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Edited by Dynamic Dave on 09/01/2010 at 00:27
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I would suggest buying a bottle of 1001 carpet cleaner. I think it's described as being suitable for large areas, and may previously been known as 1001 Dry Foam.
A little effort is required with a lint-free cloth or a sponge - although I prefer to use a brush - but it does a good job for very little outlay.
I've not experienced any shrinkage with this method, and carpet cleaning is something I have to do quite often.
Clk Sec
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and it's less than half a crown!! :-)
JH
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all together now....
# do the shake and vac and bring the freshness back #
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..do the shake and vac...
He's only been retired a day and he's already regressing to daytime TV.
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Silly Question time.
Friend has Sony LCD TV with integrated freeview and connected to this she has one of those combined VCR/DVDs. (she has a 6 year old boy who still has some Videos he watches)
Thinking of also getting a hard disc Freeview box, the type that has a twin tuner, records full series etc.
She has a standard co-ax aerial ie. not cable or Sky.
1. Do these boxes connect to the TV through Scart, co-ax, or HDMI?
2. Will the channels the box has, be the exact same as the ones the TV has?
3. Will there be an option to use the TV as is with current channels, as well as switching to a different input to get the freeview box channels, or will the standard TV channels disappear due to the aerial being plugged into the box instead?
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If referring to the Freeview PVR:
1. Any of them depending on model purchased. It will only be standard definition until Freeview HD is available.
2. Depends on how they are tuned. But they should have the same channels available. They are both Freeview.
3. Aerial connection will be into Freeview PVR and then into TV. So you can be recording on PVR and watching a different channel on the TV. PVR may also have twin tuners depending on model.
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It will only be standard definition until Freeview HD is available>>
You have to buy new equipment (most likely at first from quality brand Humax) to receive Freeview in HD. See, for instance:
tinyurl.com/y9hl93u
www.atlantic2u.net/store/viewproduct.asp?idproduct...9
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1. My lovely new Sony connects through SCART, Component, or HDMI or optical
2. Yes
3. No I shouldn't think it's a problem
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A double-mod reply , that is taking service to a new level!
Cheers guys, snowed in by chance??? :)
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Cheers guys, snowed in by chance??? :)
Not me. A fair amount of snow but been out and about the last two days - and working for home anyway.
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No off out in an MX5 shortly albeit with the roof up.
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2. Yes
...assuming the receiver hardware in each has roughly the same sensitivity, presumably.
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Years ago some very kind soul posted a link to a site which showed every sort of video/optical/TV device and a wiring diagram for how to connect them. Can anybody find that, again, please? I have a new DVD/VHS combi recorder to fit in with an LCD TV and an ordinary SKY box plus a Grundig Freesat Box. Freesat is not built into the TV.
Edited by Armitage Shanks {p} on 06/01/2010 at 17:51
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How many SCARTs connections on the TV? And do you need to record from the freestanding Freesat box onto the DVD/VCR?
Also do you have anything that accepts Dolby Digital surround sound via optical or co-ax TOSLINK otherwise you can ignore the optical link.
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Years ago some very kind soul posted a link to a site which showed every sort of video/optical/TV device and a wiring diagram for how to connect them. Can anybody find that again please?
I think it was Stu. and I think this is probably the link:-
www.radioandtelly.co.uk/connect.html
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>> 2. Yes ...assuming the receiver hardware in each has roughly the same sensitivity presumably.
And the software in the TV and PVR both interpret the broadcast channel numbering correctly or at least consistently.
Edited by SpamCan61 {P} on 06/01/2010 at 19:18
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In addition to the other replies the PVR can connect to the TV by coaxial (aerial) as well as a scart connection so you will in effect have three digital tuners, two in the PVR and one in the TV.
So two different channels can be recorded while another is watched.
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In addition to the other replies the PVR can connect to the TV by coaxial (aerial) as well as a scart connection so you will in effect have three digital tuners two in the PVR and one in the TV.
