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bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

hi new to the forum after bit of advice,ive just bought a bmw 320d privately and ran great for last 2 weeks, but now it struggles to start but when running its like new,i took it to local garage and the machine came back as three glow plugs gone so replaced the 4 of them and today went to start it and same,but on third attempt it started and like before runs great,any adivce please

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - RobJP

Has the fuel filter been changed at any point ?

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

hi its in today to have a service and have the filters changed to see if that helps and yes when cranking over it does it very fast,thankyou for all the help

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - liammcl

my old peugeout 106 diesel peugeot did that
it was the shims that go above the tappets
(kinda look like big 10p discs)

dunno if yours even has them ?...

It was the valve clearances
when warm, no problems,
but a lot of turnovers when cold, to get it started.

Cheers
Liam
ps www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116...0

Edited by liammcl on 09/10/2016 at 20:56

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - elekie&a/c doctor

These do not need glow plugs to start unless outside temp is below approx 5 degrees.Does the engine crank over fast enough and is the battery up to spec.?

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

the lad i bought it of really looked after it but can they be checked to see if faulty and when it does start its slugish for about 10 seconds but once i rev it its like i said like new

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

i dont think it could be that as even when ive been out for a drive and come back could be 5 mins maybe bit longer and still does the same but thankyou for the advice

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - madf

You need to get fault codes read. And battery tested. And fuel pressure chacked. And various sensors checked they are working.

Not a job for an average clueless garage.

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - pd

If it starts fine when warm but not when cold and gets worse the colder the weather gets then I'd probably start with the injectors.

Get a leakback test done on them. If they are leaking back fuel in excess quantities when cold the fuel pressure never builds to a sufficient level on the fuel rail for the cars's ECU to tell it to fire up.

Guessing it is a M47 engine which this isn't unkown on.

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

will BMW do this when it goes in for them to inspect it cheers

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

i know, its been in for service starts a bit better but is shoving loads of smoke out the back now and seems sluggish,ive booked it in with bmw on wednesday as even though my local garage isnt bad i feel they havent a clue whats going on here

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - sandy56

Try a BOSCH service centre, a lot cheaper than BMW and some of their Techs ae excellent.

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

its in at BMW now thanks as it took at least an hour of trying to start it then the battery going flat then having to tow it to bump it,havent a clue but doesnt look good what ever it is

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

well had the first diagnostic check and nothing showed so they have to strip the injectors and high pressure pump and do another which is another £300 ,could be a lot of money this only had it 3 weeks of a lad aswell

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - pd

Did they actually test the injectors? If it is the injectors it is usually only 1 or 2 which are bad.

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - octyal

Have they checked the timing chain tensioners? The 320d are known to have issues with the chains, which could be causing your problems.

What maybe happening, is that as the car is left, the oil is running out of the hydraulic chain tensioner, causing a slack chain. When you come to start it, the oil pressure needs to build back up, before the tensioner tightens the chain enough, this can lead to the timing between cam and crank being wrong, hence the non start.

Certainly worth a look. Bad news though, the chain is down the back of the engine, so it needs to come out to be done, so also budget on a new clutch and DMF (especially if close to, or over 100k miles). If it has a full BMW history, and under 100k on the clock, you may be lucky and get some goodwill from BMW (although not very likely from what i am led to believe)

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

its got the full serivec history on it but they havent mentioned anything about the timing chain,its upto £2700 now and still not sorted

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

they had them sent of to be reconned but they phoned today to say the company who does them said there to conrtaminated so its best to buy the bosch ones which are 600 for the 4 new ones,im starting to think they dont have a clue,thanks for all the adivce and help

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - liammcl

I wish you well, Ronnie and good luck ...what a nightmare, so far !

Could something have been added to the tank?
an additive or so,

How much diesel is in it?
& how many miles has it done since you've had it?

just thinking outside the box....as it seems awful weird !

I hope you find the cause real soon !

Cheers
Liam

Edited by liammcl on 20/10/2016 at 03:56

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

hi liam it was a full tank and ive only done about 100 miles in it,and i never put anything in the tank so if its been in it was the last owner,and thankyou very much there phoning later today,as there putting new injectors in today so im praying its sorted as its a lovely car and not a mark on it,but got a a feeling it will have to go

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - ronnie holmes

well just a quick update and car still at BMW and there waiting on on new injectors, which has bee nearly a week now, surely it doesnt take this long for them to be delivered

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - liammcl

cheers for the update Ronnie,
let's hope that's the end to the problems !
Liam

bmw 320d m sport - struggles to start runs great when started - liammcl

No news, is good news... I hope !