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It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - oldroverboy.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37888207

More revenue for the chancellor?

On the M25, I am no longer surprised to see drivers still going along at 70+mph when the limit is showing at 40 or 50 and a red x indicating a closed lane.

Because people cannot see the "incident" ahead of them they continue.

Higher fines and 3 points 1st time, double fine double points next time and repeat.

France fines here

english.controleradar.org/speeding-fines.php

Second offence speeding by more than 50 km/h (31 mph)

  • Jail (2) : 3 months
  • Fine (2) : 3750 euros
  • License points loss: 6 points
  • License suspension (2) : 3 years
It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - RobJP

Yet I drive down to Surrey for work - M6, M40, M25 - every 2-3 months, have done in my current job for the last 6 years, and haven't managed to get a speeding ticket yet.

I'm torn on 'doubling up' on fines, points, etc. Speeding is one of those where it's easy to be inattentive and drift over the limit, so I don't agree with it. Unlike mobile phone use behind the wheel, which is a deliberate, conscious act.

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - RT

Yet I drive down to Surrey for work - M6, M40, M25 - every 2-3 months, have done in my current job for the last 6 years, and haven't managed to get a speeding ticket yet.

I'm torn on 'doubling up' on fines, points, etc. Speeding is one of those where it's easy to be inattentive and drift over the limit, so I don't agree with it. Unlike mobile phone use behind the wheel, which is a deliberate, conscious act.

I totally agree - whilst I was something of a tearaway in my younger years, the absence of time pressures due to being retired mean that I NEVER intentionally speed, sticking to limits whether cameras present or not - and yet inattention means I've done several speed awareness courses, had a couple of FPNs on my licence and managed to avoid one on a technicality.

It's not easy when you try not to speed - I could never keep my licence if I had work time pressures as well.

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - davecooper
I think you have to make a distinction between a speed limit for an incident and variable speed limits to help traffic flow. Relatively small reductions in traffic speed have been proven to help traffic flow and actually increase average traffic speed.
It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - Sofa Spud

Yet I drive down to Surrey for work - M6, M40, M25 - every 2-3 months, have done in my current job for the last 6 years, and haven't managed to get a speeding ticket yet.

I'm torn on 'doubling up' on fines, points, etc. Speeding is one of those where it's easy to be inattentive and drift over the limit, so I don't agree with it. Unlike mobile phone use behind the wheel, which is a deliberate, conscious act.

If you're driving you should be attentive and therefore aware of what the speed limit is on any stretch of road! What I do wonder about with the smart motorway cameras is what if they reset the limit to a lower onejust before you get to the gantry with the camera? Is there a time lag between the limit on the signs changing and the camera 'booking' people?

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - Mike H

If you're driving you should be attentive and therefore aware of what the speed limit is on any stretch of road!

True in principle, but not always easy.

Last year I managed to pick up a speeding ticket here in Austria where we live. The road we were on for some time went through, or skirted, a number of villages, plus open countryside. Going through the villages is no problem, the law here is as it is France, that is, the town signs mean that the limit is 50km/h unless otherwise indicated. Some stretches of the road were national non-motorway limit of 100km/h, occasionally dropping to 80km/h, for often just a few hundred metres, at junctions, which is also normal practice here. Then, on some of the roads ostensibly in the countryside but probably skirting villages, the limit went to 60km/h for no apparent reason.

Essentially the limit was up and down like the proverbial, and keeping track of whether I was in a 60 or 80 limit was not easy! I happened to miss a beginning of 60km/h and got my photo taken :-(

But unless you are being stupid, there are no points involved here, you just stump up, typically €30-50.

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - daveyjp

Following a reduction in the variable limit there is a 60 second period where the new limit is not enforced.

Just the other week I saw two get caught on the M62.

One overtook me as I was doing 50 - he was obviously playing the 'if I do 55 I won't get caught' game. I noticed he as far too busy on the phone to see the next sign which was 40. As we approached I slowed, he carried on, double flash.

The other was someone travelling on the other carriageway in the roadworks near Rochdale.

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - Bolt

Because people cannot see the "incident" ahead of them they continue

there have been times where the X has been on several junctions on M25 but nothing is there, so can only assume someone forgets to turn X off

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - concrete

I agree with davecooper on the traffic speed/flow regulation, it does help when the road is busy. Also, like bolt, I regularly observe the overhead gantry signs flashing information which often turns out to be at best out of date or plainly inaccurate. It is no wonder that motorists who regularly use a stretch of motorway where this happens, then ignore the signs. Someone at the Highway Agency or DfT needs to get a grip of this and ensure that information displayed is accurate and up to date and therefore reliable, then we could have some faith in it. As it stands I don't blame motorists for treating these 'warnings' lightly. If the system worked both ways, and the lazy operatives who cannot be bothered to update the information displayed got fined and points on their driving licence I suspect we would see a much better service. Well comrades, come the revolution!!

Cheers Concrete

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - oldroverboy.

Well comrades, come the revolution!!

ditto

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - Gibbo_Wirral

I'd be interested to know how many tickets are due to the cameras snapping speeders at 85mph+ when there are no variable limits.

I've seen people flashed on the M62 in the late evening when its quiet and they're belting along.

It's a FINE! - Speeding tickets on smart motorways - Happy Blue!

Just driven 675 miles in two days up and down England and Wales, mostly on motorways, with several sections with variable and average speed limits. All I would say is that in a car with a speed limiter it is easy. Just set the limiter at say 2mph over the limit and drive with your foot firmly pressed. Economy is great, you won't get booked, nor get in the way of people behind.

I do see some people drive at well over the posted limit and wonder what planet they are on. I can understand on a dry, quiet stretch of road with no obvious cameras, but in a section patrolled by average speed cameras, it makes no sense at all.