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Orient Express - London to Venice - drbe
Does anyone know where I can get some reasonably priced trips on the Orient Express?

The prices on the official website are a little eye-watering.

Any ideas please?
Orient Express - London to Venice - Stuartli
Key in "Cut price Orient Express trips" into Google - but still eye-watering...:-)
Orient Express - London to Venice - Lud
still eye-watering...


As is the ambient temperature in Siberia if the cheap tickets just happen to be for that time of year... My thin Aussie son in law said he had never realised you could feel with your body the difference between minus eighteen and minus twenty-five celsius, until he found himself at a bus stop in Irkutsk in January...
Orient Express - London to Venice - drbe
>> still eye-watering...
As is the ambient temperature in Siberia >> at a bus stop in Irkutsk in January...


That is obviously going the pretty way from London to Venice....................
Orient Express - London to Venice - legacylad
Have you considered the 'Eastern & Oriental Express' as an alternative to the London-Venice? The website is very impressive, and I think it represents better value for money.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - madux
I am trying to advertise this petition as best I can. Please go to justiceforwilbur.co.uk - with www's of course. Links to No. 10 petition. It is to do with the Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976.
Moderators please delete if inappropriate - no motoring connection whatsoever, just something that has really upset me.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - rtj70
I find such a thing to have happened shocking. So I hope the other mods let this stand. It might not have been a cat. And poor cat!!!

Edited by rtj70 on 29/07/2009 at 01:59

For all those with pets or children - please read. - legacylad
After 15+ years in the pet trade I was not aware of this. It needs to be changed and I am trying to help. Glad the perps do not live near me.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - Mapmaker
>>It might not have been a cat.

But it was. It is unlikely that any other domestic pet would have made its way into the snake's garden.

People who allow their cats to run wild must accept the consequences of their prize mog being killed. I do, and I do. If cat owners are not prepared to accept these consequences, then they must keep their cats indoors.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - FotheringtonThomas
Same for cats killed by dogs, or even other cats, in the back garden, surely? I haven't heard of hordes of cats being swallowed by pet pythons, it must be vanishingly unusual.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - Altea Ego
By the same yardstick, most cats are killed by cars. Do we ban cars?

You have to accept that cats, are by nature, wanderers. The climb things, treat other peoples gardens as their own territory, they run into roads, chase my dog, all sorts of things.

As MM said, if you own a cat, you have to accept that you either keep it shut indoors (it will hate you forever if you do) or you let it roam and accept its dangerous out there for cats.
The chances are the cat had a go at the snake anyway, rather than HiTailing it outathere, because cats are like that

How was the snake BTW? thats a big meal to consume.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - Stuartli
>>You have to accept that cats, are by nature, wanderers>>

Cats, in fact, have a territory and patrol it on a regular basis, marking it out and being fully aware if any other cat has been present.

Some feral cats can have a territory extending up to five square kilometres.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - perro
Very shocking and traumatic for the cat's owners!
But a very rare case I'll wager ... my 9 year old 6.5 stone Rhodesian Ridgeback regularly chases cats - but he's never caught one (yet!) occasionally he has managed to corner a cat, and when the cat stands his ground, Milo just backs orf with his tail between his legs!
Cats are regularly crossing my garden - but they can well out-manouver him, and after all - they have nine lives I believe.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - njgleeds
It looks like we've finally found an answer to the age old "How do I deter cats from my garden?" question which keeps cropping up on here...

Edited by njgleeds on 29/07/2009 at 11:53

For all those with pets or children - please read. - perro
+++ It looks like we've finally found an answer to the age old "How do I deter cats from my garden?" question which keeps cropping up on here... +++

3 Hail Mary's and 4 Our Fathers!!!
For all those with pets or children - please read. - Altea Ego
And the "what do I feed my python on" question.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - drbe
What a waste of time!

No - do not change the law just because of one isolated incident.

Any way our poor MPs have quite enough to do as it is!
For all those with pets or children - please read. - BobbyG
I have a personal dislike of cats, but that aside, I didn't realise that there was no regulation for these types of snakes.

