Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service History, should I avoid?

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Mon 24 Oct 2016 23:34
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service History, should I avoid? - Serial Car Changer

So I've seen a 5 year old 5008 for under £8k and 54k miles but it has no accompanying service history. It's had a dent to the rear passenger door that the garage is sorting. MOT Hostory checks out ok. Should I be worried at the no service history?

Edited by Avant on 25/10/2016 at 22:45

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Mon 24 Oct 2016 23:52
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service Hostory, should I avoid? - SLO76
Don't buy a car without a full service history! These are complex pieces of equipment which require regular maintenance. All cars require oil and filter once a year... walk away from anything that hasn't proof of this, if it's a diesel then run don't walk. Unless of course you're talking about sub £1k bangers here. There are plenty of well maintained cars out there, wait til you find one.

Edited by SLO76 on 24/10/2016 at 23:58

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Tue 25 Oct 2016 06:22
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service Hostory, should I avoid? - Maxime.
So I've seen a 5 year old 5008 for under £8k and 54k miles but it has no accompanying service history. It's had a dent to the rear passenger door that the garage is sorting. MOT Hostory checks out ok. Should I be worried at the no service history?

The short answer is be very worried. Google "peugot 5008 problems" 1.6 hdi and then run away. No warranty will cover you for exixting faults, and an aftermarket warranty will be so much expensive toilet paper.

If you feel like taking £8000 and burning it, it is the obvious thing to do.

If you buy it do we expect you to be on here soon asking for help?

There are lots of cars with service history available. Get one of them.

Sorry if this is not the reply you are expecting!

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Tue 25 Oct 2016 07:22
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service Hostory, should I avoid? - gordonbennet

Have you tried chatting up an approachable Pug dealer service advisor, ask them if the car has any history on their system, obviously if its a local car then there is more chance of it being known.

Not many owners with an ounce of common will neglect the first services whilst still under warranty.

However, as above, if its got the 1.6 Diesel of Doom fitted, then it needs better than the maker's idea of engine servicing, and i would only consider one at a price that accounted for a new complete engine.

Edited by gordonbennet on 25/10/2016 at 07:23

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Tue 25 Oct 2016 08:57
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service Hostory, should I avoid? - Serial Car Changer
Thanks guys
It is at least the 2L manual engine, I've heard all about the 1.6 and the EGC probs!
I googled how to find iut service history but it seems I'd need the VIN. The vehicle is at a well known National dealer which is why I thought it should be fairly trustworthy. It isn't at all local but that's never worried me.
Guess I should keep looking, which is kinda what I expected the advice to be tbf!
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Tue 25 Oct 2016 09:58
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service Hostory, should I avoid? - SLO76
Thanks guys It is at least the 2L manual engine, I've heard all about the 1.6 and the EGC probs! I googled how to find iut service history but it seems I'd need the VIN. The vehicle is at a well known National dealer which is why I thought it should be fairly trustworthy. It isn't at all local but that's never worried me. Guess I should keep looking, which is kinda what I expected the advice to be tbf!

It's premature turbo failure that's the greatest fear on this engine and all too often the blades break up leaving metal fragments which are ingested by the engine thus destroying it. Loads of cases on forums and I've seen several myself including a co worker with a Peugeot van that needed a new engine at less than 60,000 miles and a taxi driving neighbour with another at less than 80k. They also suffer all the other typical modern turbo diesel maladies on top of this. Best avoiding any model with this fitted never mind one that's not been serviced right. Again as advised the last time I'd avoid the diesels and buy a nice low mileage petrol model. They're hard work to sell on and will be a bit gutless but you'll not have the fear of death hanging over your bank account every time you turn the keys.
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Tue 25 Oct 2016 14:37
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service Hostory, should I avoid? - sandy56

AVOID AVOID AVOID.

Dont go there!

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Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:22
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service Hostory, should I avoid? - gordonbennet

I got thinking about this today whilst out driving, my biggest worry about such a car with no history at all would be that its been mini cabbed or similar and clocked back to next to no mileage before its first MOT, if they self serviced there would be no record of this, official or not, until it went in for its first MOT.

Oh and OP don't forget to check the previous MOT's on the gov website, if its one owner and say for example showing 60k miles at 5 years, you then look on the MOT check site and find its covered 25k miles in year 4 and another 25k in year 5...see what i'm getting at? its a very handy site.