Bear in mind though that many PVRs don't have an RF modulator so you can't tune in the TV ( assuming it has an analogue tuner anyway ) to view the PVR playback. You need to connect it via SCART or sometimes HDMI.
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>>..assuming it has an analogue tuner anyway ..>>
It's likely that new TVs will continue to include an analogue tuner for a while yet because there are still a large number of, for instance, VCRs in use. Pansonic's Freesat TVs, for example, have analogue, Freeview (digital) and Freesat tuners.
I used to record Freeview programmes on a VCR on a regular basis, but now prefer to do it on my PC in conjunction with ShowShifter (offers the equivalent of features of a PVR and has done so for a number of years).
Using a VCR to record Freeview is possible, of course, as the STBs converted the digital television signals back to analogue to allow them to be shown on analogue only TVs.
Edited by Stuartli on 06/01/2010 at 19:56
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Bear in mind though that many PVRs don't have an RF modulator so you can't tune in the TV ( assuming it has an analogue tuner anyway ) to view the PVR playback. You need to connect it via SCART or sometimes HDMI.
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No, the TV would still be connected to the PVR by scart, the coax would enable the TV digital tuner to be used independently of the PVR's twin tuners.
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1. My lovely new Sony >>
Which model PU?
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Thanks PU, I thought about one though bought a Humax 9300T PVR because it has two tuners as well as being well rated.
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i didn't need the two tuners as it's already linked to a Sky+ box so in theory I can record three channels at once plus a Sky+ box in the back room. Some brand loyalty as well I have a 10 year old Sony DVD which was made out of granite and has stood the test of time....
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Very many thanks for the links to conection diagrams!
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No doubt been covered before, but couldn't search for it ? what does the {P} after some users' names signify, pls?
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A few years ago a few of us decided that if we have a viewable profile we would advertise the fact with the {p} sign. Most people don't bother unless you have been on here for far too long to be healthy.
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And if you'd searched the forum you would have found an answer, including this recent thread:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=79901&...f
The search for the site is different to the Forum Search facility. On the right there's a Back Room "box" which includes a link to Forum Search:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/search.htm
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A few years ago a few of us decided that if we have a viewable profile we would advertise the fact with the {p} sign.
Ah thanks.
Most people don't bother unless you have been on here for far too long to be healthy.
Having been kicking around on and off since May 02 I should really have known that then ;-)
And if you'd searched the forum you would have found an answer
Hmm, I just did a forum search for {P} in the title and only got this thread as a result. Perhaps I should have searched in the body field.
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Hmm I just did a forum search for {P} in the title and only got this thread as a result. Perhaps I should have searched in the body field.
for the best result just change the '< 1month' to '< 3 months'
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for the best result just change the '< 1month' to '< 3 months'
Ah, might have something to do with it...
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We are going to want a 'leaflet' drop as it is usually called. We are going to employ the services of a person that already 'drops' another item and this is on the back of this work. What in the panel's opinion is the likely cost of this operation (per item) Minimum 500 at a time we guess.
Regards...M
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Our local freebie weekly newspaper (the paid for version would likely be more expensive) often includes leaflet drops with its paper deliveries.
Could be worth asking for a quote and comparing it to what you feel might be appropriate for fee you might already have in mind for the original choice.
Royal Mail, of course, has a similar service but again might proved expensive.
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500 won't be anything like enough. The classic mistake is people think you get responce from them. You don't. You find that you will get 2 or 3 responces in 1000 if you're lucky but once you have got those 3 depending on the business you can get lots of repeat work from them.
I rarely do it any more but when I was doing it heavily I would be getting 500 leaflets a day out, I delivered them myself in quiet times.
Also don't pay too much for the leaflets, I used to pay around £130 for 10,000 A6 full colour double sided. Local high street printers will want 3 times that amount.
Now I just print them off on my laser as its mainly aimed at existing customers who have lost my number.
