behind to be at a safe gap at all times just in case the vehicle in front stops suddenly.

Sure the van driver should have stopped too (cos he got hit from behind) but it was 100% the 4x4's fault, so your video was right, the blame was right, dont be discouraged sending videos in future.

The van driver overtook at a good speed just before a cross roads, using the lane that is normally for turning right, he then pulled in quickly, and a few seconds later as he reached the other side he emergency braked coming to a stop very rapidly. It was night, so the 4x4 driver would not have realised until too late what was happening. The 4x4 driver would have been hard pushed to react quickly enough to prevent a rear end collision. The van driver left the scene which I believe is an offence. I feel contempt for the office based police officer who made the decision to penalise the 4x4 driver. And I’d love to see how this pen pusher would behave in the same circumstances.incidentally I was behind the 4x4 but I was able to maintain a safe gap, hence I had no problem stopping.

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Leif
And to answer the question of why he braked, I can’t say for sure. I suspect he overtook so quickly, pulling in recklessly, that he had poor visibility of the junction until the last second, and he mistakenly thought some pedestrians were about to step into the road. It’s the sort of thing that happens when someone drives carelessly.
Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - TheGentlemanThug

In a way, the black BMW (I think it's a BMW) in front towards the end of the video did her a favour. If no vehicle had been in front she could have hit that stationary car at a much higher speed.

Regardless, she may have gotten off lightly because nobody was hurt, but if it's true that the driver was a school teacher, I doubt she'll be in that profession for much longer; can't say I have any pity.

Not always an advantage to the owner. - Dashcam - Leif

In a way, the black BMW (I think it's a BMW) in front towards the end of the video did her a favour. If no vehicle had been in front she could have hit that stationary car at a much higher speed.

Regardless, she may have gotten off lightly because nobody was hurt, but if it's true that the driver was a school teacher, I doubt she'll be in that profession for much longer; can't say I have any pity.

The parked car did her a favour by bringing her to a conclusive stop, thereby preventing a far worse accident. Punishment for drink driving is harsh but fair, I hope she does not lose her job.