I'm 42, got 10 o levels, 3 a levels and a degree and can't spell my middle name.
I always get two letters the wrong way round. I always know it's going to happen but I can't tell if it's right until I see it on paper and I always right it down wrong.
(It's John by the way - not exactly difficult you'd think)
The other word I can't spell is ghost - same two letters - o and h.
I spelt them both wrong in this email to begin with and I'd spell them wrong if I had to write them again in ten minute's time. It's an odd thing the human brain.
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Indeed :) One thing I seem to be ok with is I don't forget things with my job I suppose it is a form of dyslexia. I am 27, have about 9 GCSEs, 2.5 A levels and a 2:1. I think partly the program is at university I by brain was always working hard with lots of new ideas, I learnt a lot about electrical physics all which I have forgot but that is because it was not relevent to anything it was just modules they had to do to pad it out :(.
Now I have been doing my job for four years my brain has become lazy. Been up working till well over 2:00am for the past four nights too, three of them working on customers machines the other was more merry :).
All my life from 1986 to 2005 I was constantly studying and then in 2007 I did a short open university course, in 2006 I did a short business course, in 2008 I passed my driving test so I suppose 2009 has been the first truly lazy year of my life in terms of learning. Learnt more than I ever wanted to know about cars though!
I think I just need some brain training :).
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Your "dementia" could be an early sign of:
Wernicke's encephalopathy and Korsakoff's psychosis
www.patient.co.uk/doctor/Wernicke-Korsakoff-Syndro...m
If you can correctly spell "Wernicke's encephalopathy and Korsakoff's psychosis", you don't have it. ;-)
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Maybe worth seeing a Doctor Rattle - if only to put your mind at rest. You may need some mental exercise away from work stuff.
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I had to write the word enough the other day but it just didn't LQQK right, I checked it with ispell which confirmed the spelling was correct, but IT STILL DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT TO ME!
When I write (type) the word 'recommend' I always have to 'ispell' it.
The English language isn't easy at all - how can though spell tho for goodness sake :)
I'm 57, ain't got any O levels, A levels, GCE's, NVQ's or anyfink like that, but I've managed to drag my self out of South London, start my own business & move to Cornwall.
I suspect, from what I've read up on the subject - that I am slightly Autistic, what 'they' call high functioning
Maybe you are a tad Dyslexic Effendi - Lucky you! I've known a few Dyslexics ... All Millionaires!
(ispell checked)
Edited by Webmaster on 04/11/2009 at 01:30
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Now I have been doing my job for four years my brain has become lazy. Been up working till well over 2:00am for the past four nights too three of them working on customers machines the other was more merry :).
I dont think your brain is getting lazy, it is tired. Try slowing down for a while, I think its called "chilling out" these days, and get more sleep.
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>>> I think I just need some brain training :).
er; how can I put this?
Perhaps you need to get to bed at night! you are posting at two minutes past two in the morning and you have to be up in the morning to run your computer repair business. I notice you say you are working on customers machines. I think perhaps you should re-organise your work.
I don't wish to appear rude, but I think you should get a good night's sleep.
I apologise in advance for any offence which may be caused.
EDIT. I missed Old Navy's post. Better expressed and succinct.
Edited by drbe on 02/11/2009 at 10:38
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enough
Edited by Pugugly on 02/11/2009 at 14:06
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I'm 42 got 10 o levels 3 a levels and a degree and can't spell my middle name.
What? "Bad"
you seem to able to spell BEER and WOMEN ok.
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"you seem to able to spell BEER and WOMEN ok."
Because beer and women don't contain o and h together
I always seem to have a problem with "hookers" however.
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and with "its your round"
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Rattle, well done for recognising and admitting that you have a problem but I don't think your analysis of your problem is correct. I've just looked at your first post on this forum (29th January 2007), and your spelling and grammar was every bit as bad as it is now. I think you need to make enquiries regarding the availability of a suitable night-school course to improve your spelling and grammar, and enrol on it as soon as possible.
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... just looked at your first post on this forum (29th January 2007), and your spelling and grammar was every bit as bad as it is now. ... >>
In other words, we can look forward to as many paranoid posts on this subject from Rattle as we get from him on his car defects. ;-)
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Pure laziness. Your generation is used to writing gnr8n so just cannot be bothered to spell.
When you have written a post, read it aloud to make sure it makes sense. That will help with the grammar. You'll feel a bit silly, but the rewards will be great for the rest of us - and your own satisfaction.
When it comes to the spelling, cnocentrate. Write down lists of words, and learn to spell them like you did when you were 7 (I bet you never bothered). Writing like an educated person is hard work, and you have never put that effort it.
We'd all (mostly anyway) also be most appreciative.
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"When you have written a post, read it aloud to make sure it makes sense"
Do as I say, not as I do :-)
"cnocentrate"?
"effort it."?
Lots of reading is good for grammar and spelling.
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I for one aren't too concerned with backroomers making the occasional spelling mistake. Writing in 'txt' however is a pet annoyance of mine.
Regarding spelling though, there are many free spell checker applications that work in conjunction with your preferred web browser, but unfortunately they're not infallible.
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
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... there are many free spell checker applications that work in conjunction with your preferred web browser, but unfortunately they're not infallible. ... >>
;-) I don't suppose Rattle knows anything about how to use those, as he has a degree in IT, and he is an IT professional !
Or is it he can't be bothered, because, as he says his " ... brain has become lazy .. "?