Edited by Rattle on 06/01/2010 at 23:48
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Hi Rats,
We are going to be paying £365.00 + vat for 10k A6 350gsm double sided postcards. We are aware of the low response thing, but we are, through a number of means, going to get our name to the local populace. To achieve what we want will take two years so we are under no illusions.
The figure of 500 is because we are going to have them 'dropped' by a mature lady (they will get there) who is also delivering something else at the same time. We are just unsure what we need to pay her.
Best regards....Martin.
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Ratty, what company did you use?
Martin.
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Yes the response will be low so if you do it you will want to get a lot out and if you are going to do it do skimp on quality in respect of design or print, cheap leaflets and cards dont work, quality ones stand out. Also be targetted, i.e. dont drop double glazing leaflets around a new housing estate.
However there may be a better way, what is the product or service? Perhaps a promotion in a local newspaper, give them an XXX to use as a prize ... ...
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350 GSM double sided Postcard cheddar. Top quality.
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We are just unsure what we need to pay her. Best regards....Martin.
I did someting similar before Christmas. I paid the guy delivering the leaflets £5 per hour, which on top of what he was getting from the other company made for a reasonable wage.
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>>I paid the guy delivering the leaflets £5 per hour>>
As much as that......:-)
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Isn't the minimum wage £5-80 per hour?
Pat
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Isn't the minimum wage £5-80 per hour?
But the £5 was on top of what he was already earning - doesn't sound too bad for a nice walk (although perhaps not in this weather!).
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Isn't the minimum wage £5-80 per hour?
But it's not a wage.
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>>I paid the guy delivering the leaflets £5 per hour>> As much as that......:-)
I have always thrown money about!
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They are self employed. I e.g I employ Joe Bloggs to deliver 1000 leaflets, I say deliver in them in this area, I pay you £25 for it. I then put that in as a business claim, he has to sort his own NI and income tax out.
However I can't be bothered with all that hassle so do them myself.
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Last time I delivered leaflets I was paid 30/- a thousand. That must have been about 1970!
If I remember rightly I could do about a thousand a day if I ran a bit. That appears to tie in with rates like Royal Mail which start at £59 a thousand.
Of course much depends on where you are doing it. I was in suburban streets with shortish front gardens. I would want a lot more in rural Devon with only one house per valley!
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I am sending one e-mail "To:" two addresses, for the sake of argument "corpname@corp.co.uk" and "firstname.lastname@orgname.co.uk".
How to start? "Dear sir"? "Dear Sir/Madam"? "To Whom It May Concern"?
Also, how to finish!
What is "proper"?
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I would send a separate email to each addressee, and, if necessary, let each company know that you have emailed the other.
If I didn't have any contact names I would start with Dear Sir or Madam and end with yours faithfully.
But I'm a bit old fashioned!
Clk Sec
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>>I would send a separate email to each addressee, and, if necessary, let each company know that you have emailed the other.>>
Not necessary. Just follow the first e-mail address by a semi-colon, then add the second e-mail address.
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>>>>I would send a separate email to each addressee...
Possibly more chance of a response if it doesn't look like an round-robin?
Clk Sec
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If I'm sending an e-mail to more than one person I put all the addresses in the BCc field - then the recipient feels that they're the on;y ones that got it - I usually start and end my e-mails in the described informally (Hi, Hello Mr X (!) and Thanks PU etc)
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Do you need to be formal? Can't you get away with 'Hi' at the start and 'Regards' at the end?
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If the letters are important, use snail mail; registered if appropriate.
E-mails can easily be "lost" by the recipient if they so wish.
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All well and good, but what is the answer to the actual question?
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All well and good but what is the answer to the actual question?
>>>phone them
its nice to talk
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I absolutely agree with you bb. E-mail is the scourge of modern business life sometimes. Look at the number of times posts are either accidentally or maybe even deliberately misinterpreted on here for evidence of how the written word can so easily be ignored or twisted in its meaning. I often have to ask customers ( much more often these days ) to settle their bills. E-mails get ignored or deliberately taken offence to or strategically misunderstood. A phone call means you can use a friendly but firm tone of voice and is much more difficult to ignore.
