In London, drivers don't have to pay congestion charge (£10), if they happen to have an electric car. Many more City centres will be looking at similar schemes to reduce pollution.
I recall Councils have a duty to provide electric charging points.
Battery chems, are getting better all the time. Once they fix the energy storage issue, I suspect it may be the end of the combustion engine.
If someone has a solar panels, they get their energy for free.
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In London, drivers don't have to pay congestion charge (£10), if they happen to have an electric car. Many more City centres will be looking at similar schemes to reduce pollution.
I recall Councils have a duty to provide electric charging points.
Battery chems, are getting better all the time. Once they fix the energy storage issue, I suspect it may be the end of the combustion engine.
If someone has a solar panels, they get their energy for free.
LCC is £11.50 now, but the free for all electric cars may be changing soon,rumour has it Hybrids may also be charged....
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They should really decide whether it's a congestion tax or a pollution tax.
Teslas and Priuses don't disappear in traffic, although the battery life will if you want to stay warm on a cold day.
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They should really decide whether it's a congestion tax or a pollution tax. Teslas and Priuses don't disappear in traffic, although the battery life will if you want to stay warm on a cold day.
As far as I`m concerned its a tax, as it has done nothing to reduce pollution as was hoped for, in fact latest report shows it has increased which was expected.
Mayor also wants to extend congestion charge as did the last idiot
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Quite a few of the nissan leaf are advertised as having a leased battery. Looking at the cost of this, you can pay anything from £70 a month upwards depending on the mileage and lease length.This is around the same as I spend on fuel per month at the moment.
The expected battery life is around 8 to 10 years according to the experts, then the cost of a new pack is around £5k. I know that charging at home is very cheap, but cost of a fast charge can be as much as £6 a time, unless I was to drive in London regularly, I'm not sure where the savings come from compared to a normal car.
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I'd be more concerned about charging facilities, including at home as demand grows and the govt of the day realises it has gained fantastic stealth power over the public.
Its bad enough at the petrol pumps at busy times, when the average car is there for 5 mins or less, i suspect charging several million leccy cars daily in journeys will be a fraught experience, wonder how the MSA's will cope with their 2 to 4 charging points occupied for an hour or more on a Friday afternoon heading away from the cities.
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I'd be more concerned about charging facilities, including at home as demand grows and the govt of the day realises it has gained fantastic stealth power over the public.
Its bad enough at the petrol pumps at busy times, when the average car is there for 5 mins or less, i suspect charging several million leccy cars daily in journeys will be a fraught experience, wonder how the MSA's will cope with their 2 to 4 charging points occupied for an hour or more on a Friday afternoon heading away from the cities.
Exactly this. I have posted before about seeing a Tesla having to queue for one of the three charging points at the Northbound Warwick Services on the M40. Occupying the 3 charging bays were a Prius plug-in, a BMW i3 (both plugged in) and ... a normal non-plugin Prius. Presumably the driver of the latter thought it was a special 'hybrid parking' zone :-)
When I left 20 minutes later after having a coffee, the Tesla was STILL queuing with the driver at the wheel.
This highlighted to me the uselessness of an electric vehicle that has no range extender option, no matter what guff Elon Musk spouts about building charging infrastructures etc.
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Maybe the large Supermarkets could be persuaded to install charging points in parking spaces, it could increase custom while they wait, there are enough about and spend enough in store to get electric free(assuming its not already)
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Maybe the large Supermarkets could be persuaded to install charging points in parking spaces, it could increase custom while they wait, there are enough about and spend enough in store to get electric free(assuming its not already)
I think this is the case now with new supermarkets. I've seen two new ones built, with three charging bays. I've never seem them occupied though.
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I'd be more concerned about charging facilities, including at home as demand grows and the govt of the day realises it has gained fantastic stealth power over the public.
Its bad enough at the petrol pumps at busy times, when the average car is there for 5 mins or less, i suspect charging several million leccy cars daily in journeys will be a fraught experience, wonder how the MSA's will cope with their 2 to 4 charging points occupied for an hour or more on a Friday afternoon heading away from the cities.
If electric cars become common place, teh electricity distribution system will be incapable of dealing with the load of lots of cars tring to recharge all at once..Subststions and wiring will have to be upgraded. Then the generating stations will have limited capcity at peak times.
There will be effectivley rationing at times unless £billions of investment.
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I'd be more concerned about charging facilities, including at home as demand grows and the govt of the day realises it has gained fantastic stealth power over the public.
Its bad enough at the petrol pumps at busy times, when the average car is there for 5 mins or less, i suspect charging several million leccy cars daily in journeys will be a fraught experience, wonder how the MSA's will cope with their 2 to 4 charging points occupied for an hour or more on a Friday afternoon heading away from the cities.
If electric cars become common place, teh electricity distribution system will be incapable of dealing with the load of lots of cars tring to recharge all at once..Subststions and wiring will have to be upgraded. Then the generating stations will have limited capcity at peak times.
There will be effectivley rationing at times unless £billions of investment.
I agree, so we need more nuclear power stations, even to persuade people to buy electric untill someone comes up with a quick way to charge these cars.
though I still cannot imagine charging stations outside peoples houses (excluding those with driveways and garages that is) maybe built into lamp posts eh
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They should really decide whether it's a congestion tax or a pollution tax.
They seem to be going for BOTH, currently London has the Congestion Zone, but electric cars and low emmions cars dont' pay to enter the city centre.
But they also want to introduce the Low Emmision Zone, which will apply to not only City Centre, but also extend to the North & South Circular (there was a consultation, so I don't know what was decided). But
tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone
What is the ULEZ?
From September 2020, all cars, motorcycles, vans, minibuses, buses, coaches and heavy goods vehicles (HGVs) will need to meet exhaust emission standards (ULEZ standards), or pay a daily charge, when travelling in central London.
The ULEZ standards are in addition to any Congestion Charge or Low Emission Zone (LEZ) charges already applied. The area covered by the ULEZ is the same as the current Congestion Charge Zone (CCZ). It will operate 24 hours a day, every day of the year, including weekends and public holidays.
The ULEZ will cover the same area as the Congestion Charge zone, which is identifiable by road signs showing where it applies. There will be no barriers or toll booths. Cameras will read vehicle number plates as they are driven within the zone to check against our database.*
Source:
tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone#o...4
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