I would much rather have a cat in my back garden that I can hiss at and it runs away, than opening my back door and something long and slimy hissing at me!!
For all those with pets or children - please read. - defender
what about when it is a child ?www.coloradoan.com/article/20090702/UPDATES01/9070...a
++2-year-old+girl+killed+by+giant+pet+python
For all those with pets or children - please read. - madux
what about when it is a child ?

Thanks for the back-up, defender. A lot of people seem to have missed the point. This is not an isolated case, as anyone who takes the trouble to look at the website can see. My neighbour is perfectly entitled to keep a python in his back garden - what if a child climbs over the fence to get his ball back? Not the same as a dog killing a cat.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - FotheringtonThomas
Pet dogs have killed far more children in the UK than pet snakes.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - defender
there needs to be a bit more control over keeping certain breeds of dogs as well
For all those with pets or children - please read. - Altea Ego
>> what about when it is a child ?
Thanks for the back-up defender. A lot of people seem to have missed the point.
This is not an isolated case as anyone who takes the trouble to look at
the website can see.


Oh I see, two cases globaly make this not an isolated case. There are far more things to petition against than the loss of a stupid cat to a python.
For all those with pets or children - please read. - madux
Oh I see two cases globaly make this not an isolated case. There are far
more things to petition against than the loss of a stupid cat to a python.


Somebody else has missed the point. And not done their research. It is not that particular 'stupid' cat that worries me.
Restoring Faded 'Canvas' - 007
Two or three years ago I purchased an awning to extend over our patio doors on sunny days (remember those?).

Unfortunately, the first six inches or so of the material which is permanently exposed to the elements, has faded badly.

I am looking for a paint or coating of some kind which I can apply to the material (which is not canvas but looks and feels like canvas) so as to match the original green colour of the remainder of the awning which is rolled-up when not in use.

I have asked the awning supplier and a tent and marquee hire company for advice but they could not come up with any suggestions.

Backroomers in this thread often come up with the right answers...can you please do so on this occasion?

TIA

Edited by rtj70 on 29/07/2009 at 13:04

Restoring Faded 'Canvas' - Altea Ego
Asuming its an absorbent material of some kind, I would use a powder dye, mixed to the right shade and painted in. Or it sems they make a fabiric paint

www.candh.co.uk/category.asp?src=AdFabDye2&cat_id=...A



Restoring Faded 'Canvas' - spikeyhead {p}
Once you've dyed it, I'd add a sacrificial strip to the exposed edge that you can change every year or two.
Restoring Faded 'Canvas' - 007
Thank-you both for those helpful suggestions.
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - Nsar
I bought one from ASDA a few months ago which is utter pony.

Looking for three handsets, I'd prefer no answering machine as 1571 is worth the money and not bothered by whistles and bells as I've never once programmed a speed dial in any phone I've had.

I've done a forum search but the last time it was discussed seemed to be a couple of years ago.

Thanks folks.

Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - rtj70
Most on here normally recommend Panasonic handsets.
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - ifithelps
...I bought one from ASDA a few months ago which is utter pony...

I was after a basic single handset cordless and bought a BT branded one for under £20 from Comet or somewhere similar.

It works, but call clarity is poor more often than not.

I won't be buying another cheapie.
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - Armitage Shanks {p}
I don't pay anything for 1571 - who does? How much and to whom?
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - Stuartli
Most on here normally recommend Panasonic handsets.>>


I would agree and, I'm told by those who know these things, that it's a brand whose DECT phones are the least likely to cause any potential problems with a broadband wireless set up.

However, I live in a town with one of the North West's B and M Discount Stores outlets and just discontinued cordless phones from a range of manufacturers are regularly on sale at remarkably low prices.

I bought a Philips DECT phone about a year ago for £14 from the store to replace an old BT analogue model and, when the 30-year-old BT answering machine (bought secondhand) packed up, spotted a BT Freestyle 650 with answering machine base (£25), I snapped it up as the combination was £4 less than the current BT answering machine.

