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Some car parks have parking slots which make it a very tight sqeeze between cars. Best local one is the town centre in Town which even big cars get in easily but the Brooks one in Winchester is a mess. Even getting in a space dosen't mean you will be able to open your door wide enough to get out.
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There should be a legal obligation to provide space which are correctly sized to allow easy use. Until there is all we can do is opt to take our custom elsewhere. I know I tend to avoid stores where there’s a risk of damage to my car.
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The only car park I can think of with big enough spaces is Costco. Just about anywhere else is risking a ding.
I usually head for the empty corner, if there is one.
There is no hope of changing this because 'they' want us to drive smaller cars, not bigger ones.
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My local Asda actually has different sized spaces, I don't think this was deliberate, just poorly planned!. None are big enough for the gargantuan SUV's clogging up our roads though. In the town I live in, the most generous sized parking spaces can be found in Lidls.
Slightly off topic, but I live on a narrow street in one of the oldest areas of the town. The fact that we now have a Honda jazz is largely down to my looking specifically for a car that was spacious enough for our needs, but also relatively narrow for getting parked without causing an obstruction.
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There is no hope of changing this because 'they' want us to drive smaller cars, not bigger ones.
What a strange and paranoid remark. Who are 'they' ? And driving smaller cars is a good intention IMHO.
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What a strange and paranoid remark. Who are 'they' ? And driving smaller cars is a good intention IMHO.
Why so aggressive? Do you think I am wrong? Do you think parliament would pass a law for wider parking spaces?
It was a simple response to SLO76's "There should be a legal obligation to provide space which are correctly sized to allow easy use." There is absolutely no chance of that because those in whose gift it lies do not want us to drive larger cars. Or do you disagree?
I made no comment on the desirability or otherwise of a policy for smaller cars.
And by the way, it isn't paranoia if 'they' are out to get you:)
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Some of us have large families and need a larger car how do expect a family of 5 to fit in someyhing like a toyota aygo
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Some of us have large families and need a larger car how do expect a family of 5 to fit in someyhing like a toyota aygo
Did anyone say that? Most makers now produce much fatter cars than they used to, and many people rush out and buy them. Not all big cars are filled with large families, even some of the time. I can't comment on the size of your family, nor do I wish to.
But if you are saying that because you happen to drive a fat car, the authorities should spend some of your taxes on widening parking spaces (and what about all those narrow lanes?) I beg to differ. You made the decision, and many decisions have a downside, which can often be foreseen with a bit of thought.
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I was referring to the fact that the taxation system of cars up until recently has been biasd to cars that produce low CO2 (often small cars have the lowest) I drive a car that is 11 years old as the family bus and yes it's a large car but I can still fit in in to most car park spaces and I can get it through smaller spaces than people with smaller cars (a proportion if drivers lack spacial awareness).
The fact that the government penalise people even though they need a large car was my point
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<< It was a simple response to SLO76's "There should be a legal obligation to provide space which are correctly sized to allow easy use." There is absolutely no chance of that because those in whose gift it lies do not want us to drive larger cars. Or do you disagree? >>
In a word, yes. If you imply that you 'do wish to drive a larger car', that's a choice you are free to make - but I don't see the need to moan at 'them' because you find the parking spaces tight.
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‘They’ are the lefty ecomentalists ruining the country.
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‘They’ are the lefty ecomentalists ruining the country.
The people of your description haven't been in office for seven years.
Edited by corax on 15/12/2017 at 14:17
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I usually head for the empty corner, if there is one.
I do the same, but have come back to my car several times to find someone has parked right next to it despite there being dozens of empty spaces available nearby.
The other annoying thing is finding a learner driver being given their first lesson in how to park a car lurching around right next to mine.
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There should be a legal obligation to provide space which are correctly sized to allow easy use.
There will be a 'standard' size of parking bay defined in the days when cars were several inches narrower. Don't blame the parking slots, blame the car makers (and buyers) for the obesity trend. If all the bays in a multistorey were widened to take bigger cars, there would be (obviously) fewer slots, so something else to grumble about. And in most of them the slots can't be widened because of pillars everywhere.
Similarly there is a 'standard' size of garage for house builders, but as almost no-one keeps their car indoors these days, that doesn't matter much. It'll be big enough to turn into a pool-room or a sauna.
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There will be a 'standard' size of parking bay defined in the days when cars were several inches narrower. Don't blame the parking slots, blame the car makers (and buyers) for the obesity trend.
The greater width of cars is a result of years of lobbying to make cars 'safer', as well as airbags and crumple zones fore and aft this has meant manufacturers making doors more resistant to side impact, the trend for fat central consoles between wide front seats also dictates wider cars.
Look at 1960s/1970s cars in museums or classic car shows and it is obvious that they had the same interior space in cars considerably narrower.
So the manufacturers aren't directly to blame, politicians, NCAP ratings and public demands for 'luxury' interiors meant they had to respond.
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Absolutely no external public car parks were actually cleared of impacted snow and ice earlier this week, making designated parking blinking impossible.
....finding the boardering white line would have required a shovel-and if dark-a torch. I'm surprised councils didn't close them for health and safety reasons-but then they wanted the money didn't they?
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After parking in one such tight spot once, I had to come out of the car using rear hatch.
Most cars have 5 doors. So just use 5th door if there is any problem :-)
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>>I had to come out of the car using rear hatch.<<
Or use the sunroof for those really difficult spaces !