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Tue 25 Oct 2016 23:00
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service History, should I avoid? - Avant

Loking back at your previous thread, I can see why you're keen on the 5008 but I still think there are better buys out there. And of course, don't touch ANY car without a service history.

Think about these three:

Toyota Verso - likely to be reliable although the rearmost seats are only for children

Ford S-Max - bigger than the Verso and usually well thought of by owners. Most will be diesels, so no good if your mileage is mainly short journeys. If it's mainly longer trips, this would be my choice.

Ford Galaxy / SEAT Alhambra - very similar and even bigger, but worth considering if you need 7 seats and luggage space as well with all seats occupied.

I don't know much about the Nissan X-Trail or Hyundai Santa Fe but both can have seven seats.

Edited by Avant on 26/10/2016 at 00:16

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Thu 27 Oct 2016 23:29
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service History, should I avoid? - Serial Car Changer
Seems I initially spoke with a rookie salesman; I've now learned there is full SH and have photographic evidence of it! I fancy the 5008 due to the space, visibility, fair road tax bracket on the diesel and good MPG. I have considered the Ford Galaxy but the tax is higher and they're not as well equipped. I'd love a Discovery or an Xtrail but again the running costs are high. I do need 7 seats at times.
I won't have a petrol after having diesels for my last few cars and my personal car that I'm keeping; (BMW MSport 120D Convertible).
I would have an Auto but only on a 2L and only a fully automatic not the optional version.
Currently the 2011 5008 is the front runner.
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Fri 28 Oct 2016 00:40
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service History, should I avoid? - SLO76
You sure are determined to get one of these. Sadly you won't find anyone on here that knows about these cars who'll recommend what you're after so if you really want one you'll just have to take your chances. Buy only with a full main dealer history and watch for cars that've had lots of short term owners, usually indicates a troublesome motor. Very common on high spec French cars I'm afraid.

The 5008 is a comfy big bus but prone to plenty of problems and the more complex and higher the spec the more troublesome they get. From headlamp bulbs only a garage can change, turbo failure, electronic parking brake faults, leaking door seals, DPF and DMF problems and a terrible automated manual EGC gearbox on some models they're a possible money pit on wheels.

Even the full auto on the 2.0 doesn't have a great reputation being based on the same box from earlier 607/407 which is unlikely to last much past 80k without costly issues.

Best of luck and as they say.. fortune favours the bold.
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Fri 28 Oct 2016 13:42
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service History, should I avoid? - pd
Even the full auto on the 2.0 doesn't have a great reputation being based on the same box from earlier 607/407 which is unlikely to last much past 80k without costly issues. Best of luck and as they say.. fortune favours the bold.

AFAIK it doesn't, but uses the TF80 (or AM6 in PSA speak) 6-speed torque convertor box. Used in loads of cars - Fords, Vauxhalls, Saab, Volvo etc.

The basic engine/drivetrain is pretty much the same as you'll find in endless PSA models, Ford Mondeo & Focus, Volvo V50/S40/V70/S80 and others of various years so is a known quantity.

Not a briliant car - it is basically a C4 Picasso - but OK for what it does. The later 1.6 models are usually OK - it is the early 16v ones which can have turbo issue. I'd agree on avoiding the EGS gearbox.

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Fri 28 Oct 2016 14:13
Peugeot 5008 - 54K with no Service History, should I avoid? - SLO76

AFAIK it doesn't, but uses the TF80 (or AM6 in PSA speak) 6-speed torque convertor box. Used in loads of cars - Fords, Vauxhalls, Saab, Volvo etc.

The basic engine/drivetrain is pretty much the same as you'll find in endless PSA models, Ford Mondeo & Focus, Volvo V50/S40/V70/S80 and others of various years so is a known quantity.

Not a briliant car - it is basically a C4 Picasso - but OK for what it does. The later 1.6 models are usually OK - it is the early 16v ones which can have turbo issue. I'd agree on avoiding the EGS gearbox.

Apologies, you're right enough. It does indeed use the TF80 box which should be ok but problems aren't unheard of it's no worse than any other. The 5008 is still well known for plenty of other issues. As for whether they've fixed the 1.6 HDi, the jury is still out on that one. Hopefully they have but I'd still be avoiding it. The 2.0 is fine if looked after but not as robust as the older 8v HDI units. The non-turbo petrol cars are (engine wise) largely vice free.
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