The 650 is now the main phone with the Philips doing duty on the top landing - providing you have GAP compatible phones they can be programmed to work together.
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - rtj70
I have a cheap Tesco setup with no problems for broadband. I had a Philips one but battery life went down hill and didn't "fit" others and I needed two anyway.... moved rooms for the office.
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - Stuartli
One particular benefit with the BT Freestyle 650 is that it uses rechargeable AAA batteries; I already had some with double the mA capacity of those provided with the phone so, once they had quickly charged up, I was able to use it immediately rather than wait 24 hours for the originals to be charged up in the phone itself.


Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - FotheringtonThomas
rechargeable AAA batteries;


This is very useful. They're very cheap to replace, and you can get ones with much larger capacities than the supplied ones.

I bought a Binatone (Binaphone, so they say..) from Aldi, only a twin, though, for £30. It's good enough for me, in that it's easy to set up and use, has reasonable features, and the sound quality is fine. It's got the supplied AAA batteries in it, which're OK, giving 10 hours talk, 100 hours standby, so they say. Job's a good 'un.
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - JH
I'd agree, Panasonic. There's not many around without answerphones though. Ours stays switched off. 1571 works and other phones in the house can still be answered without the DECT base station thinking you haven't picked up one of it's phones so it will play the "we're out" message. 1571 messages are easier to delete when mil waits to the end of the message and THEN puts her phone down :-(

Siemens are good too but tend to be pricey.

JH
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - Martin Devon
PANASONIC KX-TG 8222 TWIN CORDLESS PHONE.

I saved this to bookmarks yonks ago as I posed the same Q. Got to be a year or more ago now. Now have a need to do it. Doesn't seem anything any better anywhere.

Only an Opinion.

MD
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - Stuartli
BT does charge for BT Answer 1571 if you use another phone company for calls. See:

tinyurl.com/melhzp
Recommend a good home digital cordless phone - Nsar
Thanks everyone for your tips

Buying a battery from USA - The Melting Snowman
I need a battery for an old torch (Panasonic LCR6V3.4P) and have located a company in the USA that sell them. How do I go about buying it? I assume there will be some sort of import tax to pay? Also will a battery will probably cause problems at the airport security?
Any advice would be appreciated.

TMS
Buying a battery from USA - Martin Devon
Buy a new torch!
Buying a battery from USA - bell boy
checking the spec of the usa battery
3.4 amp per hour 6 volt,i think this is wrong
i would think a straight forward alarm type battery should suffice?
tinyurl.com/kpcj8y
Buying a battery from USA - FotheringtonThomas
Isn't there an equivalent that's available here, e.g. something like a Yuasa NP2.8-6? You could bung off a swift e-mail to hardwarexpress, or someone, to find out. I wouldn't worry about tax or problems, that's up to the vendor to say.
Buying a battery from USA - The Melting Snowman
This is what I need:

tinyurl.com/nsn74x
Buying a battery from USA - FotheringtonThomas
tinyurl.com/mpdwvq
Buying a battery from USA - bell boy
well done FT
Buying a battery from USA - The Melting Snowman
Ah yes, that's more like it. Thanks very much.
best way to strip metal garage door - audiA6tdi
whats the best way to strip a garage door thats had 10 coats or so of paint on it. can i take it back to bare metal and start again? can i use a heat gun? or some liquid or rub down.

thanks
best way to strip metal garage door - Clk Sec
Assuming the paintwork is in reasonable condition - not peeling or badly chipped etc, the easiest option, by far, would be to rub it down. If not, careful use of a hot air gun, in preference to paint stripper, might be your best bet.

Speaking as an amateur, of course.

Clk Sec
best way to strip metal garage door - pmh3
If it is old enough to have had 10 coats of paint, is it really worth doing?

Pivot points worn, springs ready to fracture , cable balance mechanism knackered, - spare parts expensive or impossible to source.

Cost of paint, time?