Similarly, if I need a favour from a supplier or somesuch, I always phone. Sending an e-mail almost never elicits the response you want particularly if you are asking for something the other party obviously doesn't really want to do. Much more difficult to turn down a real human at the end of a telephone line. Also, if negotiation is required it can be done at a much less confrontational level when people actually speak to one another and more fully explain their needs and positions in a discussion rather than batting bare info back and forth. I'd disinvent the wretched things if I could...
Inevitably though, what happens nowadays is that you finish the phone call and the twonk at the other end says "send me an e-mail summarising that....."....sheesh...
;-)
Edit - Often tempted to then send an e-mail saying...
"...and further to our telephone conversation this morning etc....pay your blankety blank bill or I'll blankety blank sue you...is that clear ? "
Edited by Humph Backbridge on 07/01/2010 at 17:45
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Send an email referring to a phone call threatening a letter, I like it HB.
Did you get down this way then?
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No scratched it for this week. London tomorrow though but not for long I hope. S'Friday isn't it ?
;-)
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You forgot to mention faxing a copy, on pink paper of course.
Yes, I know. It's a joke... :-)
JH
Edited by JH on 07/01/2010 at 19:49
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When email first came in for sending to clients, our house style was:
No salutation at all; finish with "regards Mapmaker".
Nowadays, anything goes. What annoys me particularly is people who don't sign their emails, but instead rely on their signature to do the work.
Anyway, OP, do you want both recipients to know the other one is receiving it? Is it "to" one, copied to the other? Or "to" both of them? Or what?
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...No salutation at all; finish with "regards Mapmaker"...
I tend to use: 'Mapmaker', and finish with 'regards Ifithelps'.
I'm happy enough with the sign-off, but using just the recipient's name as the salutation doesn't feel quite right, but then nor does 'Dear....', or nothing at all.
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Anyway OP do you want both recipients to know the other one is receiving it? Is it "to" one copied to the other? Or "to" both of them? Or what?
Yes, I do want both recipients to know that the other is receiving it, and want to send one e-mail only.
So, the To: header will look like this:
To: corpname (corpname@corp.co.uk), firstname.lastname (firstname.lastname@orgname.co.uk)
Substitute less than symbol for open round bracket, greater than symbol for close round bracket.
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Evening All
Been absent for a while, good to see the the usual crowd still here. Hope you've kept me a seat in the corner.
OK, the question. I've got myself a HD telly and some HD devices (Humax Freesat HD, XBox 360 and PS3). I'd like to connect them all up through a good sound system with extra speakers but can't work out how this would work.
All the devices connect to the tv using HDMI directly; do I need to get a !"sound box" that takes the three HDMI inputs and outputs the signal 1080p for the game boxes, 1080i for the Freesat to the TV.
Don't need a Blu Ray player as the PS3 does that.
Can anyone explain how I'd connect them up, or even better recommend a device that would do the job?
BTW, the PS3 is a brilliant bit of kit, internet, BBC iPlayer, bluray, plays movies on its hard disk and also does games. brilliant!!
Thanks as ever
Lee
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My HD TV and Virgin HD box simply connect to the cinema sound system amp using standard audio cables - the red and white ones.
You could output everything from your TV sound channels or connect all the devices directly to the amp.
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standard audio cables - the red and white ones.
That gives you stereo only. I assumed the question was how to get the digital feeds out. I think there's more than one solution and I'd be relying on google or similar to find an answer and the OP could do that.
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daveyjp, thanks for the reply - that's how I understand audio things work, but I wanted to go pure digital using the HDMI, keeping the picture quality and getting better sound output than the TV provides alone.
>>OP could do that
rjt - Google - genius, yes why didn't I think of that? You're better at Google than me if you can find the answer...but then most IT consultants would be out on the street tomorrow if they were disallowed search engines.
