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Car Amplifier Advice. - Charles Nolan

Hi folks. My son has asked for a car amplifier for his birthday. Never needed on myself so I wouldn't have a clue what to look for or what is best to buy. I've been using a classified ads comparison website to see what different brands and models are for sale online here in the Rep of Ireland (www.for-sale.ie/car-amplifier) but I'm still none the wiser really. I know that there is always Halfords but I'd rather use a dealer specialised in audio rather than a general motoring retailer. Can anybody make any recommendations? Alpine and Pioneer seem to be popular brands but I am sure that there are many more out there. Does anybody have a good experience of a particular product you would care to share or recommend? Pros and cons? Any help or advice would be greatly a appreciated.

Car Amplifier Advice. - tourantass
Hi. I personaly wouldnt be encouraging him to have anything that will allow him play music any louder than an already loud enough standard car stereo, apart from the obvious dangers of bieng distracted while driving he may well end up with tinnitus & hearing loss ( I would not wish my tinnitus on my worst enemy)
Car Amplifier Advice. - gordonbennet

I'm not that much into car music but have dabbled a little.

Is he looking for bass? if its just just a general improvement over the often poor radios car makers put in, then replacing existing head unit with say a Pioneer 4 x50w RMS per channel will see a massive difference, however once fitted you might find the standard speakers can't cope, so you get into swapping those out too.

The amps you link to are mainly for providing power to a sub woofer, not only do you need the amp you also need the heavy speaker in its heavy and substantial box, by the time you've wired (direct feed from battery to amp/speaker, and signal wriring from head unit to speaker) and fitted the amp half or more of his boot will have vanished.

Active subs come with a built in amplifier and thse are the easiest to swap about IMHO, various makes, i had a fairly cheap and cheerful but really quite decent Fli Trap which is a reasonably compact 1000w active sub in my W124 Merc (that model MB comes with stupidly small fitted speakers so to get any decent bass without chopping the interior up a sub was the best bet for me.

Anyway, if he wants to keep the boot as a boot then Pioneer make a quite decent active sub that fits under the seat in most cars, obviously it isn't going to shake the foundations like a 2000w twin 15" speakered remote amped jobbie is.

Daughters Aygo came with a poor standard head unit and hopeless speakers as standard, could barely be heard over the road noise, for her birthday several years ago i swapped out the head unit for a Sony 4 x50w, swapped out the spectacularly awful speakers for Alpines (tried the standards with the Sony unit, oh dear) and fitted one of those Pioneer under seat active subs under the passenger seat, the results were excellent they are really pleased and left the already small boot intact.

All depends what your lad wants to achieve, there's loads of decent info online and you don't need spend a fortune to get good quality sounds, however being a young man with probable peer pressure to conform (and like it or not thats a big influence these days on many people of all ages) there might be certain makes and labels only to choose from..:-)

Don't know if that waffle helps at all.

As for makes, i've had good results and reliable service from Pioneer products for many years now.

Whilst high street shops might be good for info etc, they charge well over the odds for wiring and fascia adaptors etc, so read up compile your requirements and do some shopping about, you can easily save more than 50% doing so.

Edited by gordonbennet on 22/08/2016 at 10:58

Car Amplifier Advice. - Bolt

I'm not that much into car music but have dabbled a little.

Is he looking for bass? if its just just a general improvement over the often poor radios car makers put in, then replacing existing head unit with say a Pioneer 4 x50w RMS per channel will see a massive difference, however once fitted you might find the standard speakers can't cope, so you get into swapping those out too.

The amps you link to are mainly for providing power to a sub woofer, not only do you need the amp you also need the heavy speaker in its heavy and substantial box, by the time you've wired (direct feed from battery to amp/speaker, and signal wriring from head unit to speaker) and fitted the amp half or more of his boot will have vanished.

Active subs come with a built in amplifier and thse are the easiest to swap about IMHO, various makes, i had a fairly cheap and cheerful but really quite decent Fli Trap which is a reasonably compact 1000w active sub in my W124 Merc (that model MB comes with stupidly small fitted speakers so to get any decent bass without chopping the interior up a sub was the best bet for me.

Anyway, if he wants to keep the boot as a boot then Pioneer make a quite decent active sub that fits under the seat in most cars, obviously it isn't going to shake the foundations like a 2000w twin 15" speakered remote amped jobbie is.

Daughters Aygo came with a poor standard head unit and hopeless speakers as standard, could barely be heard over the road noise, for her birthday several years ago i swapped out the head unit for a Sony 4 x50w, swapped out the spectacularly awful speakers for Alpines (tried the standards with the Sony unit, oh dear) and fitted one of those Pioneer under seat active subs under the passenger seat, the results were excellent they are really pleased and left the already small boot intact.

All depends what your lad wants to achieve, there's loads of decent info online and you don't need spend a fortune to get good quality sounds, however being a young man with probable peer pressure to conform (and like it or not thats a big influence these days on many people of all ages) there might be certain makes and labels only to choose from..:-)

Don't know if that waffle helps at all.

As for makes, i've had good results and reliable service from Pioneer products for many years now.

Whilst high street shops might be good for info etc, they charge well over the odds for wiring and fascia adaptors etc, so read up compile your requirements and do some shopping about, you can easily save more than 50% doing so.

As GB said apart from mentioning RMS output, some units, ie, speakers and amps mention outputs as peak music output which is misleading so wherever possible look for rms, ie could be 50 watts rms which is better than 50 watts music power or pmpo as some put it, but the rms is more powerfull and cleaner sound usually. I hope I havent confused..

Car Amplifier Advice. - slkfanboy

I have been this route with my current ford. I have installed a new head unit and speakers.

While it sound very scary, it's not. Depending on budget. The top brands do very good amps/head unit and the results stunning. Best option depend on the car you have and I would get recommendations.

IMHO i would replace the head unit first. This would require the head unit and a facia panel and a wire kit for your car. You can go with brand names and they all are good units but expensive. My speakers came from a UK company BASS FACE but other companies like lepy do good kit also.

The issue with a amp only solution is it requires the standard car audio system to drive the amp. which is not such a good solution.

Car Amplifier Advice. - galileo

The good thing about loud music from cars is that, like loud exhausts, other drivers can hear the noise-maker coming. The bad thing is that the noisemaker cannot hear anyone else coming.

HJ

The thing that puzzles me is why, as they want so much volume, they always have the windows open so the sound leaks out to annoy everyone else.

Sure sign of a driver to avoid, often wearing baseball cap, using mobile phone , aggressively thrashing their puny steed in an attempt to pass everything else.

(A lot of these aren't even playing music, it's usually this awful "rap")

Edited by galileo on 22/08/2016 at 13:52

Car Amplifier Advice. - Bolt

(A lot of these aren't even playing music, it's usually this awful "rap")

Dont know how you can tell, its usually so loud and distorted it could be anything

some of it is competition between mates, who has the loudest/noisiest sounds in the car, including who can screem the engine the loudest

Car Amplifier Advice. - slkfanboy

Well at least they are not playing with their phone!

Car Amplifier Advice. - Ethan Edwards

Rap or that loathsome Drum n Ba rs e.

Truly music achieved perfection well before Generation Snowflake got involved.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 23/08/2016 at 14:47

Car Amplifier Advice. - oldroverboy.

Truly music achieved perfection well before Generation Snowflake got involved.

And there was me a while back singing the solo and the chorus at the end of Mahler's second symphony while listening to it in a jam on the A12 the other day... and getting some very odd looks..

From the verse O glaube mein herz oh glaube to the end.

Just beats Born to run and Bat out of hell.

Edited by oldroverboy. on 23/08/2016 at 15:42