If you staying in the house for 5 years or more, a new door, powder coated, may be a cost effective option?

best way to strip metal garage door - mjm
I used a heat gun on ours. We now have a ripple effect door where the steel panels warped.. The best results I obtained were with Nitromoors paint stripper and a combination of hand scrapers and drill driven wire brushes.
I went overboard rinsing the paint stripper out from the nooks and crannies to ensure that it wouldn't creep back out onto the new paint.
best way to strip metal garage door - bell boy
surely if its had 10 coats of paint on it the british museum would be interested in it as a trophy of the 20th century?
plus they are made of tin so i would cost up a new one /versus struggling to strip this /one as already said
best way to strip metal garage door - perro
One of my customers when I lived? in Hastings used to specialise in painting wood so that it would look like wood would, he had painted his own metal garage door and it looked even more like wood would than real wood would.
best way to strip metal garage door - FotheringtonThomas
painting wood so that it would look like wood would


That's the thing.
best way to strip metal garage door - audiA6tdi
If it is old enough to have had 10 coats of paint is it really
worth doing?


cant really afford a new door at the moment!
best way to strip metal garage door - perro
If you really, really must strip it audi, then Nitro (mors) is your best bet, its going to make a mess though but at least its outside - follow the instructions carefully!
best way to strip metal garage door - FotheringtonThomas
If the paint's sound, paint over it. If it needs spot repairs, spot repair it. If you really want to strip it, use paint stripper (there's a technique), or get it sand blasted (then paint it quick!). I've also seen a garage door "grained" - it covers a multitude of sins, and looks good.
best way to strip metal garage door - Mapmaker
Given that a hot air gun won't work, just sand it where it needs it until you have smoothed off the edges, and paint it. The paint stripper will cost you a fortune and will take forever. And it stinks. And it doesn't work when the weather is dry as it dries out too quickly. It doesn't really work out of doors as it tends to be too breezy so it evaporates.

You may well find that if it is galvanised the paint comes off in sheets anyway.

Edited by Mapmaker on 30/07/2009 at 11:27

best way to strip metal garage door - Altea Ego
Pressure washer. If you have a small break in the paint to the base metal (make one woith a knife) the pressure washer whill get under it and remove it
best way to strip metal garage door - jbif
whats the best way to strip a garage door >>


Forget all that hard work. This is far easier:

www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?item=1

best way to strip metal garage door - Mapmaker
jbif: of all the most peculiar links you have ever posted, that is excellent.
best way to strip metal garage door - jbif
jbif: of all the most peculiar links you have ever posted that is excellent. >> >>


Thank you, cartographer.

This is for
Lud : www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?mode=list&typ...g
drbe : www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?item=89&type=a
perro [wood] : www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?mode=list&typ...e
Lewis : www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?item=87&type=a and
www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?item=3&type=a
L'escargot [JCB] and Stelios [jet] : www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?mode=list&typ...y

Edited by jbif on 30/07/2009 at 14:08

best way to strip metal garage door - perro
I like the country mansion one, but it looks like its got ten coats of paint that needs stripping .... :-D
best way to strip metal garage door - drbe
>> drbe : www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?item=89&type=a
>>


Well, I have a Morris Minor convertible sitting in my garage, not a tuk tuk!

Edited by drbe on 31/07/2009 at 18:29

best way to strip metal garage door - perro
>>> Forget all that hard work. This is far easier:

www.style-your-garage.com/motive.php?item=1 <<<

How blimming amazing! I didn't cotton on at first :-)
best way to strip metal garage door - Stuartli
Presumably the same source as for this story and additional photos:

tinyurl.com/ne6g4q


best way to strip metal garage door - jbif
Presumably the same source as for this story and additional photos >>


;-) Stuartli: How could you? I am not Mr X !
Actually the story has been in a number of different news media [copycat effect] over the last few weeks.
best way to strip metal garage door - Stuartli
No, I didn't mean you, rather the source for the various examples...:-)

There will be a website somewhere (I haven't looked for it) that was the source for the Mail and other media outlets' feature.

The pix have also been doing the usual e-mail rounds.
best way to strip metal garage door - legacylad
Amazing. At last, the perfect wedding present for the future Mrs Legacylad.
So how does this scam work then? - JH
An acquaintance is selling his 1996 Toyota based camper van. It currently has no tax or MOT and is in need of welding. He has decided to sell rather than repair.

