Mew Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 11:24
Mew Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - oldroverboy.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5045207/Cars-fail...l

Wil it happen?

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 11:37
Mew Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - RT

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5045207/Cars-fail...l

Wil it happen?

Unworkable - many safety recalls are check and only fix if faulty - recently VW Group recalled 1,000s of VW Touareg, Audi Q7 and Porsche Cayenne over a brake pedal circlip found to be wrongly fitted in a routine production at the factory - no cars in service were found to have the fault.

The electronic technology of modern cars is high - some safety recalls will involve a software change only - MoT testing stations would need car-makers diagnostic kit to check - for each brand of car? I don't think so.

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 12:17
Mew Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - FiestaOwner

Unworkable - many safety recalls are check and only fix if faulty - recently VW Group recalled 1,000s of VW Touareg, Audi Q7 and Porsche Cayenne over a brake pedal circlip found to be wrongly fitted in a routine production at the factory - no cars in service were found to have the fault.

The electronic technology of modern cars is high - some safety recalls will involve a software change only - MoT testing stations would need car-makers diagnostic kit to check - for each brand of car? I don't think so.

The way I'm reading the article, is that if the MOT stations computer shows the recall as outstanding, the car will automatically fail.

The MOT station wouldn't be checking the recall issue on the car itself.

If the manufacturer of the car has the car marked with an outstanding recall, still to be done, the car will fail. Only the manufacturer of the car or its dealer network would be able to rectify this.

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 12:25
Mew Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - Wackyracer

The company first became aware of a problem of fires in the heating and ventilation system of the Zafira B model in September 2014.

However it failed to warn the public and the official watchdog, the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA), for more than a year

So even if this system had been in place it would have solved nothing as DVLA were not aware.

Another wonderful case of a not thought out, knee jerk reaction idea by people who can't think logically!

Edited by Wackyracer on 04/11/2017 at 12:26

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 12:29
Mew Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - RT

Unworkable - many safety recalls are check and only fix if faulty - recently VW Group recalled 1,000s of VW Touareg, Audi Q7 and Porsche Cayenne over a brake pedal circlip found to be wrongly fitted in a routine production at the factory - no cars in service were found to have the fault.

The electronic technology of modern cars is high - some safety recalls will involve a software change only - MoT testing stations would need car-makers diagnostic kit to check - for each brand of car? I don't think so.

The way I'm reading the article, is that if the MOT stations computer shows the recall as outstanding, the car will automatically fail.

The MOT station wouldn't be checking the recall issue on the car itself.

If the manufacturer of the car has the car marked with an outstanding recall, still to be done, the car will fail. Only the manufacturer of the car or its dealer network would be able to rectify this.

Another problem is the ineffectiveness of DVLA recalls - the number of owners that don't receive or respond to the letter is staggeringly high

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 14:07
New Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - Miniman777

Firstly, does anyone really believe a Daily Mail feature? Their style of journalism is one to shock the middle aged and blue rinse brigade.

Next, would a system be workable? Likely as not. This system is opento a database of incorrect information, and reliant on franchised dealers updating a database. Add to that someone will have to operate and maintain said database and there is a cost involved. Who pays?

Neither is there a provision for cars under a recall system under 3 years old (soon to be 4) as they dont need MoT's, so it's a flawed idea to begin with.

Really, it's sticking plaster to an ineffective recall system where on one had manufacturers conceal or sit on serious faults as they are primarily concerned with their commercial interests coupled with ineffective legistation that would enforce greater demands on manufacturers when serious or safety related faults occur.

In our family we've owne two Mini Cooper S cars and at no stage ever received a recall letter about the turbocharger cooling pump circuit that overheats and can start a fire. It was only my insistence to a local BMW/Mini dealer that saw the fault sorted.

In the case of the Zafira, Vauxhall were woefully slow to react and that is typical of many manufacturers, plus if you recall they blamed (incorrectly) bodged repairs to deflect the bad PR that was heading their way.

No this is a rubbish idea, probably concocted at the pub by some Mail journos.

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 15:52
New Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - madf

I would turn the proposal on its head. ANY car tested without a recall being installed leads to the manuafactuurer being fined £lots..

That would solve the problem virtually immediately..

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 18:36
New Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - Andrew-T

That would solve the problem virtually immediately..

You reckon? How would you make that system work any better? I think there would be sounds of many dragging feet, especially with Brexit imminent.

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 19:47
New Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - gordonbennet

Not all recalls are a fix, some are an unfix (VW's Dieselgate reprogramming for example), Toyota cocked up the size of tyres on the UK (and probably other European countries) Invicible spec Hilux, rest of the world had the correct size but the ones fitted to the UK version was different and failed the so called Elk Test.

I'd already spotted the mistake, the car handled terribly mainly because it was ''undertyred'', i researched Thai built Vigo's and found the correct size, fitted that size and the vehicle handling was transformed, cost me pennies because the OE Pirellis i removed sold for good money.

However Toyota had a knee jerk reaction and wanted to fit smaller wheels, 15 instead of 16, with much higher aspect tyres, which actually came to the same overall size as the Vigo had in the first place, why someone in the organisation didn't spot this in the beginning is a mystery, i along with many other Hilux owners refused the recall, some others did have the fitments but mainly because it was a set of new tyres for free.

I don't know if this instance would have fallen foul of the daily mail's latest tall story.

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Sat 4 Nov 2017 19:50
New Rules:- - Fail MOT Car kept if recalls not fixed - bathtub tom

I declined to have my ten-year-old Nissan subjected to a recall for the passenger airbag (it could spit out lumps of debris if activated).

I didn't want someone dismantling my rattle free dashboard at a dealership twenty miles away. Imagine the hassle of trying to get them to fix squeaks and groans subsquently.

Selfishly, I also felt the problem wouldn't concern me as the main driver.

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