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sanef tolling- spain/portugal - concrete

I have used the sanef prepaid tag in France and it worked very well, saving time and effort.

They now offer a tag for Spain and Portugal. I know HJ has used one, but has anyone else recently? Any comments about the experience would be welcome, before I visit the website or order one. We catch the ferry to Bilbao quite soon.

Cheers Concrete

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - Bilboman

Some points about the tollbooths in northern Spain, where I live: (It's only on stretches of Autopista in the Basque Country that we actually have tolls to contend with, and the franchises have another 15 years to run!)
* There are now no "dedicated" tollbooth lanes for cars equipped with the electronic payment device, at least on the AP8 and AP68; all tollbooth lanes seem to be shared, so keep an eye on the illuminated signs - "T" (automatic toll payment); green arrow ("all vehicles") and "cash/card payment only" (white dot matrix) above your chosen lane.
* Lane designations seem to be at the whim of the operator - and with staff cutbacks, there may only be one attended booth out of a dozen or more.
* Automatic barriers are especially slow on the AP8. In eastern Spain, the AP7 has gone in the opposite direction, with newly introduced "free flow" barrier-free operation allowing fairly rapid transit (up to 60 km/h).
* Always be on the lookout for last minute lane-changers in blind spot-plagued SUVs and "Fitipaldis" who regard the 40 km/h approach speed as a minimum and "only for wimps".
¡Buenas vacaciones!
*A word of warning: an ongoing wildcat strike amongst some of Bilbao's traffic wardens makes on-street parking a bit complicated - I'd recommend using underground car parks if possible. Coastal towns of Algorta, Plentzia and Sopela are well worth a visit IMHO*

Edited by Bilboman on 08/01/2018 at 22:33

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - colinh

As Bilboman has noted, Spain is very mixed with free autovias and tolled autopistas. Frequently travel from N.W. to S.E., and only 50 kms of 950kms is tolled, but that section costs €13, so use the parallel National road instead.

Not used Portugese roads, but this website may help...

www.tripinsiders.net/electronic-toll-roads-in-port.../

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - colinh

P.S. Some bad weather about currently (some motorists trapped for 18 hours on the toll road North of Madrid last weekend) - worth checking this website for the latest info. Just zoom in for weather, cameras, overhead panel signs, etc:

infocar.dgt.es/etraffic/

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - concrete

Thank you both for your valuable input. From the Bilbao ferry I shal use the AP68 to Mirande, then the AP1 to Burgos for a few days, then carry on to Madrid on the AP1. I just hope the weather isn't too bad for travelling. The caravan has good heating so not too worried about the chilly weather, just the road conditions. I hope they grit the motorways like the rest of Europe.

Cheers Concrete

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - colinh

Usually they have gritters on standby at each junction - the problem at the weekend is being blamed on the private company who run that stretch of toll road. To be fair a lot of snow came down, and it was the "Three Kings" holiday:

www.elprogreso.es/articulo/galicia/asufin-prepara-...l

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - Bilboman

Update. Previous information regarding signposting of lanes on Spanish autopistas isn't quite correct. The green arrow is lit on all lanes now, rendering the sign useless. Lanes which ONLY admit automatic "Via-T" devices have a circular "T" sign, but mixed-payment lanes show a square "T" sign, so you may get stuck behind a cash/card payer. Brilliantly stupid ergonomics at work.
FYI: Amongst the strange rules for caravanning in Spain (no doubt you already know some of these!) it is permissible to stop to eat or sleep (the inside of a car, caravan or motorhome is considered private territory) on any road at any time, providing you are "stopping" (estacionar) rather than "camping" (acampar). The latter includes setting out tables or chairs, opening an awning, emptying grey water or simply opening a window if it protrudes from the outline of the vehicle. "Camping" has to be done at registered campsites. This law is applicable throughout Spain, although some town councils have enacted by-laws to the contrary, which are actually illegal.

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - concrete

Thanks Bilboman. Very quaint laws indeed. We have several camping site guides and normally would only use a dedicated site for the facitities they offer. Looking forward to some winter sunshine, although our first stop in Burgos could be on the chilly side. As long as the sky is blue and it is not raining we will be happy. Thanks also to colin, the forecast heading down to madrid looks reasonable too. Fingers crossed.

Cheers Concrete

sanef tolling- spain/portugal - colinh

The following is the weather office's website - just put the name of the town you're interested in, and you'll get a 7-day forecast:

www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/prediccion/municipios/bur...9

Not sure when you're travelling, but there's a yellow alert for snowfall in Burgos at the weekend!:

www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/prediccion/avisos?w=pmna