What is considered opinion on undertaking from lane 1 for a car in lane 3 of 4 on 4 lane motorways? Essentially confused middle lane hoggers.There is a whole lane and probably 4m+ gap. Is it still dangerous and if so is it any less so than on a 2 or 3 lane motorway?
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I have to say I've gone past in lane 1 when I've been towing a trailer (so banned from the outside lane). Considering that I'm limited to 60, it says more about the speed of the people in lane 3 or 4!
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I won't make an overtaking maneuver as such, i've seen some frankly idiotic swerves from an overtaking lane across to the inside lane to overtake, then a swerve back across 2 or more lanes, and a variety on the same theme when an inside lane traveller will swerve violently across the road to overtake a middle lane hogger then swerve back with an exagerrated indication to teach the 'offender' a lesson, a lesson incidentally pointless with the blinkered specimen concerned.
I will however maintain my speed and lane, if there happens to be a vehicle causing a rolling road block in a n other lane then i tend to ignore them as if they arn't there, i maintain my speed and lane, if they take umbrage so be it.
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This is where the American system works well, passing any lane. Faced with choice of slowing down, parking myself behind the slower driver in lane 3 or 4 with the hope they would see me and move over or passing with 1 - 2 empty lanes between - rightly or wrongly I'll probably pass in lane 1. However if the traffic is busy or there are special circumstances eg near a junction then sitting behind the slower driver would be is the better option.
A similar but slightly different problem that I often have to deal with on the M2 / A2 which has many 4 laned sections is when moving from lane 4 to lane 3 to let a faster vehicle past only to find a slower vehicle is hogging lane 3 whilst lane 2 is free. The temptation is to use the empty lane (lane 2) but this is where matters get complex and more dangerous.
I did see a recent feature on my twitter feed from Kent Police RPU (Road Policing Unit) about activity prosecuting drivers who hog the wrong lane, boasting that they had dealt with 2 drivers in 5 minutes for Careless Driving (lane hogging) so this matter is on the police radar.
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I will however maintain my speed and lane, if there happens to be a vehicle causing a rolling road block in another lane then i tend to ignore them as if they arn't there, i maintain my speed and lane, if they take umbrage so be it.
Same here.
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I have to say I've gone past in lane 1 when I've been towing a trailer (so banned from the outside lane). Considering that I'm limited to 60, it says more about the speed of the people in lane 3 or 4!
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On 4-lane motorways, it seems to be the norm that car drivers use lanes 3&4.
I do use lane 1 to undertake, both solo and towing, on occasions - it's not legal though.
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>I do use lane 1 to undertake, both solo and towing, on occasions - it's not legal though<
I only do it if the hogger is maintaining a set speed, very often 40-45 mph, usually a young person who I think is afraid of the motorway, I know someone like that who I had to drive somewhere, but kept telling me off for going too fast
Never drove them anywhere again!
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I do use lane 1 to undertake, both solo and towing, on occasions - it's not legal though.
I do too. I'll not slow down if someone in the middle lane is going slow, I'll just maintain my speed, but keep a wary eye out for a surprise manoeuvre from them into my lane just as I'm passing.
If I slow down, then I'm no better than they are, slowing down and disrupting traffic flow. The whole point is to keep the traffic flowing seamlessly. When it works it's much less tiring and enjoyable. But there are always selfish people who don't get it and it only takes one to put a spanner in the works.
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I do use lane 1 to undertake, both solo and towing, on occasions - it's not legal though.
I do too. I'll not slow down if someone in the middle lane is going slow, I'll just maintain my speed, but keep a wary eye out for a surprise manoeuvre from them into my lane just as I'm passing.
Sorry but since its illegal you should not be doing it even if you are being observant. Its a fair bet that the driver of the other car is not one of the most observant souls on the road (if they were they would be in the correct lane) so sudden manouvers are almost certain to occur.
Why not do what I do. Observe the road ahead and if you spot a lane hogger simply move into an overtaking lane when traffic allows and overtake them on the right.
Just because they are driving like a muppet does not mean you have to drive like one as well.
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I do use lane 1 to undertake, both solo and towing, on occasions - it's not legal though.
I do too. I'll not slow down if someone in the middle lane is going slow, I'll just maintain my speed, but keep a wary eye out for a surprise manoeuvre from them into my lane just as I'm passing.
Sorry but since its illegal you should not be doing it even if you are being observant. Its a fair bet that the driver of the other car is not one of the most observant souls on the road (if they were they would be in the correct lane) so sudden manouvers are almost certain to occur.
Why not do what I do. Observe the road ahead and if you spot a lane hogger simply move into an overtaking lane when traffic allows and overtake them on the right.
Just because they are driving like a muppet does not mean you have to drive like one as well.
Can't do that (legally) on a 3-lane motorway if you're towing - nor can any vehicle with a 56 limiter.
So there's 3 choices - overtake illegally on the left, overtake illegally on the right - or slow down causing congestion among all the other HGVs and trailers.
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On Saturday the new Managed Motorway M1 from Leeds to Sheffield had a completely empty lane 1 for three junctions, while everyone bunched up doing 45 in lanes 2 and 3.
I sailed down past them all in lane 1 doing 50 (that was the speed limit).
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Highway Code rule 268:
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
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