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Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - offshore

I happened to see a Skoda Karoq and SEAT Ateca yesterday.

To me they look like a large Range Rover size vehicle.

Is it really possible that a 1.0 Litre petrol engine can successfully power a vehicle this size?

I feel very much out of date and ignorant of mechanics - is it really a good option I wonder?

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - skidpan

I happened to see a Skoda Karoq and SEAT Ateca yesterday.

To me they look like a large Range Rover size vehicle.

Should have gone to Specsavers. Suggest you park a large Range Rover next to a Karoq or Ateca and then post back.

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - offshore

OK I have done that - the size of a Discovery/ Evoque.

NB. Isnt 1000cc what Agostini used to win on - showing my age!

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - Engineer Andy

OK I have done that - the size of a Discovery/ Evoque.

NB. Isnt 1000cc what Agostini used to win on - showing my age!

Perhaps an 'older generation' Disco or a new Discovery Sport, which are about the same size.

Don't forget that the 1 litre engine used is a turbocharged one, and, as VAG have been at it for the smaller engines for longer than most makes, their under 2 ltr petrol-turbo engines are considered to be amongst, if not the best in the business in terms of usable performance and mpg for the size of engine. In rough terms, a 1.0T is roughly the equivalent to a normally-aspirated (non-turbo) 1.6ltr petrol engine, given the relatively high power and torque output of the little turbo-petrols.

I would say that its still a bit on the low power side for cars of that size though - the 1.4TSi and new variant in 1.5TSi form is better suited and gives better performance without sacrificing mpg due to its cylinder on demand (COD or ACT) feature.

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - badbusdriver

The Seat Ateca 1.0 has a 3 cyl engine producing 115bhp from 5000-5500rpm and 147.5lb/ft of torque from 2000-3500rpm. It weighs 1280kg (with driver) so has a power to weight ratio of 89.8bhp per ton and 115.2lb/ft per ton.

The original Range Rover was cosidered to have more than adequate performance, especially for a 4x4. It had a 3.5l V8 producing 130bhp at 5000rpm, and 185lb/ft of torque at 2500rpm. It weighed 1770kg, so had a power to weight ration of 73.5bhp per ton and 104.5lb/ft of torque per ton.

As i see it, there are 2 problems here. 1st, as with a lot of people, you are simply looking at this from the point of view of it having a 1.0 engine in a relatively large body. And not what you should be looking at, which is how much power does it have, how much torque (at what rpm) does it have, and how much does it weigh. 2nd problem is expectations of performance. Thanks, in part, to numpties like Clarkson, people expect to be able to go as fast as they want and to be able to beat everything else away from the traffic lights. Car magazines are all very guilty of this, essentially dismissing pretty much any car which takes longer than about 6 or 7 seconds to hit 60mph. For people who want and expect this, the Ateca 1.0 will be worse than useless. The stats say the Ateca will do 114mph flat out and takes 11 seconds to hit 60mph. For comparison, the 2.0 8 valve version of the MK4 golf GTI was only a second quicker to 60mph.

Nobody is saying the Ateca is going to be a ball of fire, but does that really matter?. It is perfectly capable of keeping up with the traffic flow. So people who have a realistic expectation of it's performance and have no need to be at the front of the queue all the time will find it perfectly acceptable.

As to the long term reliability of having an engine like this in a car like the Ateca, well that is a whole different argument. But if you plan to get one new and be out of it before the warranty is up, you shouldn't need to worry about it.

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - offshore

Some good points made in the above posts.

You have hit the nail on the head - I am a slow driver and certainly no speed merchant. It is primarily the reliabity side of this that concerns me - if I bought a new car I would be looking to buy for cash (or at least not PCP) and keep it for 7 or more years.

I dont want to tow anything, but would like it not to struggle up a hill or need to rev too high on the motorway - that would be my assumption, based on old fashioned ideas I suppose.

I see the T-Roc is also available with a similar/same 1.0 engine.

I am veering towards a LEON ST with the older and larger 1.2 TSI - but still unsure if the 17" wheels on the cheapest option will make the ride too firm (still trying to establish that).

I would go for the T-Roc with the 1.5 petrol if I had the extra cash - but I dont unfortunately. A large enough vehicle without being too large for around town etc.

I have done a lot of online research in the past fortnight, and I am grateful for the responses/advice/opinions I have received.

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - badbusdriver

As was mentioned in your previous post, you'd really need to try the leon yourself.

I know i said myself that the leon is often criticised for it's ride on bigger wheels. But that is quite hypocritical given that my wife has a honda jazz on the bigger wheels. It is also often criticised for having a harsh ride, but while i would agree that it is firm, i don't think it harsh at all.

Each to their own and all that!

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - argybargy

As was mentioned in your previous post, you'd really need to try the leon yourself.

I know i said myself that the leon is often criticised for it's ride on bigger wheels. But that is quite hypocritical given that my wife has a honda jazz on the bigger wheels. It is also often criticised for having a harsh ride, but while i would agree that it is firm, i don't think it harsh at all.

Each to their own and all that!

Having driven first a Mk2 Focus with "sports suspension" and then a B Max over the last eight years, BBD, I can assure you that in comparison the Jazz does not have a harsh ride!

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - Metropolis.

61ci belong on motorbikes.. I bet these motors won't last 100,000 miles without catastrophic failure!

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - badbusdriver

61ci belong on motorbikes.. I bet these motors won't last 100,000 miles without catastrophic failure!

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Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - Metropolis.

I was about to say I stand corrected, but then again we don't know what it has needed under warranty in that time.

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - KJP 123

It’s not a bad comparison; compared to the original Range Rover it is only 3 inches shorter and is an inch and a half wider. From what has been written above it does appear considerably lighter though.

I am sure they are quite driveable – Ford as well seem to be doing the same thing – but I had a poor experience with a hired Toyota Yaris some years ago. Diesel 1.4, so not the same thing, but no power until the turbo is spinning and I fear the same.

So bad you had to rev the engine to overcome road camber when manoeuvring. Not enough power to get up incline when I turned left (in France) in second and first too low. You should not need to completely stop and engage first if nothing coming.

Skoda Ateca - 1.0 Litre Engines in Large Cars - Metropolis.

A saving grace on underpowered cars can be a proper auto gearbox. I know it saps some power, but compared to the grind you describe of one gear being too low and the other too high, being able to just put it in D and forget about it can be a such a relief.