Perhaps someone who knows how these things work better than I could offer some constructive advice, I've already trawled avforums etc but this seems to be one of those questions where I've either just completely misunderstood the concept or am looking at it in the wrong way.
Cheers
Edited by Citroënian {P} on 07/01/2010 at 21:06
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Ok lets get this right
You have three HDMI sources and you need to direct them to two HDMI targets (Video (TV) and Audio )?
You are going to need an HDMI reciever, with HDMI in/out
Your source goes into the reciever for audio (suround sound speakers connected to it) and the reciever HDMI output goes to your TV,
If you want them (sources) all plugged in at the same times all the time, you will need an HDMI switch iof your reciever does not have sufficient HDMI in ports.
So start your web search for HDMI reciever - all the usual suspects apply Sony, panasonic, toshiba etc. See what Richer sounds have.
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AE - thanks for that; it's exactly the situation.
I suspect that the HDMI switch is the only solution to multiple HDMI sources; was hoping to find a more elegant solution but all the products I've seen so far including those on Richer and Sony seem to have only a single HDMI input. Will check out the Panny website.
Perhaps the idea is to have cinema sound output only from the Blu Ray source...
Beginning to think that if there is a one box solution that it's going to be so comically expensive that I'd rather spend the money on a speedboat.
Cheers again
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There's no kind of audio 'digital out' from the TV?
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Optical links anywhere or Component video for the DVD ?
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I was going to say the same as dipdip - take the digital audio feed from the TV to a receiver. Failing that I can see it will be as AE suggests and a receiver with HDMI inputs. Probably not going to be cheap.
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If all of the devices connect okay to the TV at the moment using HDMI and they will all have Optical TOSLINKs out for sound, can you not feed the TOSLINKs into a receiver/switch for sound only? Or am I missing something obvious?
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On Sep 19 2009 my daughter and I were seriously assaulted during a party for her. A group of 15/16/17 y/os attempted to gain entry to assault a boy they knew was there. My daughter was struck on the chin (cut to her chin, treated with steristrips) by a bottle thrust at her by a 14 y/o girl (who denies it, despite several witnesses), and later I was hit by about five or six youths, and suffered head injuries - 17 stitches, and at least twelve individual blows to my head, though I was not KO'd. My car was also damaged, by a person who I saw do it, and who left a perfect shoe print that SOCO lifted 36 hours later.
To date I believe (information flow to me is patchy and sporadic) that one person has admitted the first blow to my R eye, which caused 11 stitches. Others have admitted common assault, but not anything approaching wounding. I understand that about ten people have been arrested, and are still bailed.
I was told to approach the parent of the boy who damaged my car, direct, to get compensation, before a statement was taken from me and my daughter, who also saw the incident. because of this and delays he was not formally arrested and trainers seized until late December. The trainers he produced did not match, and he denies the allegation. The case is now NFA.
Questions:
What is a reasonable timescale for the investigation into the assault, and a decision on charges?
Was it reasonable for TVP to tell me to investigate/pursue the criminal damage before taking statements? The chances of me now winning a civil case against him are now zero (despite him having been heard bragging about it at school).
Was it reasonable for TVP to issue me with a "harassment notice" following a complaint by the mother of the boy I allege committed the criminal damage? I only contacted her on the advice/instruction of the police, was utterly reasonable in the call, and only contacted her once.
Your advice much appreciated.
Edited by oldnotbold on 08/01/2010 at 10:15
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It's no help whatsoever but at times like this the word Camorra comes to mind.
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...What is a reasonable timescale for the investigation into the assault, and a decision on charges?...
That's a hard one - some cases are charged almost immediately.
At the other end of the spectrum, I've seen cases in which new evidence has come to light, resulting in charges years later.
If it's any help, cases of routine yob violence - if you'll pardon the description - reach court several months after the offence, but usually within a year.