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Our new Aldi has generous sized spaces... it aint rocket science. The likes of tesco etc could have a car park re lined in a weekend...instead I vote with my tyres.
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We just had a few days in southern spain, where my hire car was a Fiat Punto. I got the fright of my life negotiating the streets of Seville to get to our hotel. I paid the concierge to drive my car around the back of the hotel and into the lift to the undergound parking, but he wasn't around at 0500 monday morning so i nearly had a fright getting it out..
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We built a Morrisons supermarket in Yorkshire about 20 years ago. When it came to delineating the car park the contractor revealed that information he was using was from the 60's and really not suitable for today. We approached the client and asked to incease the bay size in accordance with our own measurements. Not scientific, but taken from our own contractors car park contents. They hummed and ahhed about this, clearly worried that they would have fewer bays. When it was pointed out that any bay that was too small was effectively useless they agreed with us and we increased the bay size by 200mm in width and 200mm in length. Not much but what a difference when parking. Even the director who visited the store opening agreed it had been the right thing to do. His SWMBO had been nagging him on the very subject! In a previous thread this week I told of how my brother got his Audi A8 stuck in a French car park. In my experience at least we don;t have their problems with miniscule bays and narrow access and agress points.
Cheers Concrete
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Our new Aldi has generous sized spaces... it aint rocket science. The likes of tesco etc could have a car park re lined in a weekend...instead I vote with my tyres.
I agree, we have a new Aldi and although I always walk (it is very close), the first thing I noticed (even as a pedestrian) was the wide bays.
Still doesn't stop some of the local heros waiting (almost) in the lobby with their smelly diesels ticking-over though!
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After parking in one such tight spot once, I had to come out of the car using rear hatch.
Most cars have 5 doors. So just use 5th door if there is any problem :-)
All right if your fit but hard if you suffer from arthritis, but even in places that have half decent sized spaces, you get the wallies that park as they please for their own convenience, and make life difficult for those around them, Tesco is one of the worst for that imo
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Also, it only takes one badly parked car to mess up a whole row. For example, the only space I can find is a tight squeeze because a car in one of the adjacent spaces is parked at an angle and right next to the line. So I have to park my car as best I can to give resonable clearance on both sides, which means my car is a bit off-centre in its space too. I go in the shops and when I come back the cars on both sides are gone and my car looks like the carelessly parked one! So maybe the previous badly parked car was also result of yet another badly parked car.
Edited by Sofa Spud on 15/12/2017 at 10:16
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My wife has a blue badge so we get to park in those lovely wide disabled spaces. Less risk of dents from doors being flung open and the rest of that supermarket car park malarkey. The downside of this being that the ordinary spaces seem so much smaller in comparison than they did before she got her badge. And we drive a B Max, which is not a big car.
Heaven help those like the chap who parked next to me at the local Tesco the other night, in a double-cabbed monster truck which was so vast that it overhung the back of the parking slot by about three feet.
Maybe SUVs and other monster bus trucks should have their own spaces?
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Maybe SUVs and other monster bus trucks should have their own spaces?
Great idea, except that drivers of 'ordinary' vehicles would take advantage. So someone would have to police the spaces to prevent that ....
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My wife has a blue badge so we get to park in those lovely wide disabled spaces. Less risk of dents from doors being flung open and the rest of that supermarket car park malarkey. The downside of this being that the ordinary spaces seem so much smaller in comparison than they did before she got her badge. And we drive a B Max, which is not a big car.
Heaven help those like the chap who parked next to me at the local Tesco the other night, in a double-cabbed monster truck which was so vast that it overhung the back of the parking slot by about three feet.
Maybe SUVs and other monster bus trucks should have their own spaces?
Trouble is, those that have trolleys with wonky wheels tend to push them through the gap between the cars, mines been scratched a couple of times because of this and motors you mentioned (usualy without a badge) park like idiots
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Maybe the answer (in large pay car parks) is to have a barrier filter system. If you roll up in a small car the appropriate barrier opens and directs you to the area with the smaller (and cheaper) slots. Expensive to modify present car parks, but should't be a problem for new builds.
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Unfortunately you can have marked bays that will accommodate a bus and some people will be unable to park a car within them correctly or considerately. The only way to ensure this is to erect a physical barrier between bays, but this is quite an expensive option for the car park operator, who doesn't really care if you struggle to park or your car is dinged.
Cheers Concrete
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Unfortunately you can have marked bays that will accommodate a bus and some people will be unable to park a car within them correctly or considerately. The only way to ensure this is to erect a physical barrier between bays, but this is quite an expensive option for the car park operator, who doesn't really care if you struggle to park or your car is dinged.
Cheers Concrete
Some drivers think they are driving a bus the way they cannot park, reminds me of passengers that think the road is a litter bin!?
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Oh, don't get me started on that.
People who visit the local McDoofers drive in, eat their luvverly junk food in the car, then hurl the food packaging out of the window on the way home rather than keeping it and putting it in the bin.
When the Revolution comes, I'll reserve special kinds of torture for them, and for them alone.
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The new branch of Asda in Clacton has super wide car park spaces with plenty of room for doors. For that reason when we're down there at our Van we shop in the Area. Also the cleanliness of the store and car park is a credit to whoever manages it.
Edited by Ethan Edwards on 15/12/2017 at 22:58
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"My object all sublime, I shall achieve in time,
to make the punishment fit the crime etc"
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Also, it only takes one badly parked car to mess up a whole row.
Have you watched 'Curb your enthusiasm' when larry David has a go at a guy who parks badly?
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