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Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - argybargy

Over the last few days I've been involved in the rather curious process of negotiating to buy a car via email. Last weekend I made an enquiry about a car that I saw on an online site, and a salesman from the dealer rang me to discuss the vehicle, after which we commenced a conversation via email. Its a main dealer and the email is genuine, so I'm not dealing with a chap who owns a laptop, lives in a shed in Dar-es-Salaam and who is not interested in selling anything but my bank details.

Over a period of days we negotiated what I thought was a good part ex on my current car and a significantly reduced price on the vehicle being sold, as well as 12 months warranty. Only remaining bugbear (and yes, I knew from the start that I would have to travel, but initially would have been able to get there) is that the garage is 60 miles away and its become apparent over the last few days that I don't really have the time to drive there to see the car.

Today I finally admitted that further discussion was a waste of my time and his because of the distance and I renounced any further interest in the deal.

Is this sort of thing becoming normal? I always imagined that price/ part ex negotiation only ever took place when both parties and vehicles were together in the flesh and the metal.

Edited by argybargy on 11/11/2016 at 09:51

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - daveyjp

I bought my Subaru from a dealer 40 miles away.

The initial contact was via a 'contact us' button on their web site, salesman e-mailed me and we had a few e-mails between us where I gave full details of my part exchange.

He provided me with a part ex price subject to seeing my car which I was happy with.

I then arranged to visit the dealer to see the car, take a test drive etc and a deal was done.

It was much easier than calling a dealer and waiting for calls back as they never happen. Or even worse arriving at the showroom then waiting for sales staff, being questioned about how much you want to pay, waiting for keys to be found, waiting for fuel to be found and then an hour after the test drive to extracate yourself from the place!

I find car showrroms a but like casinos - you know what time you enter, but don't realise until you leave that you have been in there 5 hours, just 30 minutes of which was actually in the car you were interested in!

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - RobJP

I'd actually say that 60 miles isn't too far to go and see a car, if you're really serous about it.

And yes, it makes perfect sense to pre-negotiate if travelling to see a car. Both parties can always change their minds or adjust their wants if cars are not as described. No point in arranging to travel, and then finding out that they aren't willing to move on price, or are offering a ridiculously low part-ex, for example.

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - argybargy

Thanks for the responses.

I suppose negotiation via email does make sense insofar as it removes some of the teeth grinding uncertainty one usually experiences when first arriving at a dealership.

Just struck me as odd that they generously valued my part ex without any reference to "subject to condition", and having been ripped off in the past and tending to err more on the side of caution than I used to, that made me wonder whether the deal was too good to be true.

Edited by argybargy on 11/11/2016 at 17:22

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - RT

Sometimes, maybe often, a distance-negotiated part-exchange value is reduced significantly on examination - relies on the fact that the buyer is under pressure to drive the new car away.

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - madf

The Toyota dealer who sold my son a Yaris two years ago stated they sold half their stock over the internet- sight unseen. Whilst we were there, the other salesman was dealing with such an enquiry.

I bought my Jazz from a dealer in Leeds - 70 miles away. As it was under maker's warranty, there were no problems using the local dealers to fix any problems and service under the 5 year Servise Plan which the prior owner had bought.

(As it turned out, it has been faultless in 4 years)

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - SLO76
I'm a home trader with a focus on sub £3,000 run of the mill cars and I quite frequently sell cars unseen via email like this. Pictures can be sent and a deal struck before the buyer has to uproot and travel. It requires absolute honesty from both parties however. Recently sold a very nice old Ford Cougar to a chap who travelled around 200 miles to pick it up. He was delighted with the car but took a fair bit of convincing that it was as nice as advertised. I've sold a few hackney Peugeot E7's and seen people travel from all over the UK for them, wish I could get a regular supply of good ones. It opens up a wider choice rather than sticking to local dealers.
Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - Galaxy

I bought my current Ford Mondeo online and unseen from a Ford Main Dealer 150 miles away. Negotiated over the telephone and online, with my request for additional information, e.g. the VIN and Registration Numbers numbers, being readily complied with. I didn't have a car to part exchange which did make negotiations a bit more staight-forward. I paid a £250 refundable deposit via credit card and, having made all the necessary arrangements, got a train up to Stoke a couple of days later to see collect the car.

When I arrived and saw the car I couldn't believe how good it looked. After a look-over we went out for a test drive, fortunately there weren't any problems and we returned to the dealership to complete the necessary formalities, including my paying the rest of the balance by debit card.

The salesman informed me that they sell cars by this method all the time in this day and age. Didn't seem unreasonable to me.

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - argybargy

Thanks again. Not such an unusual process as I originally thought, then. The car has now been sold and I'm beginning to regret not having gone to see it, because it did look marvellous in the pictures.

A lesson learned, maybe, not to be quite so suspicious and reticent about accepting a deal on face value as some terrible car buying experiences of the past have made me.

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - expat

A friend of mine is a delivery driver for a main dealer in New South Wales. He was telling me that buying over the internet is normal now and he delivers cars to buyers and picks up the trade ins to take back all the time. Almost all the cars he delivers, the buyer is very pleased. The dealer makes a point of putting lots of photos on the website and is particular about clearly pointing out any faults and showing photos of marks etc.

On the odd occasion when the buyer is not happy he just phones the salesman and is usually told to bring it back.

I wouldn't like to buy a car that way but it seems very common now. It certainly is less hassle than trudging round used car lots.

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - gordonbennet

I made enquiries a few weeks ago about an Amazon Landcruiser via a small dealer 160 miles away, this was over the phone and we agreed a pencilled in cost to change subject to both cars as described, i got there at 10am, the dealer arrived at 10.05, at 10.06 i shoved me mitt through a rear box section of this completely rust free overserviced and waxoyled vehicle, by 10.10 i was on my way home having not even unlocked it nor looked inside or under the bonnet, the waxoyling comprised of the dealer himself (presumably) leaning down under the front bumper and giving one single pass of a waxoyl type aerosol across the front cross member and both wishbones.

Previously i sold my Hilux unseen to a trader from the same town funnily enough, the whole negotiation being undertaken by phone with the good pictures and write up i put on the bay to judge it by, that deal went superbly, he paid for the car long before his driver arrived on the train to collect it, no test drive straight back home.

Distance negotiation makes a lot of sense, but you have to be sensible and not complete the deal untill you've actually inspected the vehicle, the trader who bought my car based his judgement on the seller at the time, i asked him about this and he said in all his years he'd only lost out a couple of times and in the grand scheme of things the saved time more than paid for any losses incurred.

Bought another Landcruiser since, luckily i was the first to see it when it was listed on a Tuesday morn, and bought it within a couple of hours, some vehicles you have to travel for (75 miles this one) and buy immediately when the right one crops up.

Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec 2011 - Negotiation via email - Happy Blue!

I have bought four cars at a distance - the longest being over 250 miles (Worthing to Manchester). One was a mistake as I did not ask enough questions. The other three were as good as expected if not better.

My current E350CDi estate was four years old when I bought it. The (small independent) dealer videoed the car, took lots of photos and emailed them to me. We agreed a price and he drove the car to me (only 50 miles). I paid him via internet banking and took him to the station to go home.