He has shown me a printed email from someone purporting to be in France, offering the full asking price plus shipping fees. It smells already. The would be buyer thanks him for the photos of the "car" (sic) and says it is just what his son is looking for. He will send a cheque for the full amount plus shipping fee, wait until the cheque clears and then arrange for his shipping agent to collect the car, said shipping agent to be paid by the seller with funds provided for that purpose by the buyer. Hmm.

The buyer has asked for the name the cheque is to made out to and the address to which it is to be sent. Reasonable so far.

Now, this has to be a scam. I don't know what the shipping cost may be but it surely has to be uneceonomic to ship a 13 year old MOT failure which you have not seen to France where the steering wheel will be on the wrong side, not to mention other LHD drive issues. Goodness know what the tax / duty situation is.

So, given that (I understand) "cleared" on a cheque now means "cleared" without this nonsense of "cleared for funds" and so forth, how does this work / what would happen next?

Needles to say my acquaintance is not proceeding with this generous offer!

Thanks,
JH
So how does this scam work then? - Armitage Shanks {p}
It works in that the cheque clears and then bounces a few days later SFAIK. How is a buyer in France going to get a vehicle in that condition to France and at what cost. Too many other questions, all unanswerable and, as you say, a big suspicious smell. Don't go near it!
So how does this scam work then? - geoff1248
Unless you draw cash out as soon as the cheque has cleared and then close the account.
So how does this scam work then? - oldnotbold
Which would be fraud.
So how does this scam work then? - Armitage Shanks {p}
Geoff, in the circumstances you describe the bank could, and probably would, pursue you for the money! As ONB says, this is a variation of the "My late husband was the president of Bongo Bongo land and has $100,000,00 in a bank account and I will give you 10% of this if you will help me transer it" etc etc

Edited by Armitage Shanks {p} on 31/07/2009 at 19:12

So how does this scam work then? - drbe
Which would be fraud.

>>

How and why?

One draws (drawers?) ones money out of ones bank account - fraud, I think not.

Edited by drbe on 31/07/2009 at 19:17

So how does this scam work then? - Armitage Shanks {p}
If the money is in your account but is not yours it is fraud. Recall the cases where people get money paid into their account, a mistake by the bank? They spend it and then have to pay it back - it is not "theirs" and probably neither are "not cleared funds" + WU involvement is no help!

Edited by Armitage Shanks {p} on 31/07/2009 at 19:28

So how does this scam work then? - oldnotbold
The buyer is not in France or any other EU country. He's in Nigeria, very probably. This scam is as old as the internet.
So how does this scam work then? - Stuartli
..and quite often the words Western Union are involved....
So how does this scam work then? - JH
All,
I realise that the "buyer" is unlikely to be in France. He's unlikely to be in Nigeria either, as their comms to the outside world seem to have been cut off (broken under-sea cable tinyurl.com/l7hznv )! I'm aware of the cheque "clearing" loophole but, as I wrote above, I understand that that has been closed and "cleared" now means what it says on the tin. From - tinyurl.com/nfatbt -

"For the first time, after paying in a cheque, you can be sure that at the end of six working days, the money is yours. You are protected from any loss if the cheque subsequently bounces, unless you are a knowing party to a fraud."

So if the cheque is in your account, you wait 6 working days (7 to be safe) - how does the scam work?

JH
So how does this scam work then? - oldnotbold
"you wait 6 working days (7 to be safe) - how does the scam work?"

Because they send you a draft, not a cheque, assuring you that as it's a draft, it's good for immediate cash, which would be true, but the draft is a dud. They send you a £5,000 draft for a £1,000 car, and ask you to pay the £4,000 into a Western Union office. They draw that anywhere in the world. The draft then bounces, and you have no recourse.
So how does this scam work then? - Altea Ego
yes its not a cheque, so its never "cleared" per say, its a fake draft. In legal terms a "false instrument"

In false instrument frauds everyone down the line backs out of the transcation till it reaches the person who cant push it further up the line - You - because the purveyor of the false instrument cant be traced.
So how does this scam work then? - JH
Thanks all. My acquaintance is not daft enough to be taken in and it seems to me that, at some point, the "buyer" will act in a way that differs from his offer. So the idea that a draft is sent instead of a cheque fits with how it must go.

