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Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Deft

I'm currently driving a 2010 VW Scirocco 170TDI (55,000 on the clock) and am mulling trading it in for a new small car - as it's now our "second" car and not very family friendly compared to my wife's Golf (baby number 2 on the way). I'm only using it for the odd commute etc. - probably only 6,000 a year if that (and not as many long journeys as I used to, so worried about DPF or EGR problems creeping in).

I'm torn between going with something (hopefully) reliable and I suppose fairly dull (was thinking Toyota Yaris Hybrid) or something a bit different with a kick to it (e.g. DS3). Is there a perfect small car which is either known as reliable or with a long warranty, but can be specced with a quickish petrol engine (e.g. 0-60 in < 8-9 secs). I'm trying to avoid VAG cars generally, and wife refuses Mercs for some reason. Also not too keen on overt boy racer type features! Budget < £20K if possible.

Thanks

Edited by Deft on 03/03/2016 at 19:31

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - 72 dudes

I would say forget the 0-60 figures. You'd be better looking at in gear acceleration like 30-70 through the gears or even 30-50 in 4th.

In your shoes I'd be looking at the latest petrol turbos, but probably avoiding the very small 3 cylinder ones.

The DS3 did come with the option of the 156 BHP 1.6 litre engine which was also used in the previous Mini Cooper, but is not known to be a "driver's car".Take a look at the new Mini Cooper with the 1.5L engine, or possibly a low level BMW 1 series.

At the other end of scale you have dull. The Yaris Hybrid would be a good safe choice.

A Kia C'eed can be had in GT petrol guise and has a 7 year warranty, but it's around £22k IIRC.

Maybe have a look at a Nissan Pulsar with the 1.2 turbo engine.

Or a Juke with the 1.6 turbo engine?

Lots of choice out there so go and have fun, but don't get hung up on 0-60 times, it's flexibility that counts!

Edited by 72 dudes on 03/03/2016 at 21:10

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - alan1302

I would say forget the 0-60 figures. You'd be better looking at in gear acceleration like 30-70 through the gears or even 30-50 in 4th.

Do you/anyone else know anywhere that'a good resource to get information like that?

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - 72 dudes

I would say forget the 0-60 figures. You'd be better looking at in gear acceleration like 30-70 through the gears or even 30-50 in 4th.

Do you/anyone else know anywhere that'a good resource to get information like that?

What Car? road tests (at least the printed versions) always have these figures. Also try Autocar and Auto Express.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Happy Blue!

I agree with 72dudes but would say the DS3 is an interesting car and has the availability of a cabriolet version plus a variety of engines.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Deft

Thanks, some food for thought. I see the DS3 has a new 210 THP S&S engine and the Pulsar also has a new 190PS 1.6 - both interesting.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Bianconeri
Very simply, a VERY GOOD car, extremely comfortable and nice to drive. Very well built and finished too.

The THP engine has come as 150, 155, and 165 bhp variants plus the 200 ( ish) bhp Racing. This is essentially the same engine as the old Cooper S and has masses of in gear power.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Avant

My choice would be the Audi A3 or SEAT Leon with the 1.4 TSI engine and manual transmission - a terrific engine, lively and yet economical, which is well worth a look.

But if you're resolved to avoid VAG models, all Ford Fiestas can be had for under £20k, including the ST, although you might find the 1.0 lively enough in the 125 or 140 bhp version.

Or there's the Suzuki Swift, often forgotten when drawing up a shortlist. Or a nearly-new BMW 1-series.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - scot22

I would be very interested if anyone can say where you can find details (in simple terms !) of acceleration between gears.

I am obsessive about anything which give a potential increase in safety, even marginal, and obviously speed in overtaking is something significant.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - slkfanboy

While I love the look of the DS3 thats really where it ends, I'd get the real thing the Mini which inside is the real deal and yes same engines pritty much. And yes the in gear feagures are good.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Wackyracer

The Citroen DS3 has got the option of the Puretech engine in a few versions. While I'm not that keen on 3 cylinder engines, I have to admit the technology behind this engine is very impressive and it might be a better unit to choose over the older units on offer when considering fuel economy v performance.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - brum

Apparently DS3's are driven mainly by 94 year old american style gurus who don't care about what other people think ( about her poor eyesight, lack of taste and reckless driving)

The TV advert automatically rules out that car for me.

Edited by brum on 04/03/2016 at 12:25

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Deft

Yeah my wife's Golf is a 1.4 TSI with DSG box and is pretty fun. That's roughly why I had benchmarked 0-60 in 8-9 secs as that's about the same as our Scirocco and Golf currently and that feels about right without going blistering sub 6s kind of speed!

I have to admit I'd subconsciously ruled out a Mini. That (iconic) look doesn't do much for me I'm afraid, and I'm basing at least some of my decision on looks I suppose. I might spec a few out and see what they look like. So a DS3 is a poor man's Mini?

Fiesta ST did cross my mind as well.

Thanks everyone for the thoughts so far.

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - bazza

The stand-out car for me is the Swift Sport, although I've yet to drive one but by all accounts, its simple design and non-turbo petrol replicates an 80s/90s hot hatch very well. If I could force myself to spend more than a couple of grand on a car, it would probably be my choice!

Citroen DS3 - New small car - shortlist help - Wackyracer

The stand-out car for me is the Swift Sport, although I've yet to drive one but by all accounts, its simple design and non-turbo petrol replicates an 80s/90s hot hatch very well. If I could force myself to spend more than a couple of grand on a car, it would probably be my choice!

I don't like the look of it, it's plain rather than ornate.