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Ofgem - FoxyJukebox

i note from my latest energy bill that Ofgem have stipulated a new rule whereby if an On Line Dual Fuel bill is in credit , a customer is refunded. That might be fine for some--but what about the old rule of bulding up your "credit" of lower summer use--to equalise the higher winter bill?

So what does this mean in bill terms ?-I had a £305 refund from npower combined with a rise in my monthly bill from £105 to £155.

Daft I call that!

Ofgem - RaineMan

Sadly most regulators seem, to be next to useless. In your situation you want to budget and manage your finances but are bing prevented in doing this with regard to energy. I recently contacted the communications regulator about the ever increasing number of spam calls (accidents, PPI claims, fliestyle reviews, life insurance, etc.) and the core of the response was to contact the police if a crime had been committed. Yet these people are are blight on many peoples day-to-day lives. About a year ago I contacted the Pensions Advisory Service about an issue in my state pension forecast that I cannot get resolved to be told they only deal with private pensions!

Ofgem - FP

I've been dealing with this problem and have had a fight with the company concerned (no automatic refund, by the way). I got the refund, but have been unable to prevent what is in fact a fairly modest d/d increase. My argument is that if the d/d is set so high that a large credit builds up in summer, it's probably not far out for winter, and if it is too low, then, and only then, should it go up.

All one can do is keep checking the account and demand the refund whenever it's substantially in credit.

Ofgem - concrete

This not a new problem regarding the direct debit monthly payments. Although the new guidelines do affect the summer/winter imbalance in fuel useage. Years ago when the monthly dd payment became the wise choice I monitored fuel consumption and the annual total cost, then I usually reduced the direct debit accordingly. Of course the energy companies did not want to do this but I insisted. Then randomly they would write and state they were increasing the dd. I then used to write back and flatly refuse my permisssion to increase the dd. They always backed down. Whenever there was a credit after a full year I would write and instruct them to repay it immediately, they always did. So you can keep control if you are so minded. All you need is a good idea of your annual usage divided by 12 and don't accept all the bare faced lies they will tell you about their paymeny collection and refund systems. Just insist having YOUR money back.

Cheers Concrete

Ofgem - gordonbennet

I think to be fair that most of us on this site are unlikely to be the problem payers or those prone to vanish into thin air from rented housing after using many hundreds of units of power during a cold winter.

Understandable that the power supplier would want a few quid, or even a few hundred in credit given the sheer number of fly by nights and assorted nonpayers thay must have to deal with regularly.

I did get a large credit back payment from Zog Energy whom we get gas from, one i didn't ask for nor expected, our new combi boiler has proved ridiculously cheap to run since installation so i requested a lower DD in order to equalise the growing credit, they did so without question and returned all but about £50 of the credit overnight.

Luckily our electricity supplier, Robin Hood Energy is a monthly actual usage bill paid by DD, thats working very well so no credit build up possible.

Never been so relaxed about power suppliers since we've moved away from the big 6, never again either.

Ofgem - concrete

I agree gordonbennet, I am with a small provider and the rates are excellent. Flowenergy is also very approachable and friendly and do as I request regarding the dd payments.

Small is beautiful.

Cheers Concrete

Ofgem - tourantass
I find it amazing that power companies and "switch" companies can, when coming up to renewel send me a statement sayin save £400 by switching to a new tariff....what this actually means is...it wont be £400 cheaper than what you paid this year, it will be £400 cheaper than if you dont switch to a cheaper tarriff as you will be put on our standard tarif........I actually went through all the comparison sites and I will actually be paying £50 more (for same usage) than I have this year even on the cheapest deal........so you can imagine how many people will potentionaly be "conned / confused by this.