Thanks
JH
Roses don't grow on me ! - 1400ted
The old girl and I have just had our Ruby wedding and have been given, by four different people, 4 mature, dark red, rose bushes in plastic pots.
We would like to re-pot them into terracotta and try and keep them alive and healthy.

Any tips on pruning and care ? The only roses we are familiar with come from the sweety shop in a box !
Any rose enthusiasts out there in BR land ?

Ted
Roses don't grow on me ! - bell boy
they need plenty of water first
root ball must be kept complete
dont put them into a pot too big as they get traumatised

(wifes words all these by the way)
Roses don't grow on me ! - Altea Ego
I have a rose "tree" at the end of of the run of my grape vine. Its tied to a 4 inch fence post. Each year in early december, I cut it back down to the main "trunk" (which is now the thickness of my wrist) and each year it springs up with new suckers from the old cuts. It blooms in early may, and I cut off the flower heads and hips when the leaves fall off, and it flowers consistently through to early november. Its a wierd beast, plentiful flowers but the colours vary from year to year. This year it apears to be peach., last year it was white and the year before pink.
Roses don't grow on me ! - Stuartli
The other half looks after such matters - she prunes back virtually all the old stems and leaves the new shoots for the following year.

The roses are always a picture when the time arrives to see them in all their glory.

Roses are seemingly pretty hardy; one of our front garden rose bushes is at least 50 years old as it was originally in my MiL's garden until 44 years ago.

Same with rhododendrons - prune the areas that have flowered (darker leaves IIRC) and leave the rest for the following year (making sure that the work is neat and tidy). Result is masses of blooms.

Edited by Stuartli on 01/08/2009 at 00:57

Roses don't grow on me ! - ifithelps
...Roses are seemingly pretty hardy....

Agreed, although they can also be prone to disease.

So they need a close eye kept on them, bit like children, really.

I've had blight and the odd infestation by something or other.

Quick spray with some stuff from the garden centre and they're good as new.

Pretty hardy, as you say.

Excellent advice from the various posters on pruning - I've never had the courage to do it 'hard' enough.
Roses don't grow on me ! - Stuartli
Green fly have fortunately been the only "problem" over the years with the roses - as you say a quick spray with a proprietary product (such as Bug Clear Ultra) does the job.

It also gets rid of mildew fungus which affects one or two of the broad leaved plants but not, surprisingly, the roses...:-)

Edited by Stuartli on 01/08/2009 at 09:42

Roses don't grow on me ! - Altea Ego
My rose tree is at the end of the grap evine run to prevent diseases on the vine. The tow in harness look after each other.
Roses don't grow on me ! - 1400ted
Many thanks ,all, for your 'rosy ' advice...it's all written down now.
Ifithelps...hope your blight and infestation isn't too bad.......remind me never to come to your house for a pot of tea and a gypsy cream until you've seen a doctor ! :-)

Ted
Roses don't grow on me ! - henry k
Do not forget to Tonk them !
Its like an Italian tune up :-)

www.gardendirect.co.uk/chempak-rose-food-800gm-p-1...2
Plenty of around but the name is rarely used. I get mine from Wilkos cos its much cheaper than brands like Toprose.
Asbestos in old cooker - leonora
A few weeks ago I posted a query re the cleaning of a 46 year old electric cooker owned by my father-in-law. No-one was happy to professionally clean this, so we have freshened up the exterior of the cooker ourselves and decided that it would remain in the kitchen for purely decorative (?!) purposes whilst my son uses the hob part and a microwave. My father-in-law has now merrily stated that the rope-like sealing on one of the oven doors is asbestos! I'm fairly sure I know the answer to this question but - please would someone let me know if we should now export the item to the dump ASAP or whether it is safe to leave in an unused condition so long as the door is not opened. Needless to say f-i-l continues to insist the cooker is going nowhere. Many thanks for your responses.