You mention 'youths' and 'a group of 15/16/17-year-olds' which puts this in Youth Court territory, which will make it harder to follow, if and when it reaches court.
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"which will make it harder to follow, if and when it reaches court."
Though since I'm a victim, I should a) be called as a witness and b) be told of the progress.
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...Though since I'm a victim, I should a) be called as a witness and b) be told of the progress...
You will only be called as a witness if the case is contested.
Many defendants plead guilty to a reduced charge or 'on a basis'.
One of the reasons prosecutors make such deals is to save the victim the ordeal of giving evidence.
As regards being told of the progress, you should be, but my experience tells me this often does not happen.
Try to strike up a good relationship with the officer in charge (oic) of your case, as he/she is best placed to keep you informed.
However, even a diligent oic can lose track of a case during its journey through the courts.
Edited by ifithelps on 08/01/2010 at 11:13
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Here's a pragmatic suggestion. There's no actual long-lasting damage apart from a dent in your car which dent master will shift for £100. Be grateful, and forget it and move on. I don't suppose I would, but sometimes things aren't worth worrying about.
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...I was hit by about five or six youths, and suffered head injuries - 17 stitches, and at least twelve individual blows to my head...
Mapmaker,
Could Dentmaster fix the OP's head as well? :)
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I do not think that incidents such as these should be ignored simply because "little damage has been done". They should go through the works, and the perpetrators stamped on.
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"There's no actual long-lasting damage apart from a dent in your car which dent master will shift for £100."
Not the case - it's £500 min - I've got an estimate from my indy garage as the wing is creased, twice, beyond repair.
Edited by oldnotbold on 08/01/2010 at 11:32
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"Try to strike up a good relationship with the officer in charge (oic) of your case, as he/she is best placed to keep you informed."
I thought I had a good relationship, but the way things are going, the PC on the criminal damage case will be the subject of an IPCC complaint quite soon, the Sgt on the assault case just does not reply to emails and voicemails, and when I wrote to the Chief Constable she/her office did not reply to/acknowledge my letters.
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Another avenue for information would be the Crown Prosecution Service.
They do not routinely take calls from the public, so might well moan, groan, mumble and try to fob you off.
But they are public servants and should be well appraised of the 'putting the victim at the heart of the system' mantra.
Ask to speak to the lawyer in charge of your case.
Seventeen stitches equals a very nasty assault, so it's not as if you are inquiring about a trivial matter.
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Will the CPS even have a case file open yet? At what stage in an investigation does the CPS open a file?
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The CPS give charging advice to the police and prosecute the case at court.
You say someone has admitted causing the injury to your right eye - 11 stitches.
That person will have to be dealt with at court, so the CPS will have to open a file at some point even if they have not done so already.
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Police will have sought advice at a very early stage from the CPS - basically when the first ones were arrested - the process roughly is arrest, interview (option to speak to CPS Direct in simple cases) in this case I would imagine that once the main players were arrested and interviewed the Reporting Officer would have been for a face to face meeting with the CPS and then been tasked to complete certain enquiries before a decision is made whether to charge and what charges are actually brought. The reality of a multi-offender and complex case like this it may take months before the Police are in a position to charge - I think you need to speak to the Officer dealing. Don't know whether TVP is part of the QUEST pilot (do a google) but they really need to be keeping you up to date as an individual. Have a look at the PDFs on this page, this is what they should be working to
www.thamesvalley.police.uk/aboutus-depts-qos
SPEAK TO THE REPORTING OFFICER MAKE IT CLEAR YOU NEED TO BE KEPT MORE INFORMED AS TO PROGRESS.
Happy to hide this thread before people start ranting about phoning MPs and whatever and also to prevent you being identified from the question
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I have no problems being ID'd, and have been in contact with my MP over some aspects of the case.
I've just left the Sgt running the case my fifth voicemail (as well as emails) in the last four weeks, so I'm hopeful of a reply soon, though past performance suggests otherwise.
