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Clocked car - Jademarie00
Hi all,

So i bought my car from a private dealer 9 months ago and have been using this car to learn to drive in, i then passed my test recently.

Now when i bought this car it is a 10 year old car that was advertised as low mileage as it had only done 13,000 miles. Now i did consider it unusual but somehow i managed to fall for it.

I then take my car out as a new driver recently and my friend informs me that it has probably been clocked.
She showes me its MOT history and it has actualy infact done 70,000 miles.

Now im aware that i clearly have been conned here but im just curious if i have a leg to stand on considering i bought this car 9 months ago. Is it too late for me to do anything about it? As i bought this car at a higher price under the false advertisement of it being such low mileage.

Or should i cut my losses and learn to not be so gullable

Thanks
Clocked car - RobJP

Unless you've got some form of evidence that it was sold to you under false pretences - rather than just you 'remembering' that it was sold as low mileage, etc. then I don't think you've got any grounds at all.

MOT histories have been online - for free, on the DVLA website - for a number of years. If you can't be bothered spending 5 minutes doing a bit of research, then you have to take at least some responsibility for your own negligence.

Just because the odometer doesn't match the MOT history doesn't mean the car has been clocked. A failed dash unit might have had to be replaced, for example. Or, if it's just one instance, then it might be 'fat fingers' and an error in entering the data by the MOT tester.

Finally, there is no such thing as a 'private dealer'. It's either bought from a private vendor (regular joe public, selling their own car) or it's bought from a dealer - the type of dealer doesn't matter.

If you'll put up the registration number, then myself (or others) will be happy to take a detailed look at the MOT history and see if there is any indication of what has happened, and why it has happened.

Clocked car - Jademarie00
Sorry, im not exactly very knowledgable on cars and i wasnt aware that you could check mot history on the dvla website.

I am more than happy to learn my lesson and accept it if its just a case of me being an idiot. Like i say i only passed my test recently and unfortunately i dont know many people that are able to give me much advise on cars.

As far as im aware ive been told that i have been conned and thought i would come here for some advise.

Its not that i cant be bothered i am simply coming here for some advise from people who might be able to help me as i am fully aware that i dont have the knowledge myself.

I have just checked on the dvla and the last MOT it had which was 3 weeks before i bought it said it had 68,000 miles and the MOT was a pass.

FG57WBW

Edited by Jademarie00 on 14/01/2018 at 00:16

Clocked car - Smileyman

Do you have any evidence to support your claim that the car's mileage was changed? eg an advert for the car showing 13,000 miles, or the invoice when you purchased it showing the mileage.

Clocked car - catsdad
Jademarie, welcome to the forum. Don't be too hard on yourself, you are no more gullible than the majority of car buyers.

The most recent MOT has the higher mileage and, from the dates, must have been done just before you bought it. Any clocking must have been in that window between the test and your buying it. I am not familiar with the particular model but, to eliminate one possibility, are you sure that the mileometer display hasn't just been switched off and you are seeing a trip meter of some sort? Its unlikely but worth checking.

Assuming you are indeed looking at the main milometer then I agree with Smileyman and SLO that the key thing is whether the 13000 was formally recorded. If it wasn't and it was just advertised as "low mileage" then the dealer was telling the truth as 70000 is indeed low for that age. Incidentally the difference in value across these mileages is £600 or so.

While very low miles car do attract a premium, most of the regulars in here would probably regard a well-maintained 70000 miler as a better buy than a little used 13000 miler. Lots of parts of a car benefit from regular use and deteriorate with under use. So you may well have bought the better car by accident.

Although few cars of this age have full service histories do you have any service history? If so this will show the mileage history and undermine any case you might have as its a reasonable expectation that a buyer looks at the service records.

The wider MOT history is a bit odd but not necessarily suspicious. The month of renewal has changed twice, there is one very low miles year and there is an apparent gap. These might just reflect the car being with a dealer awaiting a buyer at some points in its life.

Finally you have had the car 9 months. If its going well and you are enjoying it then you may want to put it down to experience.
Clocked car - SLO76
Did they advertise it as having only 13,000 miles and did you keep a copy of the advert? If you didn’t then it’s your word against theirs. They should’ve been clear about it yes but I doubt it was clocked, if they’d fiddled the mileage they’d’ve trimmed it to a more realistic level instead of such a low mileage. 99% chance it’s simply had a replacement instrument panel which isn’t an uncommon failure on Peugeot 207’s. How much did you pay for it? It’s hardly high mileage anyway and has it been a decent enough car?
Clocked car - Andrew-T
Hi all, So i bought my car from a private dealer 9 months ago and have been using this car to learn to drive in,

What is a 'private dealer' ? I'm surprised many of them still try this on, knowing that MoT histories are available online, but I guess they assume that there are still plenty born every minute. Though they must worry more about being caught?

As for clocking from 70K to 13K, that's just daft. They could always claim the odo had to be replaced, but that seems unlikely less than 3 weeks after an MoT at 68K.

Edited by Andrew-T on 14/01/2018 at 09:45

Clocked car - argybargy

Welcome to the forum; you have come to the right place for advice.

We all learn by our mistakes and to castigate you for making that mistake is simply wrong, nor does it do anything to encourage the lifeblood of this forum, which is the arrival and retention of new posters.

I once bought a Rover 800 on the basis of it having done 70k miles, and it quickly became apparent that the mileage was much more than that. I bought from an independent dealer but being young and inexperienced in the buying of cars, and without sources of advice like this one or support from someone older and wiser, I was too intimidated by the idea of doing anything about it to follow the matter up. Nowadays I wouldn't hesitate.

Essentially and as said above, you would need some documentation from the time of sale to prove that the car was sold with 13k miles. If you had that, you would then be able to compare this against the MOT history, which you can print off, to show to the dealer that they have made, at best a serious error and at worst have ripped you off.

If you look elsewhere on this website you will find references to consumer law when it comes to buying used cars. Have a good read, because if there IS documentation stating that the car had only 13k miles on the clock, and it was a dealer rather than a private seller that you bought from, you MIGHT be able to do something about it.

If it was a private seller there's little you can do except appeal to their sense of decency.. and (edit) as others have said, if you're happy with the car otherwise, then you may well be able to put it down to experience because you've learned a valuable and not particularly costly lesson.

Very best of luck.

Edited by argybargy on 14/01/2018 at 10:21

Clocked car - Jademarie00
Thankyou for your replies!

Unfortunately i dont have much evidence to prove anything but i am happy with the car.
He did advertise it as low mileage and then told me it had only done 13000 miles but i am happy regardless.

I atleast now know what i am meant to do when buying a car.

Thanks for the help!

Clocked car - nellyjak

Just one of life's little lessons....and we have all had those...but we learn.

You seem to have come out of it quite well and even given the mileage discrepancy, 70k is not exactly moon miles for a 10 year old car.

Enjoy what you have and you are better equipped for next time.!!