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i use opera and it underlines all my bad words like it does in word
however americanisms slip in
eg
immobiliser looks right to me but the spell check makes it immobilizer
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Firefox does an auto spell check too but it is Americanised so you you get Zs when an English person expects Ss (see Belboy's comment)
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I know someone who refuses to use 's' for 'z' as 'z' is British.
It always used to be 'z', but over time, like a lot of language, it has changed and 'z' is now deemed to be 'American', yet the use of 'z' was introduced to the US by UK immigrants.
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There are too many pedants on this site ready to berate you for any mistake and link it to the fall in general standards
If the post in question can be comprehended with relative ease, its fine.
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I find that reading a lot of poorly spelled posts over many years tends to throw the brain a bit sideways.
Tip: If you're not sure of correct spelling, quickest way to check is chuck it into Google. If it comes back with 'Did you mean ......' you got it wrong, and now have the correct spelling.
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Spell checkers are ghastly. If you leave them on auto they underline almost every other word, especially if you use a lot of words the spell checker hasn't got in its databank and are writing about people and organisations with unusual names.
There isn't much connection between correct spelling and literacy, let alone intelligence. Most people have oddities in this area, and I know very well someone who is a full Professor and can't spell for toffee nuts.
I don't have any problem in this area myself, although I do make an occasional error in the heat of the moment. My wife is much the same. But all that makes us good for is proofreading and editing. Both dying skills as people read less and less and what they write descends to hitherto unplumbed depths of balderdash.
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Reading might be the key to better spelling later in life. I was encouraged to read at 3 yrs by MummyTed...she was a journalist. At 6 or 7 I was always in the local library, just round the corner from Rattle Manor. I devoured all the Arthur Ransome books, leading to books on the Lakes and Peak districts. Prior to girls, I was interested in all sorts of things and read about them all the time......having no telly helped, I am sure. I still cram my increasingly feeble mind with all sorts of facts and trivia...I can't settle down to fiction, all right...Arnold Bennett does it for me.
Poetry as well, wonderful use of the language...Tennyson, Auden, Betjeman and so on.
Proofread what you ave wrote b4 you post...amazing what you find.
Ted
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That is the problem, I have lots of books but like so many of my generation have little attention span.
Technical books I get on fine with because they are for a purpose and have a goal.
As for the library if the rumours I have heard from council are true Mr Bernstain wants to demolish the school and the library :( I shall be protesting if that happens. The school may be an old Edwardian cold pit (as I remember it) but its one of the finest remaining examples of any suburban Edwardian building.
I have a feeling the next few visits to the library will be at community meetings shouting at the beligount ghouls that run the council.
Edited by Pugugly on 02/11/2009 at 16:39
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.. If you leave them on auto they underline almost every other word, especially if you use a lot of words the spell checker hasn't got in its databank and are writing about people and organisations with unusual names. .. >>
The free spell checkers that I know of allow you to tailor the database - you can add to the bank by a simple right-click on the unusual word.
However, you still have to know the difference between:
your and you're; led and lead; loose and lose; there and their; pedal and peddle, metal and mettle; license and licence, practise and practice, brake and break, etc.
So having given you a piece of my mind, it has given me some peace of mind! "Definatly" [as VR6 says in his recent thread].
p.s. I think ie7pro addon works on IE8.
www.ie7pro.com/
Edited by jbif on 02/11/2009 at 15:41
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Break and brake confuses me. I know the difference its just when I typing in a rush I sometimes get them wrong. In fact even when typing this it just takes me nano seconds, I type faster than my brain can even think which I think is why my spelling is always so poor.
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I type faster than my brain can even think which I think is why my spelling is always so poor.
A kind schoolmaster once made the same excuse for my handwriting. Actually not quite. He said the brain moved too fast for the hand.
Edited by Lud on 02/11/2009 at 16:43
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It's computerrs that do it. Use one o' they there bliddy things for a few years, and you're in trouble with your spleeing. You've only got to look at the formerly decent spleeing in organs such as "The Daily Telegraph" - now pretty rotten. I have written to them about it, but no-one even bothered to reply.
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I wanted to reply yesterday rattle, but didn't think my thoughts on this would be welcome!
However my compelling need to stick up for the underdog has won over better judgement.:)
Should we be concerned about bad spelling or grammar in a forum post?
I don't think so.
Content is better than quality in this instance.
Surely the person who tries his best without a spell checker should be applauded more than the person who relies on one at all times?
There are times when posting on here I have been intimidated looking at my own posts, knowing it is 'bad grammar' but no matter how much I stared at it, I couldn't find a better way to put it.
I have on occasion deleted my own post and just not replied because of this.
I would have been mortified if someone had pointed the grammatical error out, and many of you do tend to do this with spelling errors.
Whilst I fully accept that a well written/spelled and grammatically correct post is a pleasure to read, ( and something to be proud of if you wrote it) does it outweigh the actual contribution?
Rattle writes some excellent posts with far reaching viewpoints and we all understand what he's saying.
What happened to being tolerant of others inabilities?
What happened to good manners?
Surely, we should all make an effort to make others feel 'comfortable' in our company?
Let's enjoy the opinions of others and stop intimidating them because their abilities don't match up.
There, I feel better now:)
As an aside, I've just had an Insights Discovery Personal Profile done and it did say I would always, without fail, fight for the underdog. It was so right!
Pat
Edited by pda on 03/11/2009 at 07:42
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>>What happened to being tolerant
>>What happened to good manners?
>>Surely, we should all make an effort to make others feel 'comfortable' in our company?
Couldn't have put it better myself, pda.
Clk Sec
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