Asbestos in old cooker - henry k
>>My father-in-law has now merrily stated that the rope-like sealing on one of the oven doors is asbestos.
Our old cooker had the same sealant. You will possibly find it beween the lining panels of the oven especially the roof.
IIRC it was white asbestos and I am still here :-)
Asbestos in old cooker - FotheringtonThomas
If it's a rope-like seal, it could be asbestos, or it could be glass fibre. It's no big deal. If you're worried, annoint it with cooking oil which will gum it all up. My range has asbestos seals around the covers. I am not worried about it. Doesn't the oven work? That seems a shame.
Asbestos in old cooker - leonora
Yes, it is like a rope. I'm not sure whether the oven works but, in any case, the hinge fitting on the internal glass door has disintegrated so it is not really usable and it is rather filthy with at least a decade of burnt on grime. On a serious note, my mother-in-law (a non-smoker in a non-smoking household) did die of a heart condition which was exacerbated by lung cancer - or vice versa. Either way I know lung cancer is caused by asbestos.
Asbestos in old cooker - FotheringtonThomas
Either way I know lung cancer is caused by asbestos.


It's far more frequently caused by smoking, even "secondary smoking" in a few cases, however there are a number of causes. The type caused by exposure to asbestos is "mesothelioma".
Asbestos in old cooker - captain chaos
What's the type caused by exposure to diesel fumes called? ;-)
not the greatest offer ever -can you beat it ?? - wotspur

Today, wasn't 1st APril, so when upon needing some shaving foam, I visited a well known DRUG STORE,In Feltham, and found the item required.

It was priced at 1.76 per canister or in HIGHLIGHTED SPECIAL OFFER, 2 for £3.99,

I asked the assistant -she responded with "what's the problem " thats the education for you, I even asked at the desk to check the price -the deputy manager confirmed the price , ho hum and in a recession !!!!!
not the greatest offer ever -can you beat it ?? - henry k
I have seen similar pricings in a certain very large supermarket chain.
Larger multi packs were much more expensive when the cost per item was calculated.
Same sort of blank response. I shrug my shoulders and take the cheapest option.
Without scanning the £ 1.76 barcode twice so the compoota can "calcluate " it there is very little chance of any bottom line figure being obtained away from the tills.
In some places have seen staff use a calculator to add two simpler figures than that.
p.s. I hear there is a fantastic deal when you trade in your old car :-(
not the greatest offer ever -can you beat it ?? - ifithelps
It may be the shaving foam is more than £2 in some branches of the drugs store, so two for £3.99 then makes sense.

Or it could be deliberate - some of the larger packs in the supermarkets cost more per gramme than the smaller ones.

Picking up some lager for the caravan on Friday - it likes a drink same as me - I noticed two packs of eight bottles were cheaper than a single pack of 16 bottles of the same beer.



not the greatest offer ever -can you beat it ?? - Armitage Shanks {p}
Equally, some offers are beyond understanding! Tesco have pineapples @ £1.89 each and 2 for £2. I still see people walking out with just 1. At that price 2 is a good deal even if one goes off in the fridge! If pineapples are £1 how can one grapefruit be 45p?
not the greatest offer ever -can you beat it ?? - Altea Ego
If pineapples are £1
how can one grapefruit be 45p?


because they are different?
not the greatest offer ever -can you beat it ?? - Armitage Shanks {p}
Yes - my ill expressed point was that a pineapple is bulky and heavy and comes from Costa Rica or Hawaii and a grapefruit is compact and light(ish) and comes from Israel or South Africa. Taking the size/weght/distance moved into account a grapefruit seems V expensive relative to a pineapple.

Edited by Armitage Shanks {p} on 02/08/2009 at 14:42

not the greatest offer ever -can you beat it ?? - Dynamic Dave
Tesco have pineapples @ £1.89 each and 2 for £2. I still see people walking out with just 1. At that price 2 is a good deal even if one goes off in the fridge!


If you bought the 2, and one went off in the fridge, it would cost you 11p more than buying just the one.