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TVP are on QUEST - look at this and weep:
"My name is Christian Bunt and I am an Inspector with Thames Valley Police currently working on Operation QUEST. I have been seconded to QUEST from my role as Force Community and Diversity Manager, working in Local Policing at HQ. I am thrilled to be part of QUEST and saw this as a once in a career opportunity to work with the finest minds in KPMG!! You can imagine my surprise when I returned from annual leave to be called by the ACC and asked if I would like to be part of the project. The very next day I started on QUEST in Berks East BCU. My feet have not touched the ground since!!"
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Told you'd laugh. Why don't you phone him direct - that should get you a result.....
Edited by Pugugly on 08/01/2010 at 13:10
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"Told you'd laugh"
I'd be laughing all the way to the bank if I was a partner in KPMG.
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You should see the trips some of them have had to so-called QUEST Academies .......:-)
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ok, I need to buy a bread maker (retirement pressie) in next 2 weeks, and know nowt about 'em. Anyone out there with first hand experience, plse?
It's will live in a house occupied by 2 women, if that makes any difference.
many thanks for any help
EH
PS daft final thought - owner could then call home a Doughbe Hasienda...?
Edited by Pugugly on 08/01/2010 at 18:10
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morphy richards fast bake
we got ours for about £35 in tesco 6 months ago
its a first class machine and we often let it do the job as we go to bed
you must tell them to use dried yeast for best results alinsons and or hovis
it also makes cakes
and or jam but we havent tried the jam making yet
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Is it just me or is it odd that I've learned more cooking tips from the backroom and from MEN, than in all the years I've been trying to cook:)
What a truly domesticated lot you are!
Or maybe just under the thumb?
Pat
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Or maybe just under the thumb? Pat
In my book women should be kept barefoot and pregnant (but not in the kitchen)
they cant be trusted with sharp objects and hot things.
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In my book women should be kept barefoot and pregnant (but not in the kitchen)
Good evening AE. I am sure I recall a pre-decimalisation version of that!!
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That well known consumer magazine (don't ask me which one) has tested nearly a score and, of its eight Best Buys, the top models in order are the Kenwood BM450 followed by five Morphy Richards products, 48245, 48267, 48268, 48248 and 48271.
The first four range from £40 to £45 (lowest prices found), performing virtually as well as the £94 Kenwood.
Details at:
www.morphyrichards.co.uk/BreadMakers.aspx
However, the prices listed can be easily beaten on-line or kitchen appliances outlets.
Since seen bell boy's comment - there are several Fast Bake models...:-)
Edited by Stuartli on 08/01/2010 at 18:23
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If you want a good quality one buy a Panasonic.
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...If you want a good quality one buy a Panasonic....
Unless you knead the dough, in which case, buy a cheaper one.
(Sorry, someone had to be the first.)
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Our Panasonic has a "knead only" mode if you want to use a huge oven for a bread bake when the machine will probably do a better job.
Edited by Old Navy on 08/01/2010 at 18:58
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>>the top models in order are the Kenwood BM450 followed by five Morphy Richards products...
We had a Morphy Richards for about 6 years which was very good, but this has recently been replaced by a Kenwood.
Of the two my wife prefers the Kenwood.
Clk Sec
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>>..Of the two my wife prefers the Kenwood.>>
Probably because it's a six years younger model with improved technology..:-)
There are two Panasonic models mentioned in the top eight - the SD-254 and SD-255 - but their performances are not on a par with the Kenwood and MR models I mentioned, hence their seventh and eighth placing.
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>>Probably because it's a six years younger model with improved technology..:-)
Valid point!
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When I bought *my* bread maker, sheeple said "Oh, that won't last 5 minutes before you tire of it"
that was 5 years ago and I still make *all* our wholemeal bread.
It matters not wot make it is - as long as it's got sonic & Pana in the name.
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Panasonic every time! Several friends have bought cheaper makes, and not been happy.
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